Example of the way Trump lies

[JohnStOnge]

A few days ago he said he would "renegotiate" the national debt:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 0%8B-back/

"Do you believe that we, in terms of the United States, need to pay a hundred cents on the dollar, or do you think that there's actually ways that we can renegotiate that debt?" CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin asked him.

"Yeah, I think — look, I have borrowed, knowing that you can pay back with discounts. And I have done very well,

Criticism and ridicule were immediate. So this morning he was on CNN trying to claim he didn't actually say what he said:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-bac ... NlYwNzYw--

“I said if we can buy back government debt at a discount -- in other words if interest rates go up and we can buy bonds back at a discount -- if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that,” he said.

That's not at all what he said. Answering "yeah" to the question of whether we can renegotiate debts then saying "I have borrowed knowing you can pay back with discounts" is not saying what he claims he said. Saying "you can pay back with discounts" is not saying "we can buy back government debt at a discount." The lying SOB was lying....again. And he does that crap all the time. He says something stupid or obviously untrue and tries to claim he never said it.

[kalm]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

[andy7171]

Holy shit, another Trump thread.

[ASUG8]

John, you hate Trump, we get it. It was clearly communicated in one of the other 30 threads I didn't read. Vote Hillary and ease your conscience in November.

[OL FU]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

I will be the first to admit that it is uncharted territory, but we aren't other countries. Now I guess you can argue honestly in that we may have to do that some day and if so, so be it.


But that is going to be an ugly day

[Ibanez]

John, you hate Trump, we get it. It was clearly communicated in one of the other 30 threads I didn't read. Vote Hillary and ease your conscience in November.

Whoa! 30 threads? By my count, we're up to 17.

[YoUDeeMan]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

I will be the first to admit that it is uncharted territory, but we aren't other countries. Now I guess you can argue honestly in that we may have to do that some day and if so, so be it.


But that is going to be an ugly day

An ugly day for some...a brilliant day of sunshine for most people.

Change is good...where is your spirit?

[JohnStOnge]

John, you hate Trump, we get it. It was clearly communicated in one of the other 30 threads I didn't read. Vote Hillary and ease your conscience in November.

Good heavens, ASU. He is a compulsive liar. That's the point.

Well, there are other points. He is totally unqualified. He is probably mentally ill. All sorts of things.

But the fact that he is a compulsive liar is the point of this thread.

[Ibanez]

John, you hate Trump, we get it. It was clearly communicated in one of the other 30 threads I didn't read. Vote Hillary and ease your conscience in November.

Good heavens, ASU. He is a compulsive liar. That's the point.

Well, there are other points. He is totally unqualified. He is probably mentally ill. All sorts of things.

But the fact that he is a compulsive liar is the point of this thread.

So is Clinton? What's your point?? I'd submit that Clinton is worst.

[kalm]

Good heavens, ASU. He is a compulsive liar. That's the point.

Well, there are other points. He is totally unqualified. He is probably mentally ill. All sorts of things.

But the fact that he is a compulsive liar is the point of this thread.

So is Clinton? What's your point?? I'd submit that Clinton is worst.

* worse

[CAA Flagship]

So is Clinton? What's your point?? I'd submit that Clinton is worst.

* worse

*fuckingcunt

[Ibanez]

So is Clinton? What's your point?? I'd submit that Clinton is worst.

* worse

I had that written. I'll admit, I often forget when to use worst vs. worse.

[kalm]

* worse

*fuckingcunt

I guarantee you that I'm corrected more than anyone on this board.



Directional school!!!

[JohnStOnge]

So is Clinton? What's your point?? I'd submit that Clinton is worst.

Trump is worse than Clinton is in that area and if you don't concede that you're just not being objective. You're buying into the "received wisdom" instead of trying to look objectively at the information out there.

Like Politifact. You will ignore the analysis based on ad hominem argument. You will ignore the fact that the frequency of false statements made by Trump DWARFS the frequency of false statements made by Clinton.

Can you cite any type of analysis along the lines of what Politifact does supporting your view that Clinton lies more than Trump does?

[Ivytalk]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

But where will Trump find the liquidity to "refinance" the national debt by buying it back at a discount?

[YoUDeeMan]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

But where will Trump find the liquidity to "refinance" the national debt by buying it back at a discount?

More importantly, where the eff are you in the gawdamned Elimination poll?

[Ivytalk]

But where will Trump find the liquidity to "refinance" the national debt by buying it back at a discount?

More importantly, where the eff are you in the gawdamned Elimination poll?

Check it out!

[YoUDeeMan]

More importantly, where the eff are you in the gawdamned Elimination poll?

Check it out!

[kalm]

Again...I scooped you with this story already. Countries restructuring debt has happened before. The only difference now is how it's all pegged to our currency. Unchartered territory to an extent but it's not as of any of the masters of the universe clearly understand it either.

Fail.

But where will Trump find the liquidity to "refinance" the national debt by buying it back at a discount?

Like I said...ask your boy Blankfein...

[Ivytalk]

But where will Trump find the liquidity to "refinance" the national debt by buying it back at a discount?

Like I said...ask your boy Blankfein...

Yeah? And where would HE find the liquidity? On Hillary's server?

[JohnStOnge]

Now he's lying about what he said about the Muslim ban thing. And if you've been watching the news you know what I'm talking about.

What really gets me is how you see the Trump surrogates say, when he lies about what he said earlier, that he's "clarifying" what he said.

How stupid do people have to be to trust and/or vote for this guy? It's just unbelievable. The fact that this abomination has traction demonstrates that We, the People, deserve being screwed. We routinely ask for it.

[JohnStOnge]

You know this thing with Trump lying about him being the voice on that thing where he long ago pretended to be a publicist instead of himself isn't all THAT much. Except he's lying again. And even more except if you listen to what the conversation was about you once again see the guy has some issues. He had to talk about what a stud he is and how Maples really wanted him, etc., etc. The guy is a sick puppy.

[JohnStOnge]

Watching Wolf Blitzer talk to a Trump Cultist about the pretending to be somebody else thing. Trump Cultist says it's a trivial matter. Blitzer says the matter itself might be trivial but the question is one of whether he lied on national television.

WTF? The guy lies on national television ALL THE TIME. Why all of a sudden did THIS incident make somebody start thinking about that?

Hopefully the media will launch into an obsession with just how MUCH this guy lies because that is really fertile ground. The target rich environment thing.

[Pwns]

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pr ... eny-2016-5

LoL. Trump doesn't lie like a politician. He lies like a 7-year-old.

[houndawg]

* worse

I had that written. I'll admit, I often forget when to use worst vs. worse.

In this case they're both correct...