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... the conservative movement is in the process of suffering serious damage to its credibility ... The conservative movement and the Republican Party sacrificing credibility as they are doing right now is of great consequence. And it's happening.
I like to quote their "Bible" when the Righties enter full denial/hypocrisy mode:
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Righties love to put 'Party' before the best interests of the citizens of America ...
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Aho Old Guy wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: How can it be unsubstantiated, if the NYT and WaPo both repeated claims of surveillance? Which administration do they believe ordered the surveillance?
Alex Jones calling from InfoWars on line one. He wants to thank you for being a "True Believer"
CID1990 wrote: Trump's the same fabulist dude he's always been... since forever-

Frankly he's boring. Then he tweets again, and he's not boring for a few minutes ... and then he's tiresome again

But CNN is going through the most amazing, popcorn worthy paroxysms right now ...
:lol:
I see your CNN paroxysms, Cid, and raise you the pure entertainment value of Kelly Anne Conway ...
Surveillance can even be carried out with “microwaves that turn into cameras,” she added. “We know this is a fact of modern life.”

She'll be as forgotten and irrelevant as Obama's campaign manager (whoever that was) in the next few years- replaced by another partisan, right or left

CNN is still going to be trying to re-establish itself as a reputable news source and not partisan fluff like MSNBC and FOX well into the future - maybe forever (I'm not optimistic they will pull it off)

There's a fetish for illustrations and medieval accounts of cathedral collapses.... I never understood it until now


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Aho Old Guy wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: My point being the NYT and WaPo both said anonymous sources told them there was surveillance on the Trump admin.

Are you saying they were spreading fake news?
I'm not saying it, Cleetus. The NYT called BS on your BS -- today, as a matter of fact.
Puhleaze. They were already called to the mat by Trump and have since changed their tune. The newspaper of record. :rofl:

And, you're Cleetus.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Aho Old Guy wrote:
I'm not saying it, Cleetus. The NYT called BS on your BS -- today, as a matter of fact.
Puhleaze. They were already called to the mat by Trump and have since changed their tune. The newspaper of record. :rofl:

And, you're Cleetus.
Um...Gentlemen
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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Puhleaze. They were already called to the mat by Trump and have since changed their tune. The newspaper of record. :rofl:

And, you're Cleetus.
Um...Gentlemen
Cleet / Cleets /Cleetus are all private property

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CID1990 wrote:
Aho Old Guy wrote: Alex Jones calling from InfoWars on line one. He wants to thank you for being a "True Believer"



:lol:
I see your CNN paroxysms, Cid, and raise you the pure entertainment value of Kelly Anne Conway ...
Surveillance can even be carried out with “microwaves that turn into cameras,” she added. “We know this is a fact of modern life.”

She'll be as forgotten and irrelevant as Obama's campaign manager (whoever that was) in the next few years- replaced by another partisan, right or left

CNN is still going to be trying to re-establish itself as a reputable news source and not partisan fluff like MSNBC and FOX well into the future - maybe forever (I'm not optimistic they will pull it off)

There's a fetish for illustrations and medieval accounts of cathedral collapses.... I never understood it until now


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Trying to downplay Kellyannes entertainment value..... :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:

She'll be as forgotten and irrelevant as Obama's campaign manager (whoever that was) in the next few years- replaced by another partisan, right or left

CNN is still going to be trying to re-establish itself as a reputable news source and not partisan fluff like MSNBC and FOX well into the future - maybe forever (I'm not optimistic they will pull it off)

There's a fetish for illustrations and medieval accounts of cathedral collapses.... I never understood it until now


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Trying to downplay Kellyannes entertainment value..... :ohno:
Oh, she's entertaining for about 30 seconds, Stinkin

Then she basically becomes every other Presidential mouthpiece ever hatched

I guess she's entertaining to you since her BS is so easily detectable.

I prefer my BS artists to be more smug prickish and nuanced


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:lol:
The chairman of the House intelligence committee said Wednesday that the panel has found no evidence to substantiate President Donald Trump's claim his campaign headquarters was wiretapped on orders from President Barack Obama.

"We don't have any evidence that that took place," Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., said in a press conference on Capitol Hill. "I don't believe, just in the last week of time based on the people we've talked to, I don't believe there was an actual tap of Trump Tower."
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Trump must be steaming after his tax returns were revealed to the public who did the American ppl the huge favor!!!!!!!
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dal4018 wrote:Trump must be steaming after his tax returns were revealed to the public who did the American ppl the huge favor!!!!!!!
:lol: Trump is Rick Rolling the MSM.
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Ibanez wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Trump must be steaming after his tax returns were revealed to the public who did the American ppl the huge favor!!!!!!!
Image Trump is Rick Rolling the MSM.
No shit. My wife told me the internet was alive with "Trump's team provided the taxes" because he came out smelling great.

Maddow ate shit on this one. Bwaha!
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Trying to downplay Kellyannes entertainment value..... :ohno:
Oh, she's entertaining for about 30 seconds, Stinkin

Then she basically becomes every other Presidential mouthpiece ever hatched

I guess she's entertaining to you since her BS is so easily detectable.

I prefer my BS artists to be more smug prickish and nuanced


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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Oh, she's entertaining for about 30 seconds, Stinkin

Then she basically becomes every other Presidential mouthpiece ever hatched

I guess she's entertaining to you since her BS is so easily detectable.

I prefer my BS artists to be more smug prickish and nuanced


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
E.G.: Rachel Maddox?
You mean that chick with the YUGE sack?


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Ravings of a senile old man.


>Carlson: So on March 4th, 6:35 in the morning, you’re down in Florida, and you tweet, the former administration wiretapped me, surveilled me, at Trump Tower during the last election. How did you find out? You said, I just found out. How did you learn that?

>Trump: Well, I’ve been reading about things. I read in, I think it was Jan. 20th, a New York Times article where they were talking about wiretapping. There was an article. I think they used that exact term. I read other things. I watched your friend Bret Baier the day previous where he was talking about certain very complex sets of things happening, and wiretapping. I said, wait a minute, there’s a lot of wiretapping being talked about. I’ve been seeing a lot of things. Now, for the most part, I’m not going to discuss it, because we have it before the committee and we will be submitting things before the committee very soon that hasn’t been submitted as of yet. But it’s potentially a very serious situation.

>Carlson: Why not wait to tweet about it until you can prove it? Don’t you devalue your words when you can’t provide evidence?

>Trump: Well, because the New York Times wrote about it. Not that I respect the New York Times. I call it the failing New York Times. But they did write on Jan. 20th using the word wiretap. Other people have come out with…

>Carlson: Right, but you’re the president. You have the ability to gather all the evidence you want.

>Trump: I do. I do. But I think that frankly we have a lot right now. And I think if you watch—if you watched the Bret Baier and what he was saying and what he was talking about and how he mentioned the word “wiretap,” you would feel very confident that you could mention the name. He mentioned it. And other people have mentioned it. But if you take a look at some of the things written about wiretapping and eavesdropping… and don’t forget I say wiretapping, those words were in quotes. That really covers—because wiretapping is pretty old-fashioned stuff—but that really covers surveillance and many other things. And nobody ever talks about the fact that it was in quotes, but that’s a very important thing. But wire tape covers a lot of different things. I think you’re going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks.

I invite you all to read out loud Trump's replies. I just tried. It's impossible not to sound like a complete, huge, shameless moron.
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Jesus... :rofl:
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Skjellyfetti wrote: I invite you all to read out loud Trump's replies. I just tried. It's impossible not to sound like a complete, huge, shameless moron.
What happens if I read it in your voice?
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kalm wrote:Jesus... :rofl:
Yeah I definitely lost my shit right here :lol:

Well, because the New York Times wrote about it. Not that I respect the New York Times. I call it the failing New York Times. But they did write on Jan. 20th using the word wiretap.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
kalm wrote:Jesus... :rofl:
Yeah I definitely lost my shit right here :lol:

Well, because the New York Times wrote about it. Not that I respect the New York Times. I call it the failing New York Times. But they did write on Jan. 20th using the word wiretap.
There's something to say about that line because that's where I stopped. What an ass


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CID1990 wrote:Remember back when lying about things wasn't suspicious at all and not a signal of a coverup?


Benghazi!!!!

(But Obama)


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mrklean wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Remember back when lying about things wasn't suspicious at all and not a signal of a coverup?


Benghazi!!!!

(But Obama)


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What was the lie about that???
Please tell me the lie!!!! :coffee:
Obama did say Fast & Furious began under Bush. That was a lie.

You can keep your doctor.

That's just off the top of my head...
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote: What was the lie about that???
Please tell me the lie!!!! :coffee:
Obama did say Fast & Furious began under Bush. That was a lie.

You can keep your doctor.

That's just off the top of my head...
Wellll ... :lol:

History can be a beeotch. Calling that a 'lie' is bordering on disingenuous, but you are free to believe what you want to believe. This is one of those Right/Left things where folks tend to leave out a sheet-load of context. Basically:

*Project Gun Runner* (or something like that) was initiated by the ATF in 2006. There were multiple operations conducted under that umbrella. Hundreds of weapons 'walked' before 'El Prezzie Obummer' even took office, and there were 'players' in this mess that make 'Obama Lied" look like WAY too much partisan tripe.

There, of course, is a rather exhaustive report with all this info if you care to go out and look for it. I saved (and skimmed) a copy of the report, and what I can recall there were several ATF supervisors and a Federal ADA (in Tucson/Phoenix ?) that really screwed the pooch in a major way.

So there. :D
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Aho Old Guy wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Obama did say Fast & Furious began under Bush. That was a lie.

You can keep your doctor.

That's just off the top of my head...
Wellll ... :lol:

History can be a beeotch. Calling that a 'lie' is bordering on disingenuous, but you are free to believe what you want to believe. This is one of those Right/Left things where folks tend to leave out a sheet-load of context. Basically:

*Project Gun Runner* (or something like that) was initiated by the ATF in 2006. There were multiple operations conducted under that umbrella. Hundreds of weapons 'walked' before 'El Prezzie Obummer' even took office, and there were 'players' in this mess that make 'Obama Lied" look like WAY too much partisan tripe.

There, of course, is a rather exhaustive report with all this info if you care to go out and look for it. I saved (and skimmed) a copy of the report, and what I can recall there were several ATF supervisors and a Federal ADA (in Tucson/Phoenix ?) that really screwed the pooch in a major way.

So there. :D
Saying you can do something and then that not being true is pretty cut and dry.
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mrklean wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Remember back when lying about things wasn't suspicious at all and not a signal of a coverup?


Benghazi!!!!

(But Obama)


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What was the lie about that???
Please tell me the lie!!!! :coffee:
The administration told a lie to preserve a political narrative, Klein.

They blamed the Benghazi attack on a video and shortly thereafter it was proven to be a total fabrication.

Not a crime, and certainly not unique to the Obama administration.


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I'm seeing some serious lack of context and objectivity with a large dose of denial, here, gentlemen.

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