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∞∞∞ wrote:^^^It's pretty amazing how time and time again, there's a connection back to the Russian government within the people in this administration...and how time and time they forgot to disclose it.
I actually find it refreshing and encouraging that you (and others) are so in tune to official quibbling, forgetfulness and denial.

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The 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back.


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Donald Jr. and Wikileaks were sending messages in October 2016.

Emails were sent to at least Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Brad Parscale, Kushner, and Hope Hicks informing them about the messages
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/545738/

Seems Trump Sr. may have gotten word as well...

Trump Sr. tweeted about Wikileaks latest Podesta emails 15 minutes after Assange asked Trump Jr. to
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President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about his post-election contacts with Russia's ambassador to the United States — and is now cooperating with a probe into links between the Trump campaign and Russia.
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The guys we knew a year ago were guilty of doing bad stuff (Manafort and Flynn) have both now been indicted. From here we'll see what Mueller has as he's running out of low hanging fruit to indict.
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GannonFan wrote:The guys we knew a year ago were guilty of doing bad stuff (Manafort and Flynn) have both now been indicted. From here we'll see what Mueller has as he's running out of low hanging fruit to indict.
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If Flynn was going to talk about quid pro quo collusion, he wouldn’t be pleading guilty to a process crime. He’d be charged with an espionage related statute.

Mueller had certainly better hope he has something more than a Logan violation or this is going to be a major faceplant.
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houndawg wrote:
GannonFan wrote:The guys we knew a year ago were guilty of doing bad stuff (Manafort and Flynn) have both now been indicted. From here we'll see what Mueller has as he's running out of low hanging fruit to indict.
I predict rampant sphincter-lock in the White House
Certainly young Mr. Kushner will be twitching a bit.
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CID1990 wrote:If Flynn was going to talk about quid pro quo collusion, he wouldn’t be pleading guilty to a process crime. He’d be charged with an espionage related statute.

Mueller had certainly better hope he has something more than a Logan violation or this is going to be a major faceplant.

Harmless coincidences, nothing to see here. :coffee:

But this could take years to fully investigate 8-)
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houndawg wrote:
I predict rampant sphincter-lock in the White House
Certainly young Mr. Kushner will be twitching a bit.
Give him a choice of prison time or four tours in Afghanistan as an 11B. :coffee:
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So Brian Ross fucked up and caused the Dow to drop 350 points in just minutes. Then, the retraction.
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I wonder what the reaction would have been on here if David Axelrod was arrested and charged with 12 felonies and Susan Rice pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents during Obama's presidency. :rofl:

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houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Certainly young Mr. Kushner will be twitching a bit.
Give him a choice of prison time or four tours in Afghanistan as an 11B. :coffee:
Isn’t there no more 11B? All changed to 11M?
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I like this guy. I like what he is saying, although it won't ever happen.
The end game is the removal of Trump, either by impeachment or by publicly discrediting him and making his reelection politically impossible.

Here’s what I’d be tempted to do if I were President Trump: I’d direct the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate Iran’s efforts to acquire nuclear weapons, including any Obama-administration collusion in that enterprise
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Skjellyfetti wrote:I wonder what the reaction would have been on here if David Axelrod was arrested and charged with 12 felonies and Susan Rice pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents during Obama's presidency. :rofl:

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Depends on where the goal line was as compared to where the drive stalled. :coffee:
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Well, the thread started with Flynn being fired.

And, people like baldy (don't remember what you were saying) toeing the company line with: Flynn was fired for being dishonest to Pence! He did nothing wrong!

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I’m starting to detect some bitterness creeping into this otherwise hopeful thread
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:In addition to Mueller being close friends with the star witness, 3 of the 5 investigators that Mueller has hired are major donks campaign contributors. That right there aught to to send up all kinds of red flags..
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/12/poli ... index.html
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Who cares? I get why you do but people can be more than their political affiliation.
Top Mueller investigator fired over pro Hillary, anti Trump texts..
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron ... le/2642387
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'I knew nothing about meetings with the Russians. I only know that Flynn was lying about his meetings with the Russians.'

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WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump changed his story Saturday on why he fired Michael Flynn as his national security adviser, now suggesting he knew at the time that Flynn had lied to the FBI as well as to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians during the presidential transition.

That was a turnabout from his initial explanations that Flynn had to go because he hadn’t been straight with Pence about those contacts. Lying to the FBI is a crime, and one that Flynn acknowledged Friday in pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with the special counsel’s Russia investigation.

Trump’s tweet: “I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Amid questions raised by the tweet, Trump associates tried to put distance Saturday evening between the president himself and the tweet. One person familiar with the situation said the tweet was actually crafted by John Dowd, one of the president’s personal attorneys. Dowd declined to comment when reached by the Associated Press on Saturday night.

In another email wrinkle in the investigation into Trump’s ties to Russia, the New York Times reported Saturday that emails among top Trump transition officials suggested that Flynn was in close contact with other senior members of the transition team before and after he spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. A Dec. 29 email from K.T. McFarland, a transition adviser to Trump, suggested that Russian sanctions announced by the Obama administration had been aimed at discrediting Trump’s victory.

She wrote the sanctions could also make it more difficult for Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by the Times. A White House attorney told the newspaper McFarland only meant that Democrats were portraying it that way.

It’s unclear why Trump would cite lying to the FBI as a reason for firing Flynn. Doing so suggests the president knew at the time that Flynn had done something that is against the law, and therefore the investigation could not be as frivolous as he’s been portraying.

It’s also unclear how he would know that, if information about Russian contacts had not reached him, as he has been implying in his own defense.
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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Give him a choice of prison time or four tours in Afghanistan as an 11B. :coffee:
Isn’t there no more 11B? All changed to 11M?
Don't know...I know they changed my MOS from the 68 series to the 15 series.
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kalm wrote:'I knew nothing about meetings with the Russians. I only know that Flynn was lying about his meetings with the Russians.'

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WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump changed his story Saturday on why he fired Michael Flynn as his national security adviser, now suggesting he knew at the time that Flynn had lied to the FBI as well as to Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Russians during the presidential transition.

That was a turnabout from his initial explanations that Flynn had to go because he hadn’t been straight with Pence about those contacts. Lying to the FBI is a crime, and one that Flynn acknowledged Friday in pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with the special counsel’s Russia investigation.

Trump’s tweet: “I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Amid questions raised by the tweet, Trump associates tried to put distance Saturday evening between the president himself and the tweet. One person familiar with the situation said the tweet was actually crafted by John Dowd, one of the president’s personal attorneys. Dowd declined to comment when reached by the Associated Press on Saturday night.

In another email wrinkle in the investigation into Trump’s ties to Russia, the New York Times reported Saturday that emails among top Trump transition officials suggested that Flynn was in close contact with other senior members of the transition team before and after he spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. A Dec. 29 email from K.T. McFarland, a transition adviser to Trump, suggested that Russian sanctions announced by the Obama administration had been aimed at discrediting Trump’s victory.

She wrote the sanctions could also make it more difficult for Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by the Times. A White House attorney told the newspaper McFarland only meant that Democrats were portraying it that way.

It’s unclear why Trump would cite lying to the FBI as a reason for firing Flynn. Doing so suggests the president knew at the time that Flynn had done something that is against the law, and therefore the investigation could not be as frivolous as he’s been portraying.

It’s also unclear how he would know that, if information about Russian contacts had not reached him, as he has been implying in his own defense.
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