The Handwriting is on the Wall

[Rob Iola]

John, long-term you're probably right. More non-whites = more Democrats. The 2018 mid-term elections will be very interesting, although the Democrats have more red state Senate incumbents to defend than Republicans do in blue/swing states.

But for now, here's what the Republican party's achieved:
- President: 4 years of a Republican. If the Dems don't get a charismatic Bill Clinton/Barack Obama-type candidate for 2020 and the economy doesn't tank, then 8 years of a Republican.
- Congress: Republican controlled House and Senate. No effective Democratic veto power (thanks to Harry Reid) in the Senate. A House Speaker really of Trump's choosing - either Ryan or a Tea Party nominee. Either way the Tea Party calms down and doesn't keep throwing sand in the government gears (cuz their base has backed Trump, giving him the power to castrate the Tea Party Reps if they get in his way). And if nothing else Trump was instrumental in rendering Ted Cruz irrelevant.
- SCOTUS: No Merrick Garland in the Supreme Court. And when pancreatic cancer finally gets the best of Ginsberg (and it will), then another conservative SCOTUS justice. So now we're at 5 conservative justices. Anthony Kennedy's 80. Steven Breyer's 78. By 2020 you're likely looking at a court of Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and 3 other conservatives. By 2024 that number could total 7.
- A Day 1 roll-back of all Obama executive orders. A coordinated legislative/executive branch roll-back of Obamacare. A series of legislative implementations of core Republican positions and policies that will require full Democratic control of government to reverse.
- No Republican primary in 2020 and possibly 2024 (if Trump is reelected and Mike Pence is strong enough to beat back pre-primary challenges). This is bigly yuge. No recurring cycle of Republicans dissolving into extremist factions and destroying each other in circular firing squads.

[93henfan]

John, long-term you're probably right. More non-whites = more Democrats. The 2018 mid-term elections will be very interesting, although the Democrats have more red state Senate incumbents to defend than Republicans do in blue/swing states.

But for now, here's what the Republican party's achieved:
- President: 4 years of a Republican. If the Dems don't get a charismatic Bill Clinton/Barack Obama-type candidate for 2020 and the economy doesn't tank, then 8 years of a Republican.
- Congress: Republican controlled House and Senate. No effective Democratic veto power (thanks to Harry Reid) in the Senate. A House Speaker really of Trump's choosing - either Ryan or a Tea Party nominee. Either way the Tea Party calms down and doesn't keep throwing sand in the government gears (cuz their base has backed Trump, giving him the power to castrate the Tea Party Reps if they get in his way).
- SCOTUS: No Merrick Garland in the Supreme Court. And when pancreatic cancer finally gets the best of Ginsberg (and it will), then another conservative SCOTUS justice. So now we're at 5 conservative justices. Anthony Kennedy's 80. Steven Breyer's 78. By 2020 you're likely looking at a court of Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and 3 other conservatives. By 2024 that number could total 7.
- A Day 1 roll-back of all Obama executive orders. A coordinated legislative/executive branch roll-back of Obamacare. A series of legislative implementations of core Republican positions and policies that will require full Democratic control of government to reverse.
- No Republican primary in 2020 and possibly 2024 (if Trump is reelected and Mike Pence is strong enough to beat back pre-primary challenges). This is bigly yuge. No recurring cycle of Republicans dissolving into extremist factions and destroying each other in circular firing squads. If nothing else Trump was instrumental in getting rid of Ted Cruz.

This post is beautiful.

More beautiful than Fauxcohantas, who will be Trump's opponent in 2020. Unless they can get Michelle Obama to run.

[CAA Flagship]

The problem JSO has is that he, like so many people, wants put a label on each person so that they automatically fit into a certain group.

But wouldn't that make him a liberal.

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Leaning that way. But both sides do this.
The only answer to election results is to the question of WHY people voted the way they did.
The majority of the Brown vote is divided between the Cuban normalization of diplomatic relations, illegal immigration, and Christian beliefs. You can't look at Team Brown numbers as a whole. It won't give you the answer anyone is looking for. But JSO believes that looking at those numbers will somehow make the little green monkeys go away.

[BDKJMU]

John, long-term you're probably right. More non-whites = more Democrats. The 2018 mid-term elections will be very interesting, although the Democrats have more red state Senate incumbents to defend than Republicans do in blue/swing states.

But for now, here's what the Republican party's achieved:
- President: 4 years of a Republican. If the Dems don't get a charismatic Bill Clinton/Barack Obama-type candidate for 2020 and the economy doesn't tank, then 8 years of a Republican.
- Congress: Republican controlled House and Senate. No effective Democratic veto power (thanks to Harry Reid) in the Senate. A House Speaker really of Trump's choosing - either Ryan or a Tea Party nominee. Either way the Tea Party calms down and doesn't keep throwing sand in the government gears (cuz their base has backed Trump, giving him the power to castrate the Tea Party Reps if they get in his way). And if nothing else Trump was instrumental in rendering Ted Boobs irrelevant.
- SCOTUS: No Merrick Garland in the Supreme Court. And when pancreatic cancer finally gets the best of Ginsberg (and it will), then another conservative SCOTUS justice. So now we're at 5 conservative justices. Anthony Kennedy's 80. Steven Breyer's 78. By 2020 you're likely looking at a court of Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and 3 other conservatives. By 2024 that number could total 7.
- A Day 1 roll-back of all Obama executive orders. A coordinated legislative/executive branch roll-back of Obamacare. A series of legislative implementations of core Republican positions and policies that will require full Democratic control of government to reverse.
- No Republican primary in 2020 and possibly 2024 (if Trump is reelected and Mike Pence is strong enough to beat back pre-primary challenges). This is bigly yuge. No recurring cycle of Republicans dissolving into extremist factions and destroying each other in circular firing squads.

You're off by 1. Right now only 3 conservative justices:
-Roberts (barely- remember he was the 5th vote with the liberals upholding Obamacare not once but twice).
-Alito
-Thomas
-Scalia's replacement will make 4.

Kennedy is no conservative. Has voted with the left many times. A few examples: Was the 5th vote in eliminating death penalty for 17 year olds, 5th vote twice on forcing gay marriage on all states, 4th vote in 4-4 tie upholding affirmative action. Call him the centrist vote if you will.

With Scalia's replacement will have a 4 liberal/4 conservative, 1 centrist evenly divided court.

You are correct though if Trump is in for 8 years and replaces Kennedy, Ginsburg & Breyer could be 7-2 conservative split..

[Rob Iola]

John, long-term you're probably right. More non-whites = more Democrats. The 2018 mid-term elections will be very interesting, although the Democrats have more red state Senate incumbents to defend than Republicans do in blue/swing states.

But for now, here's what the Republican party's achieved:
- President: 4 years of a Republican. If the Dems don't get a charismatic Bill Clinton/Barack Obama-type candidate for 2020 and the economy doesn't tank, then 8 years of a Republican.
- Congress: Republican controlled House and Senate. No effective Democratic veto power (thanks to Harry Reid) in the Senate. A House Speaker really of Trump's choosing - either Ryan or a Tea Party nominee. Either way the Tea Party calms down and doesn't keep throwing sand in the government gears (cuz their base has backed Trump, giving him the power to castrate the Tea Party Reps if they get in his way). And if nothing else Trump was instrumental in rendering Ted Boobs irrelevant.
- SCOTUS: No Merrick Garland in the Supreme Court. And when pancreatic cancer finally gets the best of Ginsberg (and it will), then another conservative SCOTUS justice. So now we're at 5 conservative justices. Anthony Kennedy's 80. Steven Breyer's 78. By 2020 you're likely looking at a court of Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and 3 other conservatives. By 2024 that number could total 7.
- A Day 1 roll-back of all Obama executive orders. A coordinated legislative/executive branch roll-back of Obamacare. A series of legislative implementations of core Republican positions and policies that will require full Democratic control of government to reverse.
- No Republican primary in 2020 and possibly 2024 (if Trump is reelected and Mike Pence is strong enough to beat back pre-primary challenges). This is bigly yuge. No recurring cycle of Republicans dissolving into extremist factions and destroying each other in circular firing squads.

You're off by 1. Right now only 3 conservative justices:
-Roberts (barely- remember he was the 5th vote with the liberals upholding Obamacare not once but twice).
-Alito
-Thomas
-Scalia's replacement will make 4.

Kennedy is no conservative. Has voted with the left many times. A few examples: Was the 5th vote in eliminating death penalty for 17 year olds, 5th vote twice on forcing gay marriage on all states, 4th vote in 4-4 tie upholding affirmative action. Call him the centrist vote if you will.

With Scalia's replacement will have a 4 liberal/4 conservative, 1 centrist evenly divided court.

You are correct though if Trump is in for 8 years and replaces Kennedy, Ginsburg & Breyer could be 7-2 conservative split..

My count is based on Roberts (conservative in that he's shown he doesn't want to legislate from the bench), Alito, Thomas, Scalia's replacement, Ginsberg's replacement (that's 5), and either Kennedy or Breyer's replacement (that's 6). So yes I'm assuming that Trump gets to choose 3 justices, he chooses truly conservative justices (e.g., no David Souters), and that the Senate remains Republican long enough to confirm them.

[Ibanez]

Enjoy yourselves and take your shots. I think that deep inside you know very well what the math is and know very well that unless Republicans find a way to sway non Whites their time is running out. And I also think you know very well that they took a step backwards in that regard during this election cycle.

Why do we start treating people like people and we don't have to worry about things like this. When you treat people as equals, they usually will return the same treatment in kind. Is that so hard?

I'm all for that but people don't want to treat me equally. They want to call me a redneck and a racist; I'm judged based on my skin by the very people that don't want to be judged based on their skin color. They accuse and blame me for the thoughts and actions of a small group of dead people.


So...tell you what you don't blame me or associate me with Calhoun or Trump and I'll not associate you with Rodney King or Michael Brown.


How bout I judge you, based on your actions..,will that work?



Btw, that's the understood "you."

[Ibanez]

Why do we start treating people like people and we don't have to worry about things like this. When you treat people as equals, they usually will return the same treatment in kind. Is that so hard?

klean - you just nailed it

im not sure you realize you nailed it, but you nailed it


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Yep...it's a simple as that.

[mrklean]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

[YoUDeeMan]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

NPR.

[CAA Flagship]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

I think you will get a different answer with different people.

For me, there is no greater concern than to have an opportunity for me, and my children, to prosper in a free and safe society.
And by prosper, I mean being able to receive an appropriate compensation for the amount of effort given, and results achieved.

As far as "culture" goes, I think it is clear that whites are willing to accept "cultures" that are different.
I think whites like the things they have. But I also think that they like to add to it, too. This can be seen by the popularity of things like black athletes and entertainers, Mexican food, and Asian massage parlors . There are tons of new things that whites have accepted over the years. But not every person will react the same. Some like mountains. Some like the beach. And some like the shit in between.

If you think this is incorrect, then think about how popular the following things are in America, and tell me if you think they would be anywhere near as popular without the acceptance of whites:
Motown and Rap music, acrobatic basketball dunks, end zone celebrations, sushi, Big Papi, Eddie Murphy, Tiger Woods, alternative handshakes, flip flops, etc.

[Bisonfanatical]

Still sore? Don't worry. Your butthole will heal. There are people here who can give you some pointers.

Has nothing to do with being sore. It's reality. Republicans really, really screwed up. I have been saying all along that the worse thing that could happen for both the Republican Party and the Country is for Trump to win. I also have been saying that it's possible that he could because Clinton was such a bad candidate.

Now the worst thing has happened. Do I wish it wouldn't have? Of course. But the reality is the reality. The days of the Republican Party being a viable check on Democratic Party power are numbered. And it's a smaller number than it was before the Republicans decided to nominate Trump.

There are 2 huge points on this, imo,

1- you are correct that Hillary was an extremely bad candidate for any political party. What a enormously polarizing figure.

2- you keep putting all of this victory on the Republican party, there were a lot of democratic voters who are hoping for a change that will benefit them, who voted for the Donald "because" he was not a typical republican.



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[Gil Dobie]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

American culture does not equal white culture. American culture is a blended culture with a mixture of every culture that has lived in this country. Everyone is supposed to be treated equally, and that has and is coming with time. As much as people that voted for H-Rod think that Trump is a Racist, they are acting like bigots saying people that voted for Trump are less educated, backward, and racist. Hillary even admitted it hurt her campaign using the deplorable label for Trump supporters. Hypocrisy at it's worst. IMO, many that voted for Trump are sick and tired of the politically correct "Nanny" state. It's fine to help people that can't afford insurance, but it affected everyone in a big way. I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but I don't think Trump is any worse.

[Ibanez]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

[CID1990]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

But you are a scion of the white, slaveholding pigs who created this beacon of light


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[kalm]

I want to ask a serious question. No disrespect but a question. Do White males really worry about not being on top in this country. As I stated before, if we treat each other as equals, it will not matter who has a majority in this county. I'm not a white guy, but I do realize that it could seem difficult seeing something you are used too change. I want to know do you worry about white people becoming the minority in America or the American Culture changing? Personally speaking, the American Culture will never change. The people may look different, but the culture will stay the same. Case in point, during the Mongol invasion of China. The mongols were able to invade and control China, but over time, the Mongols became Chinese in less than 100 years. I'm asking this question because I heard an interview on NPR on the reason why white males voted for Trump and most of them stated that they believed they was loosing their American culture. Just my .02

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

I think I understand why you feel this way considering where you're from and your love of history and the South, but I, in no way feel vilified.

And to answer your questions, Klean...I'm not concerned at all about whites not being on top.

The only concern I might have is seeing culture become less friendly. That's not a racial thing it's an EC(b)/big city thing. I like it that every farmer gives you a wave as you're driving down a dirt road. I like it when people genuinely greet you and make small talk.

[Baldy]

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

I think I understand why you feel this way considering where you're from and your love of history and the South, but I, in no way feel vilified.

And to answer your questions, Klean...I'm not concerned at all about whites not being on top.

The only concern I might have is seeing culture become less friendly. That's not a racial thing it's an EC(b)/big city thing. I like it that every farmer gives you a wave as you're driving down a dirt road. I like it when people genuinely greet you and make small talk.

Oh to be a beacon of tolerance and understanding like the Lesser Coast out West.

#Calexit #OreGONE

[kalm]

I think I understand why you feel this way considering where you're from and your love of history and the South, but I, in no way feel vilified.

And to answer your questions, Klean...I'm not concerned at all about whites not being on top.

The only concern I might have is seeing culture become less friendly. That's not a racial thing it's an EC(b)/big city thing. I like it that every farmer gives you a wave as you're driving down a dirt road. I like it when people genuinely greet you and make small talk.

Oh to be a beacon of tolerance and understanding like the Lesser Coast out West.

#Calexit #OreGONE

Hey! I didn't mention the South and their faux politeness.

[Baldy]

Oh to be a beacon of tolerance and understanding like the Lesser Coast out West.

#Calexit #OreGONE

Hey! I didn't mention the South and their faux politeness.

Well, bless your little heart.

[kalm]

Hey! I didn't mention the South and their faux politeness.

Well, bless your little heart.

[Ibanez]

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

I think I understand why you feel this way considering where you're from and your love of history and the South, but I, in no way feel vilified.

And to answer your questions, Klean...I'm not concerned at all about whites not being on top.

The only concern I might have is seeing culture become less friendly. That's not a racial thing it's an EC(b)/big city thing. I like it that every farmer gives you a wave as you're driving down a dirt road. I like it when people genuinely greet you and make small talk.

EC(b) thing? C'mon now. Bless your heart. People around here are pleasant. I think it's really a big city attribute like NYC, Charlotte, Chicago or Atlanta. But if you go to smaller cities and towns, you'll see it. Charleston is small (137K in the city and 750k metro) but there is no shortage of people sincerely greeting you as you walk down King Street or East Bay. I don't think my experience is unique as I've watched it with others, but it's not uncommon for someone to walk into a coffee shop, or down the Market and encounter a friend, family member, former classmate and have a conversation. I've had more friendly encounters w/ former HS classmates while walking around downtown, or being at a brewery than I ever did when actually in school with them. And if you go out to one of the islands, you'll find the same friendly farmers.


Our two worlds are too different.

[Ibanez]

I have no problem with my race not being the majority. I just don't want to be vilified for everything under the sun and for everything that happened before me.

But you are a scion of the white, slaveholding pigs who created this beacon of light


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I'm the scion of potato farmers, Canadian tailors, poor white farmers and a German brewer.

[Ibanez]

Oh to be a beacon of tolerance and understanding like the Lesser Coast out West.

#Calexit #OreGONE

Hey! I didn't mention the South and their faux politeness.

You haven't lived until you said something stupid and had someone tell you, " bless your heart." The sincerity in which it's said makes me laugh every time.

[YoUDeeMan]

kkklean, you ask an ignorant question because you were fed ignorant information and you gladly ate it up with an agenda.

Typical.

[CID1990]

But you are a scion of the white, slaveholding pigs who created this beacon of light


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I'm the scion of potato farmers, Canadian tailors, poor white farmers and a German brewer.

That doesn't matter. You look just like Thomas Jefferson and a bunch of those other Enlightenment bigots


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[Ibanez]

I'm the scion of potato farmers, Canadian tailors, poor white farmers and a German brewer.

That doesn't matter. You look just like Thomas Jefferson and a bunch of those other Enlightenment bigots


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Southern motherfvkcin Democratic-Republican.