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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Cluck U wrote:Yeah, honest, major media coverage. I am sure that picture was blasted across ABC at the top of the hour, right? And it was followed with a lengthy, honest discussion of the war, right? :lol:
I'm sure it wasn't and I wouldn't want it to be. I didn't do a good job letting you know that I posted that in response to:
You must not watch the news...there are pictures, and stories, of shootings and dead people on the news all the time.
As you've pointed out, you won't see this on network news.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The day that every Senator and significant political figure in the system
willingly sends their own sons to the FRONT to fight and die
is that day I change my mind...

Until then ^
ones willingness to die for Uranium rights or backdoor political agendas shouldn't be questioned
Just because Grizfanstuckinutah is a true believer and calls detractors cowards - so what

I would wager grizfanstuckinutah wouldn't send his kid to fight and die for Google...
but in the end its just exactly that


:nod:
That's a fun old trope

but since less than 1% of Americans actually serve I'd say that's unrealistic (and that's a kind term)

I believe, anecdotally speaking, that in the last three "wars", Congresscritters with children serving have actually been more than 1% of the total number of members of Congress

But I do like the logical bottom of your rabbit hole- that citizenship and the franchise should be dependent on national service
What does it matter what percentage of people serve? :suspicious:

If some clown is talking trash and says we're going to war, then let him and his friends and family go to war. Put some skin in the game. Load them up first, send them to fight, and if they need reinforcements, then the rest of us who are remaining can decide if we want to continue that fight...or maybe we'l come up with another way.

If the bad guys really are knocking down the door, I'm sure we'll manage to find fighters. Until then, first send in the clowns that are clamoring for others to die so easily.
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Chizzang wrote:The day that every Senator and significant political figure in the system
willingly sends their own sons to the FRONT to fight and die

is that day I change my mind...

Until then ^
ones willingness to die for Uranium rights or backdoor political agendas shouldn't be questioned
Just because Grizfanstuckinutah is a true believer and calls detractors cowards - so what

I would wager grizfanstuckinutah wouldn't send his kid to fight and die for Google...
but in the end its just exactly that


:nod:
:dunce: No parent can "send their sons to the front (unless they were a general and their son was already in the military (and they would likely have to be in a combat arms MOS to be ("at the front") To serve in the military they have to be legal adults (18). Parents can't order their legal adult children to volunteer for the military, much less serve at the front..
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Cluck U wrote:
89Hen wrote: Try again Cluckster.
Wait, what is that language on the screen...Ebonics? :suspicious:

Yeah, honest, major media coverage. I am sure that picture was blasted across ABC at the top of the hour, right? And it was followed with a lengthy, honest discussion of the war, right? :lol:

Say, what happened to the evening death toll? Oh, wait...those were only our deaths under Bushitler McWaterboardburton's tenure.

Gotcha'. :thumb:
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Cluck U wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That's a fun old trope

but since less than 1% of Americans actually serve I'd say that's unrealistic (and that's a kind term)

I believe, anecdotally speaking, that in the last three "wars", Congresscritters with children serving have actually been more than 1% of the total number of members of Congress

But I do like the logical bottom of your rabbit hole- that citizenship and the franchise should be dependent on national service
What does it matter what percentage of people serve? :suspicious:

If some clown is talking trash and says we're going to war, then let him and his friends and family go to war. Put some skin in the game. Load them up first, send them to fight, and if they need reinforcements, then the rest of us who are remaining can decide if we want to continue that fight...or maybe we'l come up with another way.

If the bad guys really are knocking down the door, I'm sure we'll manage to find fighters. Until then, first send in the clowns that are clamoring for others to die so easily.
my point, which you didnt get, was that congresspeople DO send their kids to war- at a higher percentage than the national average of people who serve overall

in other words, what clitz said:

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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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CID1990 wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
What does it matter what percentage of people serve? :suspicious:

If some clown is talking trash and says we're going to war, then let him and his friends and family go to war. Put some skin in the game. Load them up first, send them to fight, and if they need reinforcements, then the rest of us who are remaining can decide if we want to continue that fight...or maybe we'l come up with another way.

If the bad guys really are knocking down the door, I'm sure we'll manage to find fighters. Until then, first send in the clowns that are clamoring for others to die so easily.
my point, which you didnt get, was that congresspeople DO send their kids to war- at a higher percentage than the national average of people who serve overall

in other words, what clitz said:
Oh, I got that. :nod:

Not enough.

What you didn't get is that the SOB's who vote to approve any armed forces actions should also serve up the rest of their families, including themselves...on the front lines (not some cushy, off-the-front position)...before anyone else should go.

435 House members, and 100 Senators. Add in the Prez. That's 536 people who, if they voted to approve armed action, should be directly involved in prosecuting their war. They should have the balls to lead the fight.

My bet is that we would not be in the Middle East right now...nor Afghanistan.

And some profitable arms dealers and suppliers would be unhappy.
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The day that every Senator and significant political figure in the system
willingly sends their own sons to the FRONT to fight and die

is that day I change my mind...

Until then ^
ones willingness to die for Uranium rights or backdoor political agendas shouldn't be questioned
Just because Grizfanstuckinutah is a true believer and calls detractors cowards - so what

I would wager grizfanstuckinutah wouldn't send his kid to fight and die for Google...
but in the end its just exactly that


:nod:
:dunce: No parent can "send their sons to the front (unless they were a general and their son was already in the military (and they would likely have to be in a combat arms MOS to be ("at the front") To serve in the military they have to be legal adults (18). Parents can't order their legal adult children to volunteer for the military, much less serve at the front..
That's ^ adorable but also actually wrong...
My dad was in the military for 22 years and will help you
if you have more questions after reading this

Fact:
Any Politicians son who wanted to go the front could be moved there in a matter of hours
Just as easily as he could be hidden away in the guard somewhere off the coast of Rhode Island

The End...
Let me know if you need anything else

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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Cluck U wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
my point, which you didnt get, was that congresspeople DO send their kids to war- at a higher percentage than the national average of people who serve overall

in other words, what clitz said:
Oh, I got that. :nod:

Not enough.

What you didn't get is that the SOB's who vote to approve any armed forces actions should also serve up the rest of their families, including themselves...on the front lines (not some cushy, off-the-front position)...before anyone else should go.

435 House members, and 100 Senators. Add in the Prez. That's 536 people who, if they voted to approve armed action, should be directly involved in prosecuting their war. They should have the balls to lead the fight.


My bet is that we would not be in the Middle East right now...nor Afghanistan.

And some profitable arms dealers and suppliers would be unhappy.
:suspicious: Newsflash- old guys (alot in their 50s-70s) are too old to befront line guys like infantryman. The only thing they could do is a off the front position..

As far as their families, to serve you have to be at least 18. How would they force adult relatives to enlist? :?
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
:dunce: No parent can "send their sons to the front (unless they were a general and their son was already in the military (and they would likely have to be in a combat arms MOS to be ("at the front") To serve in the military they have to be legal adults (18). Parents can't order their legal adult children to volunteer for the military, much less serve at the front..
That's ^ adorable but also actually wrong...
My dad was in the military for 22 years and will help you
if you have more questions after reading this

Fact:
Any Politicians son who wanted to go the front could be moved there in a matter of hours
Just as easily as he could be hidden away in the guard somewhere off the coast of Rhode Island

The End...
Let me know if you need anything else

:coffee:
Fact- guys in their 50s to 70s (majority of Congress) are too old to serve on the front.

Newsflash- NAM (and the draft) ended over 40 years ago. The guys being sent to the front VOLUNTEERED to join the military. No one forced the to enlist. You act like their still is a draft going on.
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Re: Western Media Propaganda

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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
That's ^ adorable but also actually wrong...
My dad was in the military for 22 years and will help you
if you have more questions after reading this

Fact:
Any Politicians son who wanted to go the front could be moved there in a matter of hours
Just as easily as he could be hidden away in the guard somewhere off the coast of Rhode Island

The End...
Let me know if you need anything else

:coffee:
Fact- guys in their 50s to 70s (majority of Congress) are too old to serve on the front.

Newsflash- NAM ended over 40 years ago. The guys being sent to the front VOLUNTEERED. No one forced the to join the military. You act like people are forced to be deployed through a draft.

The end.
Let me know if you need anything else.. :coffee:

You're madly dancing backwards... ^
also - check your reading comprehension (see: Politicians sons)

Everything I said in my post is just a plain old fact
The gibberish you're posting - are for reasons unclear - but have not changed the facts of my post

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Cluck U wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
my point, which you didnt get, was that congresspeople DO send their kids to war- at a higher percentage than the national average of people who serve overall

in other words, what clitz said:
Oh, I got that. :nod:

Not enough.

What you didn't get is that the SOB's who vote to approve any armed forces actions should also serve up the rest of their families, including themselves...on the front lines (not some cushy, off-the-front position)...before anyone else should go.

435 House members, and 100 Senators. Add in the Prez. That's 536 people who, if they voted to approve armed action, should be directly involved in prosecuting their war. They should have the balls to lead the fight.

My bet is that we would not be in the Middle East right now...nor Afghanistan.

And some profitable arms dealers and suppliers would be unhappy.
NOW I know why Clizzaurus posted this silliness

he was actually trolling to see who would double down on the silly
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Fact- guys in their 50s to 70s (majority of Congress) are too old to serve on the front.

Newsflash- NAM ended over 40 years ago. The guys being sent to the front VOLUNTEERED. No one forced the to join the military. You act like people are forced to be deployed through a draft.

The end.
Let me know if you need anything else.. :coffee:

You're madly dancing backwards... ^
also - check your reading comprehension (see: Politicians sons)

Everything I said in my post is just a plain old fact
The gibberish you're posting - are for reasons unclear - but have not changed the facts of my post

:kisswink:
So what? Only a small fraction of Congress has sons currently serving in the military so your point is both silly and worthless..
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CID1990 wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
Oh, I got that. :nod:

Not enough.

What you didn't get is that the SOB's who vote to approve any armed forces actions should also serve up the rest of their families, including themselves...on the front lines (not some cushy, off-the-front position)...before anyone else should go.

435 House members, and 100 Senators. Add in the Prez. That's 536 people who, if they voted to approve armed action, should be directly involved in prosecuting their war. They should have the balls to lead the fight.

My bet is that we would not be in the Middle East right now...nor Afghanistan.

And some profitable arms dealers and suppliers would be unhappy.
NOW I know why Clizzaurus posted this silliness

he was actually trolling to see who would double down on the silly
Silly only because it's unrealistic, right? :?
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
NOW I know why Clizzaurus posted this silliness

he was actually trolling to see who would double down on the silly
Silly only because it's unrealistic, right? :?
Because it is a poor man's populist argument

I'd expect as much out of a Trump
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Silly only because it's unrealistic, right? :?
Because it is a poor man's populist argument

I'd expect as much out of a Trump
Well...most populists are poor men.
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Cluck and Chizz whacking off to old Jane Fonda speeches. You guys are funny.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

You're madly dancing backwards... ^
also - check your reading comprehension (see: Politicians sons)

Everything I said in my post is just a plain old fact
The gibberish you're posting - are for reasons unclear - but have not changed the facts of my post

:kisswink:
So what? Only a small fraction of Congress has sons currently serving in the military so your point is both silly and worthless..
That's the first honest response from you yet ^
And when I say "yet" I mean since I've been reading your posts on this forum

and CID1990 won't always be around to help you and give you an out like this
But I would - if I were you - look at his work on here more closely

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89Hen wrote:Cluck and Chizz whacking off to old Jane Fonda speeches. You guys are funny.
Patriotism is like Christianity
It requires a level of brainwashing and servitude you seem to come by fairly easily

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:Cluck and Chizz whacking off to old Jane Fonda speeches. You guys are funny.
Patriotism is like Christianity
It requires a level of brainwashing and servitude you seem to come by fairly easily

:kisswink:
That really hurts Chizz. :roll:
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