And she's the best person to run this country?"Although we did not find clear evidence" of intentional misconduct, he added, "There is evidence that they were extremely careless of very sensitive, highly classified information.
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Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
Translation of Comey's remarks...
"Clinton broke the rules but so what? She is royalty and the rules don't apply to royalty. What are you Americans going to do about it? I'll tell you, you will show up in droves to the voting booths and elect her president, because you're a bunch of idiots."
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Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
Nope. Just for rich and powerful.Ibanez wrote: Unsecured servers housing classified data is now legal.
Comey made sure to make it clear this applied to Clinton and wouldn't apply to others....
To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
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^^This quote is a kick to the collective balls of all Americans.Skjellyfetti wrote:Nope. Just for rich and powerful.Ibanez wrote: Unsecured servers housing classified data is now legal.
Comey made sure to make it clear this applied to Clinton and wouldn't apply to others....
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To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
Skjellyfetti wrote:Nope. Just for rich and powerful.Ibanez wrote: Unsecured servers housing classified data is now legal.
Comey made sure to make it clear this applied to Clinton and wouldn't apply to others....
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To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
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Let's just hope the Guccifer 2.0 leaks are as good as Assange has hinted at...
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I'm just waiting for the disgruntled FBI agents to start leaking all the juicy information we're not allowed to see from this investigation. That shit will be pure gold.Skjellyfetti wrote:Let's just hope the Guccifer 2.0 leaks are as good as Assange has hinted at...
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We absolutely, positively need to be voting third party en masse this November, even if it's for fringe left-wing candidates like Jill Stein. This schit isn't going to stop unless the electorate makes a strong statement in the election.
OF course, we won't do that and Hillary Clinton will win with at least 300 electoral votes, because we're a bunch of idiots who have abdicated our electoral responsibilities.
OF course, we won't do that and Hillary Clinton will win with at least 300 electoral votes, because we're a bunch of idiots who have abdicated our electoral responsibilities.
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Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
Ok, to summarize, Hillary broke the law, but there's no clear evidence that she meant to do so.
She was extremely careless with the handling of 100+ classified emails exposing our secrets to "Foreign Actors", but didn't really leave clear evidence that she wanted to do so.
A person engaging in the behavior above should not avoid consequences for their actions, but the recommendation is that no charges be brought.
WTF? I am disappointed in the findings of my fellow W&M Alumni, but I guess I can't fault him for protecting himself and his family from accidents without clear intent with this finding. Ummm... yes I can.
She was extremely careless with the handling of 100+ classified emails exposing our secrets to "Foreign Actors", but didn't really leave clear evidence that she wanted to do so.
A person engaging in the behavior above should not avoid consequences for their actions, but the recommendation is that no charges be brought.
WTF? I am disappointed in the findings of my fellow W&M Alumni, but I guess I can't fault him for protecting himself and his family from accidents without clear intent with this finding. Ummm... yes I can.
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Not gonna happen. They have careers and their family's well being to think about. You're talking about career gov types, they ain't gonna risk it. The FBI brass didn't have the balls to do anything legit when there was evidence of rules being broken, why bother doing something "back handed" as leaking info when all that will happen is your life (and family's life) being ruined?Baldy wrote:I'm just waiting for the disgruntled FBI agents to start leaking all the juicy information we're not allowed to see from this investigation. That shit will be pure gold.Skjellyfetti wrote:Let's just hope the Guccifer 2.0 leaks are as good as Assange has hinted at...
BTW called it about the indictment (or lack thereof). I expect donks to circle the wagons around this announcement and hilldog will cruise to an easy win now. Hell of a precedent sent today for wealthy entrenched establishment types, hell of a precedent.
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The "party of the poor" will rally to the defense of one of their richest members and representative of everything they claim to "hate about this country".
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That's the quote that really sticks out in all of this. I mean, we all know it's true, but to actually have the FBI say that it's because who she is that they're letting her off here is amazing.Skjellyfetti wrote:Nope. Just for rich and powerful.Ibanez wrote: Unsecured servers housing classified data is now legal.
Comey made sure to make it clear this applied to Clinton and wouldn't apply to others....
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So? That's what Republicans do...ASUG8 wrote:^^This quote is a kick to the collective balls of all Americans.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Nope. Just for rich and powerful.
Comey made sure to make it clear this applied to Clinton and wouldn't apply to others....
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Republicans take care of their own.SDHornet wrote:Not gonna happen. They have careers and their family's well being to think about. You're talking about career gov types, they ain't gonna risk it. The FBI brass didn't have the balls to do anything legit when there was evidence of rules being broken, why bother doing something "back handed" as leaking info when all that will happen is your life (and family's life) being ruined?Baldy wrote:
I'm just waiting for the disgruntled FBI agents to start leaking all the juicy information we're not allowed to see from this investigation. That **** will be pure gold.
BTW called it about the indictment (or lack thereof). I expect donks to circle the wagons around this announcement and hilldog will cruise to an easy win now. Hell of a precedent sent today for wealthy entrenched establishment types, hell of a precedent.
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SDHornet wrote:Not gonna happen. They have careers and their family's well being to think about. You're talking about career gov types, they ain't gonna risk it. The FBI brass didn't have the balls to do anything legit when there was evidence of rules being broken, why bother doing something "back handed" as leaking info when all that will happen is your life (and family's life) being ruined?Baldy wrote:
I'm just waiting for the disgruntled FBI agents to start leaking all the juicy information we're not allowed to see from this investigation. That **** will be pure gold.
BTW called it about the indictment (or lack thereof). I expect donks to circle the wagons around this announcement and hilldog will cruise to an easy win now. Hell of a precedent sent today for wealthy entrenched establishment types, hell of a precedent.
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Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
Is this your response condoning the difference in the rule of law for the wealthy elites or simply an enthusiastic "hell yeah!" for Hillary's acquittal?houndawg wrote:So? That's what Republicans do...ASUG8 wrote:
^^This quote is a kick to the collective balls of all Americans.
I'll go with (c), both of the above.
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Not surprising since you're usually wrong. Simple fact is that the Clintons are just too smart to be caught by Republicans no matter how much smoke surrounds them. That's a damn shame but that's the way it is. A republican director of the CIA cleared her. Even CID said the guy was a straight shooter. Looks like The Clintons once again leave the conks with $7,000,000 worth of egg on their faces.ASUG8 wrote:Is this your response condoning the difference in the rule of law for the wealthy elites or simply an enthusiastic "hell yeah!" for Hillary's acquittal?houndawg wrote:
So? That's what Republicans do...
I'll go with (c), both of the above.
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houndawg wrote:Not surprising since you're usually wrong. Simple fact is that the Clintons are just too smart to be caught by Republicans no matter how much smoke surrounds them. That's a damn shame but that's the way it is. A republican director of the CIA cleared her. Even CID said the guy was a straight shooter. Looks like The Clintons once again leave the conks with $7,000,000 worth of egg on their faces.ASUG8 wrote:
Is this your response condoning the difference in the rule of law for the wealthy elites or simply an enthusiastic "hell yeah!" for Hillary's acquittal?
I'll go with (c), both of the above.
Re: Countdown til Hillary is Officially off the Hook for violating NDA
There is no way of getting around this: According to Director James Comey (disclosure: a former colleague and longtime friend of mine), Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust.
Director Comey even conceded that former Secretary Clinton was “extremely careless” and strongly suggested that her recklessness very likely led to communications (her own and those she corresponded with) being intercepted by foreign intelligence services. Yet, Director Comey recommended against prosecution of the law violations he clearly found on the ground that there was no intent to harm the United States.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 ... llary-hook
This is a good read.
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But according to dumbass houndie, hilldog was too smart to get caught.Ibanez wrote:There is no way of getting around this: According to Director James Comey (disclosure: a former colleague and longtime friend of mine), Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust.
Director Comey even conceded that former Secretary Clinton was “extremely careless” and strongly suggested that her recklessness very likely led to communications (her own and those she corresponded with) being intercepted by foreign intelligence services. Yet, Director Comey recommended against prosecution of the law violations he clearly found on the ground that there was no intent to harm the United States.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... e-thought/Here's the good news for Hillary Clinton: The FBI has recommended no charges be brought followings its investigation of the former secretary of state's private email server.
Here's the bad news: Just about everything else.
FBI Director James Comey dismantled large portions of Clinton's long-told story about her private server and what she sent or received on it during a stirring 15-minute news conference following which he took no questions. While Comey exonerated Clinton legally speaking, he provided huge amounts of fodder that could badly hamstring her in the court of public opinion.
Most importantly, Comey said the FBI found 110 emails on Clinton's server that were classified at the time they were sent or received. That stands in direct contradiction to Clinton's repeated insistence she never sent or received any classified emails. And, it even stands in contrast to her amended statement that she never knowingly sent or received any classified information.
Comey condemned Clinton and her top aides as "extremely careless" in how they handled classified information during her time as the head of the State Department, adding: "Any reasonable person … should have known that an unclassified system was no place" for that sort of information.
There was more — much more. Comey said Clinton had used not one but multiple private email servers during her time at State. He said Clinton used multiple email devices during that time. (She had offered her desire to use a single device for "convenience" as the main reason she set up the private server.) He noted that the lawyers tasked by Clinton with sorting her private emails from her professional ones never actually read all of the emails (as the FBI did in the course of its investigation). Comey said that while the FBI found no evidence that Clinton's private server was hacked by foreign governments, it was possible that it had been. He argued that the Clinton lawyers had deleted emails they marked as personal that contained professional content, and that while the FBI found some of those emails in its investigation, it was certainly possible more existed that they were unable to track down.
It's worth remembering at this point that Clinton and her team deleted more emails than they turned over to the State Department.
It's hard to read Comey's statement as anything other than a wholesale rebuke of the story Clinton and her campaign team have been telling ever since the existence of her private email server came to light in spring 2015. She did send and receive classified emails. The setup did leave her — and the classified information on the server — subject to a possible foreign hack. She and her team did delete emails as personal that contained professional information.
Those are facts, facts delivered by the Justice Department of a Democratic administration. And those facts run absolutely counter to the narrative put forth by the Clinton operation: that this whole thing was a Republican witch-hunt pushed by a bored and adversarial media.
Now for the key question: How much do the FBI findings hurt her campaign?
Clinton did avoid indictment, a ruling that would have effectively ended her campaign or left it so badly weakened that there would have been a major move within Democratic circles to replace her as the nominee.
That said, campaigns aren't governed by the ultimate legality of what Clinton did or didn't do. So, while dodging an indictment is a good thing — she isn't under criminal investigation and remains a candidate — it's a far different thing from being cleared (or even close to it) in the court of public opinion.
For a candidate already badly struggling on questions of whether she is honest and trustworthy enough to hold the office to which she aspires, Comey's comments are devastating. Watching them, I could close my eyes and imagine them spliced into a bevy of 30-second ads — all of which end with the FBI director rebuking Clinton as "extremely careless."
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Even the system knows the limits of your character.Ibanez wrote:I think I was coming up on the character limitCAA Flagship wrote:*off
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