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As long as it's Kasich that emerged, I wouldn't mind. Trump or Kasich are OK with me. Anyone but Lyin' Ted.
Do you not realize that Trump lies with much greater frequency than Cruz does? Also, do you not realize that Trump has the emotional maturity and self control level of a child and you are talking about making him President of the Untied States?

Trump is lying right now, for instance, when he says that Cruz has been mathematically eliminated. The objective truth is that Cruz is not mathematically eliminated unless and until Trump has 1237 delegates obligated to vote for him on the first ballot.

Trump knows that. He is lying. And he lies all the time. ALL the time. He's WAY worse than Cruz and anybody else in the race for that matter when it comes to that.
I don't believe any of the Lyin' Ted talking points you just recited.
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[quot]I don't believe any of the Lyin' Ted talking points you just recited.[/quote]

You know very well it's not just Ted Cruz. Here's an article describing an earlier debate:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/3451/so-w ... en-shapiro

A quote:
Trump lies routinely and repeatedly. On Saturday night, Trump said that George W. Bush had lied America into war in Iraq; two days later, he told Mike Gallagher that he’d never said that. Both were lies. He called Ted Cruz a liar in debate after Cruz said Trump supported funding Planned Parenthood – but Trump does support funding Planned Parenthood’s “non-abortion services,” a completely nonsensical position. During the debate, Trump claimed that Cruz operatives were calling people to tell them that he was dropping out of the race; he’s provided no evidence of that assertion. During the debate, Trump said that he had warned that an Iraq war would “destabilize” the Middle East – it never happened.
And the bottom line:
So, here’s the conclusion: both Rubio and Cruz are playing hard-nosed politics. They both nitpick each other’s record in usual political fashion, exaggerating here and there for effect. There’s nothing out of the ordinary going on in either campaign, although it’s certainly ugly up close.

Then there’s Trump.

Trump lives moment to moment, and he’ll disown his own comments as though they never happened. He switches positions based on what’s convenient, and he falsely accuses his opponents of lying about him.

If there’s a Big Fat Liar in this campaign, there’s little doubt who it is. And it isn’t either Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz.
But I realize that as a Trump supporter you have suspended your critical thought process and find ways to deny reality when it comes to the obvious problems associated with the candidate of your choice. It's some kind of social psychological phenomenon going on where a substantial number of people are buying what this guy's selling even though he's pretty obviously one of the biggest charlatans of all time. That and he's emotionally ill.
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Here's one from back in August. By a Liberal, yes. But still:

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/offi ... candidate/
Donald Trump is a perfect example of this. According to the well-respected and non-partisan fact-checking site Politifact, practically nothing of substance that he says is actually true.
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And here's one from a Politifact guy:
Donald J. Trump’s record on truth and accuracy is astonishingly poor.
So, no, it's not just Cruz talking points. Trump lies practically every time he opens his mouth. But the Trump zombies just suck it right up.

Well...I guess I should allow that he might not be lying every time. A lot of it could be that he just doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. But I don't see how that's much better. Either way what he says has very little relationship to reality.
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I still think Cruz is worse. And Hillary is worser.
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JohnStOnge wrote:[quot]I don't believe any of the Lyin' Ted talking points you just recited.
You know very well it's not just Ted Cruz. Here's an article describing an earlier debate:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/3451/so-w ... en-shapiro

A quote:
Trump lies routinely and repeatedly. On Saturday night, Trump said that George W. Bush had lied America into war in Iraq; two days later, he told Mike Gallagher that he’d never said that. Both were lies. He called Ted Cruz a liar in debate after Cruz said Trump supported funding Planned Parenthood – but Trump does support funding Planned Parenthood’s “non-abortion services,” a completely nonsensical position. During the debate, Trump claimed that Cruz operatives were calling people to tell them that he was dropping out of the race; he’s provided no evidence of that assertion. During the debate, Trump said that he had warned that an Iraq war would “destabilize” the Middle East – it never happened.
And the bottom line:
So, here’s the conclusion: both Rubio and Cruz are playing hard-nosed politics. They both nitpick each other’s record in usual political fashion, exaggerating here and there for effect. There’s nothing out of the ordinary going on in either campaign, although it’s certainly ugly up close.

Then there’s Trump.

Trump lives moment to moment, and he’ll disown his own comments as though they never happened. He switches positions based on what’s convenient, and he falsely accuses his opponents of lying about him.

If there’s a Big Fat Liar in this campaign, there’s little doubt who it is. And it isn’t either Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz.
But I realize that as a Trump supporter you have suspended your critical thought process and find ways to deny reality when it comes to the obvious problems associated with the candidate of your choice. It's some kind of social psychological phenomenon going on where a substantial number of people are buying what this guy's selling even though he's pretty obviously one of the biggest charlatans of all time. That and he's emotionally ill.[/quote]
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