Brexit Thread

[kalm]

I probably make more typo/grammatical errors than anyone on this board (well except Dal maybe and Ibanez when he's drunk) but I'm going to hesitate calling others stupid when I create a paragraph like this.

It's not that it's an egregious mistake, it's your constant corrections of everybody else that makes it funny.

I'm not really expecting you to understand.

BS- Show me where I am constantly correcting someone else's grammar. Not saying I haven't done it before, you might be able to dig up an example or 2, but its rare. Boy, you have a vivid imagination.

Show me where I said you were constantly correcting everyone's GRAMMER.

You correct everyone on everything and your favorite emoji is the dunce.

Irony.

[AZGrizFan]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.

But but but dback INSISTS Obama has been the greatest foreign policy president of our lifetime!

[BDKJMU]

BS- Show me where I am constantly correcting someone else's grammar. Not saying I haven't done it before, you might be able to dig up an example or 2, but its rare. Boy, you have a vivid imagination.

Show me where I said you were constantly correcting everyone's GRAMMER.

You correct everyone on everything and your favorite emoji is the dunce.

Irony.

I've typed it 'grammar' every time.
"According to Cambridge dictionaries, grammar is the ​study or use of the ​rules about how words ​change ​their ​form and ​combine with other words to make sentences. Although it is pronounced grammer the correct spelling is GRAMMAR."

Wrong, I'm not constantly correcting everyone about everything- again I rarely correct anyone on typos or grammar (unless it is something humorous)- only about facts, stats, or opinions, which is being argumentative. It’s mainly what we do on this board.

You are confusing corrections about facts, stats, opinions with corrections about grammar, which is apples to oranges. The fact that you would conflate the 2.

[Grizalltheway]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.

Lol, conks talking about a president getting involved in other countries' business.

[kalm]

Show me where I said you were constantly correcting everyone's GRAMMER.

You correct everyone on everything and your favorite emoji is the dunce.

Irony.

I've typed it 'grammar' every time.
"According to Cambridge dictionaries, grammar is the ​study or use of the ​rules about how words ​change ​their ​form and ​combine with other words to make sentences. Although it is pronounced grammer the correct spelling is GRAMMAR."

Wrong, I'm not constantly correcting everyone about everything- again I rarely correct anyone on typos or grammar (unless it is something humorous)- only about facts, stats, or opinions, which is being argumentative. It’s mainly what we do on this board.

You are confusing corrections about facts, stats, opinions with corrections about grammar, which is apples to oranges. The fact that you would conflate the 2.

Again, I didn't bring up grammAr.

My point is that nearly everyone here knows they are an asshole....

Except you.

[Ibanez]

Did you not refer to someone as a "grammar nazi"?

To someone who pointed out a typo, yeah. 'grammar nazi', 'grammar Nazi' who gives a ****? Just like with the occasional typo.

Your lack of education is concerning.

[BDKJMU]

I've typed it 'grammar' every time.
"According to Cambridge dictionaries, grammar is the ​study or use of the ​rules about how words ​change ​their ​form and ​combine with other words to make sentences. Although it is pronounced grammer the correct spelling is GRAMMAR."

Wrong, I'm not constantly correcting everyone about everything- again I rarely correct anyone on typos or grammar (unless it is something humorous)- only about facts, stats, or opinions, which is being argumentative. It’s mainly what we do on this board.

You are confusing corrections about facts, stats, opinions with corrections about grammar, which is apples to oranges. The fact that you would conflate the 2.

Again, I didn't bring up grammAr.

My point is that nearly everyone here knows they are an asshole....

Except you.

You did bring it up.

And I am well aware I am as much of an asshole as everyone else on here.

[Ibanez]

I probably make more typo/grammatical errors than anyone on this board (well except Dal maybe and Ibanez when he's drunk) but I'm going to hesitate calling others stupid when I create a paragraph like this.

It's not that it's an egregious mistake, it's your constant corrections of everybody else that makes it funny.

I'm not really expecting you to understand.

BS- Show me where I am constantly correcting someone else's grammar. Not saying I haven't done it before, you might be able to dig up an example or 2, but its rare. Boy, you have a vivid imagination.

It's*

[Ibanez]

Show me where I said you were constantly correcting everyone's GRAMMER.

You correct everyone on everything and your favorite emoji is the dunce.

Irony.

I've typed it 'grammar' every time.
"According to Cambridge dictionaries, grammar is the ​study or use of the ​rules about how words ​change ​their ​form and ​combine with other words to make sentences. Although it is pronounced grammer the correct spelling is GRAMMAR."

Wrong, I'm not constantly correcting everyone about everything- again I rarely correct anyone on typos or grammar (unless it is something humorous)- only about facts, stats, or opinions, which is being argumentative. It’s mainly what we do on this board.

You are confusing corrections about facts, stats, opinions with corrections about grammar, which is apples to oranges. The fact that you would conflate the 2.

Your last sentence is a fragment sentence.

[Ibanez]

Again, I didn't bring up grammAr.

My point is that nearly everyone here knows they are an asshole....

Except you.

You did bring it up.

And I am well aware I am as much of an asshole as everyone else on here.

At least you realize and accept that you're an asshole and definitely one of the biggest.

[BDKJMU]

To someone who pointed out a typo, yeah. 'grammar nazi', 'grammar Nazi' who gives a ****? Just like with the occasional typo.

Your lack of education is concerning.

If that is indicative of a lack of education then there is a massive lack of education by a lot of people on this board...

[BDKJMU]

It's*

Your last sentence is a fragment sentence.

So what?

[BDKJMU]

You did bring it up.

And I am well aware I am as much of an asshole as everyone else on here.

At least you realize and accept that you're an asshole and definitely one of the biggest.

To parrot Kalm, nearly everyone accepts they're an asshole on here. Do you?

[AZGrizFan]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.

Lol, conks talking about a president getting involved in other countries' business.

Do we need another review of which party has started the vast majority of wars in this country?


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[Ibanez]

Your lack of education is concerning.

If that is indicative of a lack of education then there is a massive lack of education by a lot of people on this board...

Agreed.

[Ibanez]

It's*

Your last sentence is a fragment sentence.

So what?

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you're an educated person then why wouldn't you want to look, sound and appear educated. Message boards, email, texts, etc...are no reason to be lazy.

[Ibanez]

At least you realize and accept that you're an asshole and definitely one of the biggest.

To parrot Kalm, nearly everyone accepts they're an asshole on here. Do you?

Of course! I minored in Asshology.

[BDKJMU]

So what?

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you're an educated person then why wouldn't you want to look, sound and appear educated. Message boards, email, texts, etc...are no reason to be lazy.

Here's the way I see it.
-If your posts were riddled with typos and grammatical errors I would agree. But this is a very informal means of communication. A typo or grammatical error every few posts (or every couple of paragraphs posted) is no big deal IMHOP.
-I agree on e-mails, a totally different ballgame.
-Texts (I don't do much of) guess it depends on who they are going to.

[kalm]

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you're an educated person then why wouldn't you want to look, sound and appear educated. Message boards, email, texts, etc...are no reason to be lazy.

Here's the way I see it.
-If your posts were riddled with typos and grammatical errors I would agree. But this is a very informal means of communication. A typo or grammatical error every few posts (or every couple of paragraphs posted) is no big deal IMHOP.
-I agree on e-mails, a totally different ballgame.
-Texts (I don't do much of) guess it depends on who they are going to.

Pretty much agree with this.

I try not to judge people on the quality of their grammar...for obvious reasons....

[DSUrocks07]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.

Lol, conks talking about a president getting involved in other countries' business.

Lol, donks defending a president acting like a conk from his bully pulpit.

"BACK OF THE BUS FOR YOU, BRITS!" I mean "UK is going to the back of the queue should they leave"

[Ibanez]

It's a pet peeve of mine. If you're an educated person then why wouldn't you want to look, sound and appear educated. Message boards, email, texts, etc...are no reason to be lazy.

Here's the way I see it.
-If your posts were riddled with typos and grammatical errors I would agree. But this is a very informal means of communication. A typo or grammatical error every few posts (or every couple of paragraphs posted) is no big deal IMHOP.
-I agree on e-mails, a totally different ballgame.
-Texts (I don't do much of) guess it depends on who they are going to.

I agree for the most part.

[OL FU]

You don't get banned for typos. I would have been gone along time before the thumb typing

[OL FU]

Damn I forgot the period.

[JohnStOnge]

Saw some quotes from people that didn't appreciate a foreign leader...funny that's also what I call Obama... getting involved in their business.

Wonder if he's figured out that he just isn't that popular. I sure hope he gets real involved with the fall election.

I think he is important to Hillary's effort for turnout purposes. If he could run for a third term he would absolutely kick Trump's ass. It would not be remotely close.

Right now his RealClearPolitics favorable/unfavorable ratings are 50.5/45.6. That's very good for a President the end of his second term and a WHOLE lot better than either of the two major party nominees. Obama is at +5 while Clinton is at -15.4 and Trump is at Trump is at an incredibly bad -26.9.

The problem for the Democrats is that it's not going to be Obama, who inspired unusually high turnout among non-Whites, running. But they can hope that he can at least serve as a cheerleader to keep that turnout up to some extent. I think Hillary is definitely better off with him engaged than she is without that.

[Skjellyfetti]

Interesting theory...

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

People say a second referendum is unlikely and political suicide. I don't think it is as unlikely as people think. So many who voted Leave now realize what the costs will be and how the Leave campaign has already broken major promises. It's finally sinking in that leaving the EU is going to mean the destruction of the United Kingdom. People now realize that once you leave the EU there is no coming back for decades.

The pressure for a second referendum will keep rising and how can a prime minister deny the will of the people who will want another democratic election. It is still democratic after all and if the people wish to leave the votes would reflect that. Of course the vote will likely heavily go towards Remain now the large chunk of undecided, soft Leave and people who didn't show up (screw them) actually go vote. The whole crisis will be averted and UKIP will have to make peace with that if it goes heavily towards Remain. Even Farrage wanted another referendum if it was 52/48 and that quote is going to haunt him for a long time.

Calling a second referendum might be political suicide for the next Tory prime minister but they are going to commit political suicide taking the position anyway and none of them really want that legacy.