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andy7171 wrote:
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Noah's Ark?
Take that up with JMU_DJ, I'm of the New Covenant.
So you get to pick and chose? Weed out all the b.s.? Sweet!

Too bad DJ doesn't post anymore. He was the one acceptable dude from that school.
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Chizzang wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Maybe you didn't say foolish, but you have plainly implied it. But I'll accept your retraction of your implicit charge.

I'll be the first to say that there is a lot of bureaucracy in any large organization. And with 1.2 billion adherents, Catholicism is one of the world's largest organizations, and therefore one of the largest bureaucracies.

But this is the point a "committed" outsider, repulsed by the bureaucracy, doesn't understand. In those moments of life of deepest despair, or gravest loss, that any individual can experience, the Catholic Church works at its absolute finest, and is probably better than any other institution in the world.

So maybe this will help you understand, despite all the flaws of a large, world-wide organization -- run by imperfect men who themselves frequently get caught up in all the bureaucracy and rules they make up; and, frequently make cowardly decisions that turn out horribly and look even worse in retrospect -- people remain faithful to the Church. No matter what, at its core, the light of Christ shines.
Okee Dokee... I get it
It was important for humans to make up answers for things they didn't understand about the world
We are surrounded by the mysteries of life

Answers make us feel better
Even bullsh!t answers derived from nonsense can still have a soothing effect

Like this for example:
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How the world was made
and our role in the greater universe - life after death - Immortal souls and so forth
These are serious questions that require a little more honesty than just making it up
But we all have to do what works for us

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Well, you still managed to not SAY foolish. :wink:
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kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Take that up with JMU_DJ, I'm of the New Covenant.
So you get to pick and chose? Weed out all the b.s.? Sweet!
No..!!!
The new book nullifies the old book - which is why Christianity has evolved into a peaceful religion

What I'm talking about is things specific to Catholicism that are "made up" stuffs
Things tacked onto Jesus teachings that are pretty much nonsense adders
Things that centralize the power that seem very "unlike" Jesus teachings
which is ultimately how you end up 2,000 years later with something derivative and f*cked-up

:coffee:

There are Jesus teachings
and there is Catholicism
These things are different
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andy7171 wrote:
bandl wrote: Blacks have bigger dicks
Asians are smarter
Women know how to drive

What's the question?
"Why does Cleets have to be smarmily vague all the time?"
Conceals his lack of knowledge.

He's the flip side of Trump.
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kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Take that up with JMU_DJ, I'm of the New Covenant.
So you get to pick and chose? Weed out all the b.s.? Sweet!

Too bad DJ doesn't post anymore. He was the one acceptable dude from that school.
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bandl wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Or was the hot dog analogy a little too deep? :|
I honestly think that's Cleet's best piece of work here. Ever. :nod:

He just went up a notch in my book. :thumb:
Agree, it was top shelf humor there. cleets is always pretty funny to me though cuz I know him and the irreverence comes across more clearly when you have that insight. Glad to see he's climbing the charts in your rankings though.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
bandl wrote: I honestly think that's Cleet's best piece of work here. Ever. :nod:

He just went up a notch in my book. :thumb:
Agree, it was top shelf humor there. cleets is always pretty funny to me though cuz I know him and the irreverence comes across more clearly when you have that insight. Glad to see he's climbing the charts in your rankings though.
I'm going for more of the charming irreverential long play, it's a bold strategy (cotton)

I worry about GATW's game...
He clearly got some talent but he's inconsistent at the plate
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you get to pick and chose? Weed out all the b.s.? Sweet!
No..!!!
The new book nullifies the old book - which is why Christianity has evolved into a peaceful religion

What I'm talking about is things specific to Catholicism that are "made up" stuffs
Things tacked onto Jesus teachings that are pretty much nonsense adders
Things that centralize the power that seem very "unlike" Jesus teachings
which is ultimately how you end up 2,000 years later with something derivative and f*cked-up

:coffee:

There are Jesus teachings
and there is Catholicism
These things are different
So, so far what you've come up with is the idea of saints, which, since it's an acknowledgement of people that either emulated Jesus in their lives or let Jesus shine through them during their lives, sounds pretty much in the ballpark of "Jesus teachings", do you have other stuff that is a better example of being "different" or "something derivative and f*cked-up"? :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you get to pick and chose? Weed out all the b.s.? Sweet!
No..!!!
The new book nullifies the old book - which is why Christianity has evolved into a peaceful religion

What I'm talking about is things specific to Catholicism that are "made up" stuffs
Things tacked onto Jesus teachings that are pretty much nonsense adders
Things that centralize the power that seem very "unlike" Jesus teachings
which is ultimately how you end up 2,000 years later with something derivative and f*cked-up

:coffee:

There are Jesus teachings
and there is Catholicism
These things are different
So you mean Jesus probably wouldn't spend $2 million on New York State civil law legislation?
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Chizzang wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Agree, it was top shelf humor there. cleets is always pretty funny to me though cuz I know him and the irreverence comes across more clearly when you have that insight. Glad to see he's climbing the charts in your rankings though.
I'm going for more of the charming irreverential long play, it's a bold strategy (cotton)

I worry about GATW's game...
He clearly got some talent but he's inconsistent at the plate
When he's motivated though his ceiling is high. Sometimes it is just a long porch to get in the house cuz he hits cruise control and coasts. Can't blame him. Look at the opponents, not gonna keep hm sharp battling with the E. Coasters like he usually does.

Anyway, let's get back to making this thing more Jesusey.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
bandl wrote: I honestly think that's Cleet's best piece of work here. Ever. :nod:

He just went up a notch in my book. :thumb:
Agree, it was top shelf humor there. cleets is always pretty funny to me though cuz I know him and the irreverence comes across more clearly when you have that insight. Glad to see he's climbing the charts in your rankings though.
It's getting moist in here. :ohno: :ohno:

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How many times have we told you not to keep that thing so close to yourself? You're like that asshole with the shrieking mic.
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Grizalltheway wrote:How many times have we told you not to keep that thing so close to yourself? You're like that asshole with the shrieking mic.
By my count, 14 times. What's your point?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:How many times have we told you not to keep that thing so close to yourself? You're like that asshole with the shrieking mic.
By my count, 14 times. What's your point?
Huh?

Sorry, I just imagined cleets getting moist and forgot what we were talking about.
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GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
No..!!!
The new book nullifies the old book - which is why Christianity has evolved into a peaceful religion

What I'm talking about is things specific to Catholicism that are "made up" stuffs
Things tacked onto Jesus teachings that are pretty much nonsense adders
Things that centralize the power that seem very "unlike" Jesus teachings
which is ultimately how you end up 2,000 years later with something derivative and f*cked-up

:coffee:

There are Jesus teachings
and there is Catholicism
These things are different
So, so far what you've come up with is the idea of saints, which, since it's an acknowledgement of people that either emulated Jesus in their lives or let Jesus shine through them during their lives, sounds pretty much in the ballpark of "Jesus teachings", do you have other stuff that is a better example of being "different" or "something derivative and f*cked-up"? :coffee:
not sure if serious... :suspicious:

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A beautiful monument celebrating Gods glory, not in the pockets of the higher ups. How is this different that the Cowboys stadium? Besides the admission. And what about honoring Saints now?


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Which is more humorous? Ursus denying the PL fans on the EC. Or putting wee-tag on the pedestal?


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I see what you mean now Ursus. I'll never make the big leagues if all I have to work on is speed bags like Simple Andy. :ohno:
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andy7171 wrote:A beautiful monument celebrating Gods glory, not in the pockets of the higher ups. How is this different that the Cowboys stadium? Besides the admission. And what about honoring Saints now?


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This just turned too nerdish for me.


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Grizalltheway wrote:I see what you mean now Ursus. I'll never make the big leagues if all I have to work on is speed bags like Simple Andy. :ohno:
Yeah, you can throw em' an ass beating every now and then just for fun but if it is all you are working out on it's just not gonna tighten up your game at all.

I do think it is fairly benevolent of you to play with Mongo (andy) and let him feel part of it all though. Some good can come out of it for them.

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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:I see what you mean now Ursus. I'll never make the big leagues if all I have to work on is speed bags like Simple Andy. :ohno:
Yeah, you can throw em' an ass beating every now and then just for fun but if it is all you are working out on it's just not gonna tighten up your game at all.

I do think it is fairly benevolent of you to play with Mongo (andy) and let him feel part of it all though. Some good can come out of it for them.

:ohno:

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Chizzang wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Yeah, you can throw em' an ass beating every now and then just for fun but if it is all you are working out on it's just not gonna tighten up your game at all.

I do think it is fairly benevolent of you to play with Mongo (andy) and let him feel part of it all though. Some good can come out of it for them.

:ohno:

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Chizzang wrote:
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So, so far what you've come up with is the idea of saints, which, since it's an acknowledgement of people that either emulated Jesus in their lives or let Jesus shine through them during their lives, sounds pretty much in the ballpark of "Jesus teachings", do you have other stuff that is a better example of being "different" or "something derivative and f*cked-up"? :coffee:
not sure if serious... :suspicious:

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Of course I'm serious and apparently still waiting. :coffee:

As for the picture, eh, it's a picture. What is it, when was it built, etc. Some details would be good to have, if you're serious of course. And like Andy said, at least you don't need personal seat licenses to enjoy it.
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