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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Maybe. But just because you are a supplier of goods or services to Los Pollos Hermanos, it doesn't mean you are involved with the drug cartel.
Of course not.

But, he (and his team) have so many connections. If you have connections to Tuco, Nacho, Vamanos Pest, and your car wash is pulling in way more money than it should... It raises a whole lot more questions. (And, his lawyer is basically Saul Goodman ;) )
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Newt. :lol:
Newt is right.. :nod:
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Robert Mueller expands special counsel office, hires 13 lawyers

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/ ... index.html
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Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
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BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Why? He's doing his job.

Usually, when you bring on more resources it's because the workload has increased and/or more expertise is needed.

Now excuse me, i have 6 resumes to go through today. Resource Management.... :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Why? It's an investigation. If he finds wrongdoing or if he find no wrongdoing that shouldn't matter, the point is to investigate properly.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Why? He's doing his job.

Usually, when you bring on more resources it's because the workload has increased and/or more expertise is needed.

Now excuse me, i have 6 resumes to go through today. Resource Management.... :nod:
When you are given more resources aren't you expected to show results?
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Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
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GannonFan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Why? It's an investigation. If he finds wrongdoing or if he find no wrongdoing that shouldn't matter, the point is to investigate properly.
In the criminal justice world results are usually measured in collars and convictions..Tangible, measuresble results. If there is no convictions, you know a lot of people will be saying, 'all those resources & $$ spent, and not a single conviction', what a waste.'
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Why? He's doing his job.

Usually, when you bring on more resources it's because the workload has increased and/or more expertise is needed.

Now excuse me, i have 6 resumes to go through today. Resource Management.... :nod:
When you are given more resources aren't you expected to show results?
You're always expected to show results. Who are you or I to say what those results should be and when they should be delivered? :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Why? It's an investigation. If he finds wrongdoing or if he find no wrongdoing that shouldn't matter, the point is to investigate properly.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
I didn't say otherwise in regards to Mueller. You just better hope he gets a conviction(s) of somebody tied to Trump or your at the rate it's going by 2018 or 2019 or whenever this is over, several hundred page thread with 1k+ posts by you, is going to be one big laughingstock.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: When you are given more resources aren't you expected to show results?
You're always expected to show results. Who are you or I to say what those results should be and when they should be delivered?:coffee:
Not you or I per se but the gen American public. I think your avg Joe Q Citizen only deals in & best understands measurable results. If there are no convictions Trump could stand up there and say "See, like I told you- one big nothingburger."
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BDKJMU wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
I didn't say otherwise in regards to Mueller. You just better hope he gets a conviction(s) of somebody tied to Trump or your at the rate it's going by 2018 or 2019 or whenever this is over, several hundred page thread with 1k+ posts by you, is going to be one big laughingstock.
To me, any outcome will be a success. :twocents:

Conviction - The system worked and proved that even the POTUS can't protect you.
No Conviction - There wasn't any wrongdoing and we just have a shitty POTUS surrounding himself with people that are shady but aren't criminal.

Of course, Reps and Dems will complain either way.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:

I didn't say otherwise in regards to Mueller. You just better hope he gets a conviction(s) of somebody tied to Trump or your at the rate it's going by 2018 or 2019 or whenever this is over, several hundred page thread with 1k+ posts by you, is going to be one big laughingstock.
To me, any outcome will be a success. :twocents:

Conviction - The system worked and proved that even the POTUS can't protect you.
No Conviction - There wasn't any wrongdoing and we just have a shitty POTUS surrounding himself with people that are shady but aren't criminal.

Of course, Reps and Dems will complain either way.
No conviction (or impeachment and/or resignation) = will be portrayed as one big nothingburger.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: You're always expected to show results. Who are you or I to say what those results should be and when they should be delivered?:coffee:
Not you or I per se but the gen American public. I think your avg Joe Q Citizen only deals in measurable results.
That's true, I can see where you're going with this. I know it's not easy but we have to divorce ourselves from this " My side is always right and the others are evil."
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: To me, any outcome will be a success. :twocents:

Conviction - The system worked and proved that even the POTUS can't protect you.
No Conviction - There wasn't any wrongdoing and we just have a shitty POTUS surrounding himself with people that are shady but aren't criminal.

Of course, Reps and Dems will complain either way.
No conviction (or impeachment and/or resignation) = will be portrayed as one big nothingburger.
Of course b/c our contry is so polarized nobody can be objective.


And when the hell did "nothingburger" become so prevalent? Are we back in the 1990s? If so, I need to a case of Clearly Canadian. :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Not you or I per se but the gen American public. I think your avg Joe Q Citizen only deals in measurable results.
That's true, I can see where you're going with this. I know it's not easy but we have to divorce ourselves from this " My side is always right and the others are evil."
In today's day and age you may as well have said we have to believe in rainbows and unicorns..
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
That's true, I can see where you're going with this. I know it's not easy but we have to divorce ourselves from this " My side is always right and the others are evil."
In today's day and age you may as well have said we have to believe in rainbows and unicorns..
Rainbows exist..we can all agree on that.


Unicorns...don't the NorKors believe in Unicorns? :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
I disagree

I'd pick the same team even if - especially if - I knew criminal wrongdoing was a long shot


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BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
Looks like CYA to me. I see a lot of praise from liberal blogs about what a badazz Mueller is but if this little fishing expedition doesn't turn up any red meat you'll hear complaints that a BushCo McSatanburton minion may have compromised it.
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BDKJMU wrote:Mueller better get some convictions or he is going to look like an absolute fool hiring that many people if he comes away empty handed..
And what will you say if he does get some convictions ..?
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
No conviction (or impeachment and/or resignation) = will be portrayed as one big nothingburger.
Of course b/c our contry is so polarized nobody can be objective.


And when the hell did "nothingburger" become so prevalent? Are we back in the 1990s? If so, I need to a case of Clearly Canadian. :thumb:
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Vidav wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Of course b/c our contry is so polarized nobody can be objective.


And when the hell did "nothingburger" become so prevalent? Are we back in the 1990s? If so, I need to a case of Clearly Canadian. :thumb:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller knows what he's doing and isn't a fool. You and the pouty POTUS need to find a different target. :lol:
I didn't say otherwise in regards to Mueller. You just better hope he gets a conviction(s) of somebody tied to Trump or your at the rate it's going by 2018 or 2019 or whenever this is over, several hundred page thread with 1k+ posts by you, is going to be one big laughingstock.
Dragging the investigation out into a mid-term year helps the Dems.
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