2016 Republican Primary

[JohnStOnge]

Another thing: I was one who railed against stereotyping of Republican voters. They were portrayed as being irrational, etc. I always argued against that. Now I am forced to admit that those who were saying those things were right. We have had a great experiment. A candidate who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and just demagogues and engages in ad hominem attacks came forth. Surely nobody with a living brain cell would vote for him.

But lots of Republican primary voters did vote for him. There is no defending Republican voters now.

[93henfan]

Losing hurts.

[∞∞∞]

It really doesn't matter. With Trump's victory tonight, it's simply best for Sanders to end his campaign. It's obviously going to be Clinton vs. Trump...both parties need to start focusing on the GE.

Bernie is done after this. Keep fighting!

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

[DSUrocks07]

I vote that for the next four years, any post that JSO makes regarding Hillary and the Democrats in a negative light automatically get the HI5 treatment ala spanos

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[93henfan]

Man. My new signature is a tad big. I need to tone that shit down.

Tomorrow.

[93henfan]

Bernie is done after this. Keep fighting!

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

Oh come now. Don't try to play the underdog.

Hillary has fashioned herself the heir to the throne for eight years.

If Trump can somehow beat that machine, I will literally dance in the street.

[DSUrocks07]

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

Oh come now. Don't try to play the underdog.

Hillary has fashioned herself the heir to the throne for eight years.

If Trump can somehow beat that machine, I will literally dance in the street.

If Trump wins in November, I will do the Rocky run in Philadelphia in USA boxers.

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[JohnStOnge]

Losing hurts.

No, what hurts is realizing that we do have a serious problem with the mental capacity of the Republican electorate, and the Republican electorate was the only thing standing in resistance to the continued degradation fostered by the Democratic Party.

There is very little hope if the people associated with the only real stem to Democratic Party power are going to do something as stupid as this.

[Ibanez]

Another thing: I was one who railed against stereotyping of Republican voters. They were portrayed as being irrational, etc. I always argued against that. Now I am forced to admit that those who were saying those things were right. We have had a great experiment. A candidate who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and just demagogues and engages in ad hominem attacks came forth. Surely nobody with a living brain cell would vote for him.

But lots of Republican primary voters did vote for him. There is no defending Republican voters now.

John, glad to see you finally realizing this. I think what's worse is that so many people voted for someone other than the best candidate, Kasich.


My wife just told me, regarding Trump, "A good screw to clear our heads."

[93henfan]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

[Ibanez]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

True.

[kalm]

Bernie is done after this. Keep fighting!

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

You could be right and we shall see. I hope the opposite and that Bernie sits out along with his support.

[DSUrocks07]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

This.

The fact that first Bush was pushed by the establishment as the "ideal candidate", then cardboard Rubio, then religious demigod Cruz, and Kasich was never supported by them because he "was too moderate", only shows that the establishment is just as culpable as the Trump voters for the current division that exists.

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[JohnStOnge]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

Either would have been a much, much better choice than Trump. But I understand that you, as a Trump fan, have suspended your critical thinking skills for the time being. If you were thinking rationally you wouldn't be a Trump fan. I understand that.

[DSUrocks07]

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

You could be right and we shall see. I hope the opposite and that Bernie sits out along with his support.

after everything and all the hubbub, if Sanders all of a sudden flips and supports Hillary like a good little lap dog, then IMO it only shows that the Democratic primary was all a setup. Either that or Sanders is a sell out and would actually piss off a lot of his supporters.

Sanders being Hilldog's VP would be the absolute WORST decision she could make.

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[93henfan]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

This.

The fact that first Bush was pushed by the establishment as the "ideal candidate", then cardboard Rubio, then religious demigod Cruz, and Kasich was never supported by them because he "was too moderate", only shows that the establishment is just as culpable as the Trump voters for the current division that exists.

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[DSUrocks07]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

Either would have been a much, much better choice than Trump. But I understand that you, as a Trump fan, have suspended your critical thinking skills for the time being. If you were thinking rationally you wouldn't be a Trump fan. I understand that.

Now who's being the irrational one?

The fact that you consider Bush or Cruz to be legitimate candidates exposes YOUR ideals moreso than anything else.

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[93henfan]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

Either would have been a much, much better choice than Trump. But I understand that you, as a Trump fan, have suspended your critical thinking skills for the time being. If you were thinking rationally you wouldn't be a Trump fan. I understand that.

Trump is playing this election cycle like a maestro. He knows what he's doing, and he is not as dumb as you think he is.

[Ibanez]

They were smart enough not to nominate a lackey like Bush or a religious tea bagger wacko like Cruz.

This.

The fact that first Bush was pushed by the establishment as the "ideal candidate", then cardboard Rubio, then religious demigod Cruz, and Kasich was never supported by them because he "was too moderate", only shows that the establishment is just as culpable as the Trump voters for the current division that exists.

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Republicans can only blame themselves for Trump. The Democrats were smart enough to smart with a small field. 17 people was a circus. It diluted the pool and the "wrong" person was left standing.

[∞∞∞]

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

You could be right and we shall see. I hope the opposite and that Bernie sits out along with his support.

This isn't anything new; he's already said (multiple times) he'll support her. She's said the same. It's been a spirited campaign, but certainly not as hateful and childish as the GOP's. They both respect each other despite their differences...you know...like adults

[93henfan]

Let me go back to a Bill Clinton mantra:

It's the economy stupid.

Trump is going to use a Clintonism to beat a Clinton.

Trade is going to be Trump's bread and butter issue. American working people are ANGRY about the results of Clinton's signature NAFTA and other trade policies that sent their jobs to Mexico and China.

Hillary has NO answer for that. Hell, she's now doing damage control in W VA with her past remarks about coal.

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID

[DSUrocks07]

Either would have been a much, much better choice than Trump. But I understand that you, as a Trump fan, have suspended your critical thinking skills for the time being. If you were thinking rationally you wouldn't be a Trump fan. I understand that.

Trump is playing this election cycle like a maestro. He knows what he's doing, and he is not as dumb as you think he is.

He knows how the game is played.

To win a major party's nomination you have to cater to the extremist wing in the party.

Fox News put out a stat that 10% of registered Republicans are voting in the primaries and 9% of registered Democrats are voting in the primaries.

This is why Sanders is doing so well on the Dems side. And Trump knew that going in.

But to win the general, you have to pull the moderates and independents. So I fully expect Trump to move a lot more towards the middle. Moreso than I think Clinton is able to do.

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[∞∞∞]

Let me go back to a Bill Clinton mantra:

It's the economy stupid.

Trump is going to use a Clintonism to beat a Clinton.

Trade is going to be Trump's bread and butter issue. American working people are ANGRY about the results of Clinton's signature NAFTA and other trade policies that sent their jobs to Mexico and China.

Hillary has NO answer for that. Hell, she's now doing damage control in W VA with her past remarks about coal.

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID

I think you'll be surprised how much social issues will matter in this campaign. She already polls well against Trump in traditionally red sourhern states. And for the first time ever, Millenials and GenX will combined outnumber the Boomers/Greatest generations in an election. The former ranks social issues as a priority over the economy; the latter ranks economy. It's certainly an interesting divide.

[93henfan]

And if you're putting social issues ahead of the US economy, you're not very sharp.

[JohnStOnge]

You guys don't get it. Trump is mentally ill. He cannot control himself. It's not that he's been far right in the primaries. It's that his strategy has been to just insult people and say wild ass stuff that has no relationship to reality. And for some reason a sufficient number of Republican primary voters have responded to that.