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CID1990 wrote: CNN, MSNBC, and the others ALL "verified" this email with trusted sources in the IC. Why won't they out these "sources" who gave them intentionally false info?

They outed that project veritas guy. So why don't they out these sources? (Because Democracy Dies In Darkness Dontchaknow
The emails weren't leaked from the intelligence community. CNN cited "congressional investigators." These weren't classified documents. They weren't obtained by the intelligence community, or from "unmasking."

Congressional investigations leaks like a sieve. I'm sure you were complaining about information leaking out of the Benghazi investigation as well, though. :lol:
Try to pay attention

I didn't say they were classified.

I said that these outlets said that they all independently verified the email.

Why don't these outlets declare these obviously false sources?

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And BTW- they most certainly ARE in the IC.


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You said their sources were in the intelligence community. :dunce:

And, I'd love it if they burned their sources since they fucked them. It's not like they need to keep their trust for future stories... because, they better not use them again in future stories.

Since you want me to hazard a guess so bad - I would say they don't want to burn their sources so that future sources don't think they'd be outed. But, I don't fucking know.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:You said their sources were in the intelligence community. :dunce:

And, I'd love it if they burned their sources since they **** them. It's not like they need to keep their trust for future stories... because, they better not use them again in future stories. But, I would guess they don't want to burn their sources so that future sources don't think they'd be outed.
Just because the source is in the IC doesn't mean the info is classified, Jelly

I'm beginning to see why this is such a long thread... you are the perfect target of these media outlets

Glenn Greenwald is correct- someone was shilling this to multiple outlets at once and all of those outlets were "independently" verifiying it (hint: they weren't)

Greenwald nails it- either Democratic members of the House Intel Committee (that's part of what we consider the IC) or their staffers

THAT'S why your trusted sources like CNN won't burn them. Because this self inflicted wound is 106.93% why people don't trust these media outlets


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House Intel Committee is oversight.
The Intelligence Community is made up of 17 elements that each focus on a different aspect of our common mission.
Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence and Security Command
Central Intelligence Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy Intelligence and Counterintelligence
Dept. of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis
Dept. of State Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Agency
National Security Agency
Office of Naval Intelligence
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
US Coast Guard Intelligence
https://www.intelligence.gov/how-the-ic-works


All under the executive branch. None of the congressional committees are part of the intelligence community.






At least CNN owned their fuck up. :dunce:

This kind of self-inflicted wound is why I can't trust you. :ohno:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Image


House Intel Committee is oversight.
The Intelligence Community is made up of 17 elements that each focus on a different aspect of our common mission.
Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence and Security Command
Central Intelligence Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy Intelligence and Counterintelligence
Dept. of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis
Dept. of State Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Agency
National Security Agency
Office of Naval Intelligence
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
US Coast Guard Intelligence
https://www.intelligence.gov/how-the-ic-works


All under the executive branch. None of the congressional committees are part of the intelligence community.






At least CNN owned their **** up. :dunce:

This self-inflicted wound is why I can't trust you. :ohno:
I see. I'll have to remind all of my friends that the Congressional committee isn't part of the IC

"Sorry, Congressman, you can't have that report... you aren't part of the IC"

Actually I'm going to allow you a little butthurt here, Jelly - you've earned it


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And the Armed Services Committee is part of our armed services. :rofl: :dunce:

Keep digging.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:And the Armed Services Committee is part of our armed services. :rofl: :dunce:

Keep digging.
When you have a ginormous monument of a thread about something you really don't sort of kinda don't care about, you have to be more creative when you deflect, Jelly

But while we are on the subject, anyone who has lawful access to info inside the IC is technically a part of the IC whether or not they are an actual federal agency - especially the committees - because they have the de facto ability to green light/red light

No amount of deflection is going to save this digital abortion from the ash heap of CS history
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LOL at jelly still trying to spin this into a positive for the leftists. :rofl:
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SDHornet wrote:LOL at jelly still trying to spin this into a positive for the leftists. :rofl:
He isn't spinning - he's deflecting. Since the latest news spew he's posted about two things - Judge Pizzano and desperately seeking a win with whether or not the HIC is a part of the IC or not. Because we all know how crucial that is to the case
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SDHornet wrote:LOL at jelly still trying to spin this into a positive for the leftists. :rofl:
What ever happened to your story about Comey leaking classified info to the press? How's that case progressing?
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I’m still waiting to hear why CNN and others won’t reveal their sources.

How can any of these outlets be trusted to be practicing actual journalism if they don’t divulge these intentionally fraudulent sources?
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SeaGriz posted the Greenwald article on Facebook and I got called a Jill Stein Toadie by Dback! :D
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kalm wrote:SeaGriz posted the Greenwald article on Facebook and I got called a Jill Stein Toadie by Dback! :D
I wonder if we're going to move The Intercept into the "trusted news source" slot that CNN used to occupy?


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Well, The Intercept has no qualms about burning sources.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, The Intercept has no qualms about burning sources.
Just FYI.... by the way....

A source that gives you intentionally falsified information is not a source (and therefore doesn't need protection)

Just want to make sure we're on the same semantic page here -

I'm still waiting to see why CNN, et al don't believe in transparency when it comes to sham "sources".... unless they're the abortion clinic video guy, apparently
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SDHornet wrote:LOL at jelly still trying to spin this into a positive for the leftists. :rofl:
What ever happened to your story about Comey leaking classified info to the press? How's that case progressing?
Link?

BTW the MSM has been too busy pimping false Russian collusion stories, they really haven't paid attention to much else...but of course you know that already since you run on here and quote multi paragraph articles from them. :rofl:
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CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, The Intercept has no qualms about burning sources.
Just FYI.... by the way....

A source that gives you intentionally falsified information is not a source (and therefore doesn't need protection)

Just want to make sure we're on the same semantic page here -

I'm still waiting to see why CNN, et al don't believe in transparency when it comes to sham "sources".... unless they're the abortion clinic video guy, apparently
This...it's really not that hard to understand.
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SDHornet wrote: Link?
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... C#p1135259

you run on here and quote multi paragraph articles from them. :rofl:
Multi paragraph articles!!??? :shock: Unbelievable!!
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This thread is going to need its own search engine. It’s such fertile ground!
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Is this investigation even a serious thing any more? :coffee:

Wife of demoted DOJ official worked for firm behind anti-Trump dossier
A senior Justice Department official demoted last week for concealing his meetings with the men behind the anti-Trump “dossier” had even closer ties to Fusion GPS, the firm responsible for the incendiary document, than have been disclosed, Fox News has confirmed: The official’s wife worked for Fusion GPS during the 2016 election.

Contacted by Fox News, investigators for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) confirmed that Nellie H. Ohr, wife of the demoted official, Bruce G. Ohr, worked for the opposition research firm last year. The precise nature of Mrs. Ohr’s duties – including whether she worked on the dossier – remains unclear but a review of her published works available online reveals Mrs. Ohr has written extensively on Russia-related subjects. HPSCI staff confirmed to Fox News that she was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016.

Fusion GPS has attracted scrutiny because Republican lawmakers have spent the better part of this year investigating whether the dossier, which was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, served as the basis for the Justice Department and the FBI to obtain FISA surveillance last year on a Trump campaign adviser named Carter Page.

“The House Intelligence Committee,” Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told Fox News in a statement on Monday, “is looking into all facets of the connections between the Department of Justice and Fusion GPS, including Mr. Ohr.”

Until Dec. 6, when Fox News began making inquiries about him, Bruce Ohr held two titles at DOJ. He was, and remains, director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force; but his other job was far more senior. Mr. Ohr held the rank of associate deputy attorney general, a post that gave him an office four doors down from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The day before Fox News reported that Mr. Ohr held his secret meetings last year with the founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, and with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who compiled the dossier, the Justice Department stripped Ohr of his deputy title and ousted him from his fourth floor office at the building that DOJ insiders call “Main Justice.”

The Department of Justice has provided no public explanation for Ohr’s demotion. Officials inside the Department have told Fox News his wearing of two hats was “unusual,” but also confirm Ohr had withheld his contacts with the Fusion GPS men from colleagues at the DOJ.
Really, just call it a day fellas... :dunce:
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CID1990 wrote: Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over
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This thread is Jelly’s psychological prop. It’s how he gets through life from day to day.
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Ivytalk wrote:This thread is Jelly’s psychological prop. It’s how he gets through life from day to day.
It reads like an AGS game thread. Mueller has won some games against an OVC SoS. The level of competition gets tough from here on out. Team Trump is like SHSU...they can score at will on offense but their defense is fairly vanilla and gives up some big plays. Perhaps a paper tiger who gets exposed when they get popped in the face?

I think it boils down to T.O.P. and turnovers.

Anyone see a line yet on this game?
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