Whats to become of Cal Poly SUU and UC-Davis?

[Wildcat Ryan]

With South Dakota and possibly North Dakota leaving for the Summit League, what will become of the other 3 Great West teams?

Will they bring up some D2 schools to add to the Great West, or will they have no choice but to make the Big Sky a 2 division 12 team League?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

With South Dakota and possibly North Dakota leaving for the Summit League, what will become of the other 3 Great West teams?

Will they bring up some D2 schools to add to the Great West, or will they have no choice but to make the Big Sky a 2 division 12 team League?

Who is they? The Big Sky doesn't have to do anything about this. The Big Sky could do something but I'm pretty sure it is still the BSC's decision if they want to or not.

[Wildcat Ryan]

With South Dakota and possibly North Dakota leaving for the Summit League, what will become of the other 3 Great West teams?

Will they bring up some D2 schools to add to the Great West, or will they have no choice but to make the Big Sky a 2 division 12 team League?

Who is they? The Big Sky doesn't have to do anything about this. The Big Sky could do something but I'm pretty sure it is still the BSC's decision if they want to or not.

Im sorry,

They as in the NCAA You dont think the NCAA would really let the GW be a 3 team only conf do you? Wouldnt you think the NCAA would push the Sky into adding the 3 teams?

[Col Hogan]

I don't think the NCAA has any say in what teams a conference allows in...or what conference a team wants to join...

It's none of the NCAAs business if a three team conference exists...except when it comes to auto-bids....stuff like that...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I don't think the NCAA has any say in what teams a conference allows in...or what conference a team wants to join...

It's none of the NCAAs business if a three team conference exists...except when it comes to auto-bids....stuff like that...

I'm remembering it like this as well. The NCAA doesn't have any juice to compel a conference to take any teams or anything like that as far as I've ever heard. They make the rules as far as the championships and how to be eligible for them but they can't tell a conference outside of that. If it is not going to be in the best interest of the conference and the member schools overall then those teams won't be in.

[GOKATS]

Who is they? The Big Sky doesn't have to do anything about this. The Big Sky could do something but I'm pretty sure it is still the BSC's decision if they want to or not.

Im sorry,

They as in the NCAA You dont think the NCAA would really let the GW be a 3 team only conf do you? Wouldnt you think the NCAA would push the Sky into adding the 3 teams?

Like Ursus said, the BSC doesn't have to do a damn thing about those three teams if they don't want to, it's all up to the AD's and ultimately the BSC school presidents. Fullerton, BSC commissioner, can make recommendations but the conference can do what it wants with no interference from NCAA.

[UNI88]

With South Dakota and possibly North Dakota leaving for the Summit League, what will become of the other 3 Great West teams?

Will they bring up some D2 schools to add to the Great West, or will they have no choice but to make the Big Sky a 2 division 12 team League?

Didn't SD join the Summit for all sports except football?

[EQguy]

Didn't SD join the Summit for all sports except football?

Yes South Dakota has joined the Summit league. The football conference is the MVFC and there has not been any indication of interest in either South Dakota or North Dakota (at least as far as I have heard). It is likely they will stay in the GWFC until someone moves or the MVFC decides it wants to start building a monolith similar to the CAA

[GOKATS]

Didn't SD join the Summit for all sports except football?

Yes South Dakota has joined the Summit league. The football conference is the MVFC and there has not been any indication of interest in either South Dakota or North Dakota (at least as far as I have heard). It is likely they will stay in the GWFC until someone moves or the MVFC decides it wants to start building a monolith similar to the CAA

Geographically it's not the best scenario for either UND or USD, but transition wise to the FCS it's probably about as good as they coud do, same as NDSU and SDSU. Other than that there's nothing wrong with the Great West other than the fact they can't get enough schools to commit to ever get an autobid, maybe someday that'll happen. It'd make sense for Sac St. to head that direction if it looked like the Great West was going to be long term, but if UND and USD find a slot with a conference closer to home it still leaves the GW with less than enough to be a viable conference. They are tough competitors though.

[SUUTbird]

Well having talked to the Great West Commisionar twice on the phone in the recent past he assured me that there were "several canidates" that he was considering bring up into the great west for football from d2. He is just waiting for the moving up ban to be lifted and he could not disclose which teams he was talking about. Also i know that he is still extensivley corting San Diego Universityas they actually have been open to the idea lately due to their bad economy and their ridiculous travel costs taking their toll. Im pretty sure South and North Dakota wont join the MVC as SUU is also in the summit leauge for every other sport along with NDSU and SDSU. I do think that some of the lead canidates of D2 schools moving to join the great west are probably out of these and also some FCS teams joining the ranks:

-Central Washington (Lack of D2 opponents out west and have always fielded a pretty good team)

-West Texas A&M (Long time D2 Power, great fan base bigger then alot of FCS teams)

-Cal State Fullerton (Support for bringing back Titan football is gaining momentumin part from support from USC head coach Pete Carrol, maybe football in 4 years)

-Utah Valley (Next step for the Wolverines their AD announced back in Nov of 08 is to see what they could do about bringing football to Orem, it was set to begin in 2012 but moved back due to finacial issues.)

-University of San Diego (I was delighted to hear the last time i spoke with Mr. Grom that SanDiego has begun to seriously consider joining the Great West by adding athletic Schoolies as their travel costs are getting absolutley out of hand.)

-Nau,UNC, Sac State? (Not at all saying that this will happen but the Big Sky should not have invited Northern Colorado to join the Big Sky especially with them being a new 1-aa team and possibly sac state and nau may take the great west as a better fit then the current Big Sky Slate in terms of travel and competition, who knows).

[UAalum72]

To the NCAA, a three-team conference is the same as a five-teamer. No autobid, no voting rights on issues voted by conference. Once you get to six teams, you get those rights. Otherwise it's just a scheduling agreement.

[SuperHornet]

Shut up, SUU. Your tired innuedos about the Big Sky not being a good "fit" for us have grown VERY stale. We're the dominant WVB team in the conference, and as a whole we're comfortable there.

Go away.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

To the NCAA, a three-team conference is the same as a five-teamer. No autobid, no voting rights on issues voted by conference. Once you get to six teams, you get those rights. Otherwise it's just a scheduling agreement.

You don't post much UA but I'm glad to see you when you do.

[JALMOND]

Well having talked to the Great West Commisionar twice on the phone in the recent past he assured me that there were "several canidates" that he was considering bring up into the great west for football from d2. He is just waiting for the moving up ban to be lifted and he could not disclose which teams he was talking about. Also i know that he is still extensivley corting San Diego Universityas they actually have been open to the idea lately due to their bad economy and their ridiculous travel costs taking their toll. Im pretty sure South and North Dakota wont join the MVC as SUU is also in the summit leauge for every other sport along with NDSU and SDSU. I do think that some of the lead canidates of D2 schools moving to join the great west are probably out of these and also some FCS teams joining the ranks:

-Central Washington (Lack of D2 opponents out west and have always fielded a pretty good team)

-West Texas A&M (Long time D2 Power, great fan base bigger then alot of FCS teams)

-Cal State Fullerton (Support for bringing back Titan football is gaining momentumin part from support from USC head coach Pete Carrol, maybe football in 4 years)

-Utah Valley (Next step for the Wolverines their AD announced back in Nov of 08 is to see what they could do about bringing football to Orem, it was set to begin in 2012 but moved back due to finacial issues.)

-University of San Diego (I was delighted to hear the last time i spoke with Mr. Grom that SanDiego has begun to seriously consider joining the Great West by adding athletic Schoolies as their travel costs are getting absolutley out of hand.)

-Nau,UNC, Sac State? (Not at all saying that this will happen but the Big Sky should not have invited Northern Colorado to join the Big Sky especially with them being a new 1-aa team and possibly sac state and nau may take the great west as a better fit then the current Big Sky Slate in terms of travel and competition, who knows).

I've heard some rumblings about Long Beach possibly starting football, but that is a long way in the future, Azuza Pacific might be able to sustain a move into this conference if it happens. Also, don't forget Portland State. When talks begin about a move to the WAC, a common argument for the Vikings to move there centers around common university demographics with Portland State and other members (urban commuter schools). To be able to achieve this and still stay in FCS may appeal to PSU, especially if Central Washington would be in this conference.

[travelinman67]

Well having talked to the Great West Commisionar twice on the phone in the recent past he assured me that there were "several canidates" that he was considering bring up into the great west for football from d2. He is just waiting for the moving up ban to be lifted and he could not disclose which teams he was talking about. Also i know that he is still extensivley corting San Diego Universityas they actually have been open to the idea lately due to their bad economy and their ridiculous travel costs taking their toll. Im pretty sure South and North Dakota wont join the MVC as SUU is also in the summit leauge for every other sport along with NDSU and SDSU. I do think that some of the lead canidates of D2 schools moving to join the great west are probably out of these and also some FCS teams joining the ranks:

-Central Washington (Lack of D2 opponents out west and have always fielded a pretty good team)

-West Texas A&M (Long time D2 Power, great fan base bigger then alot of FCS teams)

-Cal State Fullerton (Support for bringing back Titan football is gaining momentumin part from support from USC head coach Pete Carrol, maybe football in 4 years)

-Utah Valley (Next step for the Wolverines their AD announced back in Nov of 08 is to see what they could do about bringing football to Orem, it was set to begin in 2012 but moved back due to finacial issues.)

-University of San Diego (I was delighted to hear the last time i spoke with Mr. Grom that SanDiego has begun to seriously consider joining the Great West by adding athletic Schoolies as their travel costs are getting absolutley out of hand.)

-Nau,UNC, Sac State? (Not at all saying that this will happen but the Big Sky should not have invited Northern Colorado to join the Big Sky especially with them being a new 1-aa team and possibly sac state and nau may take the great west as a better fit then the current Big Sky Slate in terms of travel and competition, who knows).

SacState and NAU should head to the Great West. If for no other reason than travel facilitation.

Personally, I'd LOVE to see W. TX A&M move up and join one of the western conferences...their program is WELL suited for FCS...GREAT example of a TX program, though realistically, I won't happen as they'd spend half the season on buses.

[SuperHornet]

How could you, T-Man?

[JayJ79]

Isn't Southern Utah in the Summit League for it's non-football sports, and in the Great West for football?
And both Poly and Davis are in the Big West Conference for most sports.

So isn't the Great West still at 5 teams for football?