I'm telling youIvytalk wrote:Crying babies? Purple Hearts? Trump couldn't have had a worse day if JSO himself was his campaign manager.
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans

I'm telling youIvytalk wrote:Crying babies? Purple Hearts? Trump couldn't have had a worse day if JSO himself was his campaign manager.

What are the odds that he'll drop out in the next 30 days?CID1990 wrote:I'm telling youIvytalk wrote:Crying babies? Purple Hearts? Trump couldn't have had a worse day if JSO himself was his campaign manager.
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans

I'm not totally convinced of this yet, but it's certainly seeming more plausible...CID1990 wrote:I'm telling youIvytalk wrote:Crying babies? Purple Hearts? Trump couldn't have had a worse day if JSO himself was his campaign manager.
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/ally-of- ... it-in.htmlDonald Trump's behavior in recent days, from criticizing the parents of a fallen American soldier to declining to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan, has strained the nerves of his campaign staff as he falls behind in the polls.
I exchanged messages Tuesday evening with a longtime ally of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, whom I asked about who was calling the shots in the campaign. The response indicated that Manafort, a veteran of Republican politics brought in this spring for the transition from primaries to the general election, has lost control over his candidate.
"Manafort not challenging (Trump) anymore," Manafort's ally wrote. "Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."

Shows the inherent futility of trying to keep Drumpf "on message."kalm wrote:I'm not totally convinced of this yet, but it's certainly seeming more plausible...CID1990 wrote:
I'm telling you
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/ally-of- ... it-in.htmlDonald Trump's behavior in recent days, from criticizing the parents of a fallen American soldier to declining to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan, has strained the nerves of his campaign staff as he falls behind in the polls.
I exchanged messages Tuesday evening with a longtime ally of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, whom I asked about who was calling the shots in the campaign. The response indicated that Manafort, a veteran of Republican politics brought in this spring for the transition from primaries to the general election, has lost control over his candidate.
"Manafort not challenging (Trump) anymore," Manafort's ally wrote. "Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."

Yet he still put the smackdown on you "misattributing" NAFTA to Bill Clinton....Cluck U wrote:Why aren't you posting Hillary's lies?JohnStOnge wrote:Guys, all the stuff about whether there was an armed security guard or not is secondary. The main point is that Trump lied about what he was said. Again, this is what he initially said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYEi3Ec9FGc[/youtube]
Watch that video and then note that he later said he was "obviously" talking about having additional armed security guards in nightclubs:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... t-additio/
He was lying when he said he was talking about additional security guards or employees people. THAT is what's obvious. He was lying. Again. He does that kind of thing repeatedly.![]()
Why aren't you posting Hillary's issues?
You aren't being objective...and you know it.
And, as Ivy pointed out, you are a fraud.![]()
You've lost all credibility on this forum as you've become a clown speaker for Hillary. You have no ability to think clearly or rationally.

When did I say this? Bush the Elder got NAFTA started, but Bill Clinton signed the implementing legislation and pushed for its ratification by the Senate. Bill Clinton got NAFTA over the goal line. Hillary was too busy with her harebrained health care scheme to notice.houndawg wrote:Yet he still put the smackdown on you "misattributing" NAFTA to Bill Clinton....Cluck U wrote:
Why aren't you posting Hillary's lies?![]()
Why aren't you posting Hillary's issues?
You aren't being objective...and you know it.
And, as Ivy pointed out, you are a fraud.![]()
You've lost all credibility on this forum as you've become a clown speaker for Hillary. You have no ability to think clearly or rationally.

You know, my wife and I have talked about that. We have seriously talked about whether or not Trump entered the race to sabotage Republicans when it looked like they had a really good chance to win.CID1990 wrote:I'm telling youIvytalk wrote:Crying babies? Purple Hearts? Trump couldn't have had a worse day if JSO himself was his campaign manager.
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans


Did you ask God why he let Trump run in the first place?JohnStOnge wrote:You know, my wife and I have talked about that. We have seriously talked about whether or not Trump entered the race to sabotage Republicans when it looked like they had a really good chance to win.CID1990 wrote:
I'm telling you
He's a Clinton plant.
20 years from now on his deathbed Trump will spill the beans
But that was early on. Right now I don't believe that. Right now I am inclined to say that Trump is just a nut job and I pray to GOD that he doesn't end up as President because it would be like hiring a guy with a 0.30 blood alcohol level to fly the plane you're on.

I didn't think to do that. But it's a good question. Actually a good question is why He allowed Trump to ever be born.houndawg wrote:
Did you ask God why he let Trump run in the first place?


FIFY - you're a Hillbot now and need to get with the program. It's pretty obvious that despite your excellent propaganda work you haven't been fully assimilated. Please report to the Lower 9th Ward for immediate reprogramming.JohnStOnge wrote:I didn't think to do that. But it's a good question. Actually a good question is why SHE allowed Trump to ever be born.houndawg wrote:
Did you ask God why he let Trump run in the first place?
But, obviously, there have been a lot of people like that.

You're evil, 88!UNI88 wrote:FIFY - you're a Hillbot now and need to get with the program. It's pretty obvious that despite your excellent propaganda work you haven't been fully assimilated. Please report to the Lower 9th Ward for immediate reprogramming.JohnStOnge wrote:
I didn't think to do that. But it's a good question. Actually a good question is why SHE allowed Trump to ever be born.
But, obviously, there have been a lot of people like that.

let Dr. John set you rightUNI88 wrote:FIFY - you're a Hillbot now and need to get with the program. It's pretty obvious that despite your excellent propaganda work you haven't been fully assimilated. Please report to the Lower 9th Ward for immediate reprogramming.JohnStOnge wrote:
I didn't think to do that. But it's a good question. Actually a good question is why SHE allowed Trump to ever be born.
But, obviously, there have been a lot of people like that.

A few days ago, I was asked on CNN to make sense of one more case in which Donald Trump had said something demonstrably false and then explained it away with a caustic tweet and an indignant interview. I replied that there was a pattern here and a term for a person who did this kind of thing: a “bullshit artist.” I got cheers and boos for the comment from partisans on both sides, but I was not using that label casually. Trump is many things, some of them dark and dangerous, but at his core, he is a B.S. artist.


Congratulations, John! You found a story that describes 99% of all politicians.JohnStOnge wrote:Just thought of the article, The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S., (at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 22b4040634) as I watched a story this morning on last night's Trump rally.
Trump looks into the media pool camera, which is recording video the whole time, and says, "Look they just turned the camera off." That in the context of him criticizing the media. I guess he was trying to imply that they didn't want what he was saying to get out. But they obviously didn't turn the camera off because you're looking at the video the camera made of him saying that.
And I have no doubt it's something he just made up. Just more Trump bullshit. He does it so much it's impossible to separate from his day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute, second to second discourse. It's like Heidi Cruise once said after a dust up during the primaries: What Trump says has no relationship to reality.
From the linked editorial:
A few days ago, I was asked on CNN to make sense of one more case in which Donald Trump had said something demonstrably false and then explained it away with a caustic tweet and an indignant interview. I replied that there was a pattern here and a term for a person who did this kind of thing: a “bullshit artist.” I got cheers and boos for the comment from partisans on both sides, but I was not using that label casually. Trump is many things, some of them dark and dangerous, but at his core, he is a B.S. artist.

In the wake of the Democratic convention, some foot-in-mouth comments by Donald Trump, and a poll bounce for Hillary Clinton, much of the political class has decided that the presidential race is all but over. But across most of America, voters are at least as apt to be swayed by issues as by a convention's production values or a candidate's gaffes—and essentially every issue favors Trump.

I was talking to cuck.Ivytalk wrote:When did I say this? Bush the Elder got NAFTA started, but Bill Clinton signed the implementing legislation and pushed for its ratification by the Senate. Bill Clinton got NAFTA over the goal line. Hillary was too busy with her harebrained health care scheme to notice.houndawg wrote:
Yet he still put the smackdown on you "misattributing" NAFTA to Bill Clinton....

No. He's not like most politicians and I think you can see that in the media comments. They pretty much say that they've never dealt with a candidate that puts out as much obviously false information before. Some people dismiss Politifact but if a concern is about anti Republican bias Politifact has dealt with many Republicans in the past yet Trump inspires the comment in my signature. You don't see too many politicians do things as obvious as say they got a letter from the NFL expressing concern over the debate schedule then have the NFL publicly say "no we didn't." This guy is way beyond typical politicians when it comes to just constantly spouting false information.kalm wrote:
Congratulations, John! You found a story that describes 99% of all politicians.![]()
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In other words he's just like the rest of them but more so.JohnStOnge wrote:No. He's not like most politicians and I think you can see that in the media comments. They pretty much say that they've never dealt with a candidate that puts out as much obviously false information before. Some people dismiss Politifact but if a concern is about anti Republican bias Politifact has dealt with many Republicans in the past yet Trump inspires the comment in my signature. You don't see too many politicians do things as obvious as say they got a letter from the NFL expressing concern over the debate schedule then have the NFL publicly say "no we didn't." This guy is way beyond typical politicians when it comes to just constantly spouting false information.kalm wrote:
Congratulations, John! You found a story that describes 99% of all politicians.![]()
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The problem is that certain people...and you know who you are...won't admit that regardless of how obvious it is. They'll do things like attack a messenger such as Politifact when Politifact has his frequency of false or pants on fire statements among those evaluated at more than 4 times Clinton's (55% vs. 13% right now). Instead of just admitting the obvious they'll go into denial mode and say it's just that Politifact is SO unreliable and/or biased that they got that kind of result.
He has set a new standard for bullshit and it's a shame that there are so many people who find excuses to admit that that is the truth.

You mean op-ed..JohnStOnge wrote:Just thought of the article, The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S., (at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 22b4040634)

Yes, as I mentioned later in the post it's an editorial. But the guy nailed it. A bullshit artist is exactly what Trump is. The shame of it is that you have these people all enamored with him saying he's "genuine" and "tells it like it is" when nothing could be further from the truth. He's a totally phony bullshit artist who does anything BUT tell it like it is.BDKJMU wrote:You mean op-ed..JohnStOnge wrote:Just thought of the article, The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S., (at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 22b4040634)


Just like the 99% of them kalm referred to.JohnStOnge wrote:Yes, as I mentioned later in the post it's an editorial. But the guy nailed it. A bullshit artist is exactly what Trump is. The shame of it is that you have these people all enamored with him saying he's "genuine" and "tells it like it is" when nothing could be further from the truth. He's a totally phony bullshit artist who does anything BUT tell it like it is.BDKJMU wrote:
You mean op-ed..



The difference between reason and faith in a nutshell.JohnStOnge wrote:I didn't think to do that. But it's a good question. Actually a good question is why He allowed Trump to ever be born.houndawg wrote:
Did you ask God why he let Trump run in the first place?
But, obviously, there have been a lot of people like that.



JSO...you really are a twat.JohnStOnge wrote:Not Trump this time but his buddy Pence. Pence is on Jake Tapper and starts railing about Clinton's speech this last Thursday about how it's dividing people by race and such. Tapper says wait a second, Trump's been calling Clinton a bigot. Pence said yeah but that's because of she started it with her speech.
Problem: Trump started using that stuff of calling Clinton a Bigot at least 9 days before she gave her speech. I found a reference to it being done on August 16. He may have done it earlier than that. But for sure he did it at least that early. Clinton gave her speech on August 25.