The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

[89Hen]

The one above the Oreo that looks like its top was bitten off: is that supposed to be JFK? Tha math works.

There's also a hole in 16.

[JohnStOnge]

The Trump RCP politics Job Approval average is at -18.0 right now (38.5 vs. 56.5) right now but I think it's really worse than that. The average is considering 10 polls. 5 were completed during July 12 through 18 and the other 5 were completed August 1 and 2. If you just take the average of the ones completed August 1 and 2 he's at -21.8 (36.8 vs. 58.6).

[JohnStOnge]

Miller owns Acosta..

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No he didn't. What he did was provide another instance in which a member of the Trump Administration embarrassed the United States by engaging in extremely unprofessional behavior.

I don't think Acosta acted professionally either in that he went off into emotion rather than substance and repeatedly interrupted (as did Miller). But he at least refrained from direct personal insults. The official representative of the United States government did not.

Of the two the reporter came off as more reasoned and professional.

[BDKJMU]

WV donk gov switches to conk at huge Trump rally in WV, becoming the 34 conk gov, and giving conks full control of 26 states (both houses & gov), compared to only 6 that donks have full control of..

Yesterday afternoon I put it on FNC and they're covering the Trump rally. I switch over to CNN twice and its Russia! Russia!

[CID1990]

Miller owns Acosta..

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No he didn't. What he did was provide another instance in which a member of the Trump Administration embarrassed the United States by engaging in extremely unprofessional behavior.

I don't think Acosta acted professionally either in that he went off into emotion rather than substance and repeatedly interrupted (as did Miller). But he at least refrained from direct personal insults. The official representative of the United States government did not.

Of the two the reporter came off as more reasoned and professional.

It was a two way shit show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

[kalm]

No he didn't. What he did was provide another instance in which a member of the Trump Administration embarrassed the United States by engaging in extremely unprofessional behavior.

I don't think Acosta acted professionally either in that he went off into emotion rather than substance and repeatedly interrupted (as did Miller). But he at least refrained from direct personal insults. The official representative of the United States government did not.

Of the two the reporter came off as more reasoned and professional.

It was a two way shit show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Yes, we should consider ability to contribute especially considering our level of public assistance offered.

1. Language requirements are not racist.

2. That's an ideal, not a constitutional requirement. Take care of our own first and hire within.

3. I don't care all that much what other countries do.

Not arguing with you, just my take.

[houndawg]

No he didn't. What he did was provide another instance in which a member of the Trump Administration embarrassed the United States by engaging in extremely unprofessional behavior.

I don't think Acosta acted professionally either in that he went off into emotion rather than substance and repeatedly interrupted (as did Miller). But he at least refrained from direct personal insults. The official representative of the United States government did not.

Of the two the reporter came off as more reasoned and professional.

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Switzerland has a language requirement, at least they did when I was looking into right of return, but that was decades ago

[Ivytalk]

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Switzerland has a language requirement, at least they did when I was looking into right of return, but that was decades ago

You want to return....to Switzerland?

Poundpup's forebears came from the land of bank secrecy and pathological neutrality?

[CID1990]

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Switzerland has a language requirement, at least they did when I was looking into right of return, but that was decades ago

So does Australia

So does France

In fact, Australia has a skills requirement. A friend of mine who is a chief constable with the Victoria Police one tried to convince me to immigrate there- because I had a degree and years of LE experience, I qualified


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[CID1990]

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Yes, we should consider ability to contribute especially considering our level of public assistance offered.

1. Language requirements are not racist.

2. That's an ideal, not a constitutional requirement. Take care of our own first and hire within.

3. I don't care all that much what other countries do.

Not arguing with you, just my take.

That's my point-

There was no substance to that press conference, but it has been a "news item" for a couple days, with both side claiming some kind of verbal victory

I don't side with the reporter because he was just playing to the cameras and concern trolling. He checked two of the three meaningless boxes I listed above, and the only one he left alone was comparing the US to other countries.... and he would if he could

Even if this bill passed, the US would still have by far the most generous and welcoming immigration system in the world. But of course the suggestion is causing all this angst

Not because the bill


Because Trump


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[BDKJMU]

Toyota, Mazda to build $1.6B, 4,000-job U.S. automotive assembly plant
Toyota Motor is investing some $10 billion in the United States over the next five years, including a new headquarters in Texas and a revamped manufacturing facility in Kentucky.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/ca ... 538744001/

[BDKJMU]

Dow closed above 22k for the 1st time 2 days ago. Today was 8th straight record close.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/us-stoc ... s-fed.html

[BDKJMU]

-209k jobs added July.
-349k more employed to a record 153.5 million employed, 3rd straight monthly record.
-U3 fell to 4.3%, lowest since March 01'.
# not in the labor force dropped for 3rd straight month to 94.6 million.
-Avg hourly earnings rose 0.3% m/m, 2.5% y/y.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/us-nonf ... -2017.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-strength

Just like Biden said, its all about that 3 letter word: JOBS..

[Gil Dobie]

No he didn't. What he did was provide another instance in which a member of the Trump Administration embarrassed the United States by engaging in extremely unprofessional behavior.

I don't think Acosta acted professionally either in that he went off into emotion rather than substance and repeatedly interrupted (as did Miller). But he at least refrained from direct personal insults. The official representative of the United States government did not.

Of the two the reporter came off as more reasoned and professional.

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Well my wife lost her skilled co-worker this week as his visa was denied. Company, top 5 in IT, won't allow him to continue working. Now she'll get a lot of over-time while they find and train another person to take his job, or by chance, he get's a visa.

[CID1990]

It was a two way **** show - the reporter was doing nothing but virtue signaling and posturing. The spox was doing a little Kabuki theater of his own.

I've read this bill. It has zero chance of passing (because it reduces a benefit for US citizens) but the immediate relative (IR) visas remain unchanged. It eliminates US citizens being able to petition for their grown children and their siblings (and ALL of THEIR spouses and children). Under the current system, one immigrant from a "developing" country eventually translates into anywhere from 10-20 in subsequent immigration. Under the proposed bill, that number would reduce to around 5-6. The shortfall would be substituted by skilled immigrants (in theory - I don't know how many of those are clamoring to get in, but we do have immigrant visa classes that are limited to skilled or people with extraordinary abilities that are WAY overshadowed by the non-immediate relative classes)

This debate boils down to whether or not we should take into account ability to contribute or not. That's it.

Whenever our government tries a policy change like this (and not just when a Trump is in office) the usual suspects come out of the woodwork and start howling about three things:

1. Its racist (Brits and Aussies speak English and that's about it)

2. It goes against the idea of America being a place where anybody can come to to improve their lives

3. Other developed countries don't have skill and language requirements

^^^^one of these is not being applied in this case. Want to guess which one, and why?

Well my wife lost her skilled co-worker this week as his visa was denied. Company, top 5 in IT, won't allow him to continue working. Now she'll get a lot of over-time while they find and train another person to take his job, or by chance, he get's a visa.

Her coworker's visa is a different issue- it is a non-immigrant visa. The proposed bill in this case covers immigrant visas, which are mostly family-based.

A shift to a skills or merit based immigration system would ultimately benefit people like your wife's colleague down the road.

However, the whole idea behind the H class NIV is that companies cannot find workers to fill those jobs at all. If they are going to train up a replacement who is an American then that pretty much defeats the idea that they absolutely had to hire someone from India

(I guessed India.... was I right?)

[houndawg]

Switzerland has a language requirement, at least they did when I was looking into right of return, but that was decades ago

You want to return....to Switzerland?

Poundpup's forebears came from the land of bank secrecy and pathological neutrality?

The Swiss were famous mercenaries before turning to banking. And there was a reason the Germans left them alone.

[Gil Dobie]

Well my wife lost her skilled co-worker this week as his visa was denied. Company, top 5 in IT, won't allow him to continue working. Now she'll get a lot of over-time while they find and train another person to take his job, or by chance, he get's a visa.

Her coworker's visa is a different issue- it is a non-immigrant visa. The proposed bill in this case covers immigrant visas, which are mostly family-based.

A shift to a skills or merit based immigration system would ultimately benefit people like your wife's colleague down the road.

However, the whole idea behind the H class NIV is that companies cannot find workers to fill those jobs at all. If they are going to train up a replacement who is an American then that pretty much defeats the idea that they absolutely had to hire someone from India

(I guessed India.... was I right?)

Good info CID, and yes, he's from India. Shouldn't be too hard to find an American that takes 2 hours off in the morning to bring their kids to school and 2 hours off in the afternoon to pick them up. He's skilled, but kind of a slacker, but he did enough to keep my wife from working too much overtime.

[houndawg]

Dow closed above 22k for the 1st time 2 days ago. Today was 8th straight record close.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/us-stoc ... s-fed.html

Thanks Obama.

[BDKJMU]

Corporate America Is Having Its Best Earnings Season in 13 Years

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... since-2004

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Bruce Arians is the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals...............god the left is stupid

[BDKJMU]

THE BOOM IS BOOMING AND HOME DEPOT IS SETTING RECORDS

ATLANTA (AP) -- Americans are plowing money into their homes at an astonishing rate, new, used and even those not yet built, creating for Home Depot a frenzy of loyal customers.

The world's biggest home improvement retailer rang up its highest quarterly sales, and richest earnings in the company's history, and it boosted its outlook for the year Tuesday.

Revenue for the period ended July increased to $28.11 billion from $26.47 billion, topping the $27.84 billion that analysts polled by Zacks Investment Research forecast.

Sales at stores open at least a year, a key indicator of a retailers' health, increased 6.3 percent. In the U.S., the figure rose 6.6 percent.

In June, Americans signed more contracts to buy homes, snapping a three-month decline in pending sales. That same month, U.S. sales of new homes rose slightly, a sign that more would-be buyers are seeking newly built properties. In May U.S. home prices reached a new high for the sixth straight month.

Home Depot Inc. earned $2.67 billion, or $2.25 per share, in the quarter. A year ago the Atlanta-based company earned $2.44 billion, or $1.97 per share.

Analysts were calling for earnings of $2.21 per share, according to a Zacks survey.

Home Depot now foresees 2017 earnings per share will rise about 13 percent from the prior-year period and sales will climb approximately 5.3 percent. Its previous guidance was for earnings per share growth of about 11 percent and sales growth of approximately 4.6 percent.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 5-06-50-00

[BDKJMU]

"U.S. Oil Drillers Keep Pressure on OPEC With Record Shale Output

Oil output from major U.S. shale plays is poised to reach a fresh record next month, further complicating OPEC’s efforts to support prices.

The gain is being led by the oil-rich Permian basin of Texas and New Mexico, where production has risen steadily over the past two years.."

[BDKJMU]

U.S. retail sales in July hit 7-month high..
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-ret ... 2017-08-15

[Chizzang]

U.S. retail sales in July hit 7-month high..
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-ret ... 2017-08-15

Seattle economy is BOOMING
with 30,000 Amazon Employees and BTW "Amazon" isn't Retail
but I won't tell the genius that wrote the article

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

THIS.......is Trumps fault

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