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Seen this crap already with Jesse Ventura and Al Franken in Minnesota. Celebrity President next.

Re: Super Tuesday 2016
Update:Ibanez wrote:GOP: Delegates needed to win nomination: 1,237 (2,472 total)
Trump - 82
Cruz - 17
Rubio - 16
Kasich - 6
Carson -4
Democratic Party: Delegates needed to win nomination: 2,382 (4,051 Pledged/712 Super Delegates)
Clinton:90 Pledged/453 Super Delegates
Sanders: 65 Pledge/ 20 Super Delegates
Trump - 285
Cruz - 161
Rubio - 87
Kasich - 25
Carson - 8
Clinton: 544 Pledged
Sanders: 349 Pledged
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Clinton picked up 453.Ibanez wrote:I say Clinton picks up at least 450 delegates.
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Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.kalm wrote:Cruz and Rubio are stealing votes from Kasich. They need to get out of the way.AZGrizFan wrote:Kasich with more 2nd place finishes than Rubio today. Interesting. Is the voting public coming around?
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.
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Re: Super Tuesday 2016
You just watch your mooooouuuuuuth mister!GannonFan wrote:Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.kalm wrote:
Cruz and Rubio are stealing votes from Kasich. They need to get out of the way.
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.
Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
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Odd no one mentioning Trump's appearance last night. When was the last time you saw a candidate, on election night, do something other than a rehashed stump speech in front of thousands of committed fans and donors? Gotta hand it to Trump, he comes out and does a press conference and even takes questions from reporters. He's proving again that in the era of reality TV, he's supremely positioned to do well in it. He's a candidate with tons of flaws, but it's amazing how the size of his personality is covering up a lot of them.
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He's been that guy all along. Sneaky, like used car salesman sneaky. I feel like I need a shower after watching him speak.GannonFan wrote:Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.kalm wrote:
Cruz and Rubio are stealing votes from Kasich. They need to get out of the way.
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.
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Kasich is the best choice ( I stated that in July).kalm wrote:You just watch your mooooouuuuuuth mister!GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.![]()
Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
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I likened Cruz to Joe Isuzu early on. National Review has said that his "oleaginous delivery" reminds them of a repo man for used Chevy Vegas!ASUG8 wrote:He's been that guy all along. Sneaky, like used car salesman sneaky. I feel like I need a shower after watching him speak.GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.
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Did someone say Kasich and Carson were stealing votes from Cruz? I highly doubt that.kalm wrote:Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
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I think it depends on the state. In Iowa many of the Carson votes were evangelical types. If Carson wasn't in I think the majority of those votes would have went to Cruz. That's why the Cruz people were pushing the "Carson is dropping out" message in the hours before the caucus. Maybe in other states that's not the case.AZGrizFan wrote:Did someone say Kasich and Carson were stealing votes from Cruz? I highly doubt that.kalm wrote:Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
Cruz has gone of the deep end. I'm sure he's very intelligent but he just comes off as an ass that no one likes. And the longer this goes on the worse it is getting. The best thing about Cruz is he gave our governor a big "fuck you" on ethanol and still won the caucus.
I wonder if Rubio would drop out and Kasich would announce that Rubio would be his VP pick if that would change things for the establishment candidates.
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It's been mentioned in here several times as well as by pundits. Also see Cruz in Iowa.AZGrizFan wrote:Did someone say Kasich and Carson were stealing votes from Cruz? I highly doubt that.kalm wrote:Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
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Not me! My hometown of less than 500 is now about 60,000. It grew from people moving from everywhere else. Those assholes aren't real Texans or maybe first generation. We real Texans were almost all good people. Cruz ain't no real Texan.93henfan wrote:Doesn't really matter. Cruz is dirty as all hell and a compulsive liar and fraudster (see Iowa), but he was going to win Texas. Texans are just assholes by nature.alyssa wrote:Some voters in Texas have seen their Trump vote switched to Rubio. I voted 8 days ago and it seems that all my votes were taken correctly.
One of the local news channels does a week piece on Texans with character or something like that. Almost everyone featured is not a real Texan but from somewhere else. Even the people doing the stories are from somewhere else like Michigan.
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I like two things about Texas:alyssa wrote:Not me! My hometown of less than 500 is now about 60,000. It grew from people moving from everywhere else. Those assholes aren't real Texans or maybe first generation. We real Texans were almost all good people. Cruz ain't no real Texan.93henfan wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Cruz is dirty as all hell and a compulsive liar and fraudster (see Iowa), but he was going to win Texas. Texans are just assholes by nature.
One of the local news channels does a week piece on Texans with character or something like that. Almost everyone featured is not a real Texan but from somewhere else. Even the people doing the stories are from somewhere else like Michigan.
Their women and their position on gun rights.
The end.
PS. Admittedly, my time spent in the state is limited. Drove across the stovepipe (Amarillo) on I-40 and had a big steak at whatever that tourist trap is. Also been to Dallas/Ft W for the 2010 FCS Chipper.
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That would be like me judging Delaware by going only to....Delaware.93henfan wrote:I like two things about Texas:
Their women and their position on gun rights.
The end.
PS. Admittedly, my time spent in the state is limited. Drove across the stovepipe (Amarillo) on I-40 and had a big steak at whatever that tourist trap is. Also been to Dallas/Ft W for the 2010 FCS Chipper.
Never mind. Delaware is about as big as the county I live in in Texas....
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You tell em, sister!alyssa wrote:Not me! My hometown of less than 500 is now about 60,000. It grew from people moving from everywhere else. Those assholes aren't real Texans or maybe first generation. We real Texans were almost all good people. Cruz ain't no real Texan.93henfan wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Cruz is dirty as all hell and a compulsive liar and fraudster (see Iowa), but he was going to win Texas. Texans are just assholes by nature.
One of the local news channels does a week piece on Texans with character or something like that. Almost everyone featured is not a real Texan but from somewhere else. Even the people doing the stories are from somewhere else like Michigan.
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Re: Super Tuesday 2016
And I posted that Hillary had a bigger problem with Bernie than the experts thought.kalm wrote:You just watch your mooooouuuuuuth mister!GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I like Kasich, and in a political climate other than the absurd one we are living in now, Kasich would be a great candidate. However, he just doesn't move the needle in the South at all. He was hovering around Carson numbers yesterday in any place other than Massachusetts and Vermont. I think he's sensible, well-spoken, and pretty level headed, but that doesn't play in this election.
Conversely, you can see why Cruz would have no chance in a national election (and Rubio to a lesser extent but still same outcome) - those guys are fine in fire-breathing tea party places like Texas, but they don't have any chance to draw in moderates and *gasp* Democrats. Cruz's speech last night was indicative of why he can't govern - he looks and acts like a (going to get all un-GF like here, hold on) smug prick who doesn't get along with anyone. And that's fine when you're an idealogical-toting loner in the Senate *cough* Bernie *cough* but it means you won't accomplish one iota when in office, which won't happen anyway because it's not appealing to people who don't live in log cabins in Texas.
It's Trump versus Hillary now. The Democratic establishment will never let Bernie have a shot and Trump, as I said before, sucks all the air out of the room. It will be an interesting next few months.![]()
Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
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Re: Super Tuesday 2016
Her problem isn't with Bernie, per se. Her problem is with her email server and the fact that the guy who set it up has been given immunity by the Justice Dept. Word is that he's cooperating with the FBI.houndawg wrote:And I posted that Hillary had a bigger problem with Bernie than the experts thought.kalm wrote:
You just watch your mooooouuuuuuth mister!![]()
Agreed, I just posted that because the opposite (Kasich and Carson stealing votes from Cruz and Rubio) has been brought up a bunch. Although I do wonder if given the opportunity to go one on one with Trump, Kasich might actually have a chance. He just started too slow.
(BTW, since folks are now claiming prescience, I posted last summer that I thought Kasich was the best candidate the conks had)
Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server
IF the Hildabeast gets indicted, and has to give up, the Donk establishment would throw Joe Biden into the ring to take her place. That would be a travesty. Unfortunately, I think Bernie would pussy out and not fight back if it happened.The Justice Department has granted immunity to a former State Department staffer, who worked on Hillary Clinton’s private email server, as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information, according to a senior law enforcement official.
The official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.
As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents are likely to want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said.
Re: Super Tuesday 2016
Did Hillary pick up any more delegates Wednesday night? I know there was no primary, just wonderin'.Ibanez wrote:Clinton picked up 453.Ibanez wrote:I say Clinton picks up at least 450 delegates.
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It very much is indeed. Bernie has raised more money than she has, at $27 a pop on average, and is drawing bigger crowds. Almost nobody on the political spectrum between Chizz and ALPACAJIZZ (I thought he'd be back from camping with the Bundy's in Oregon by now) can stand her and Independents prefer her 80/20. And he has the money to run all the way to the convention or go independent if he wants to, which I think both he and Trump should do just to stick it to the RNC and the DNC. Oh yes, she has a real problem with Bernie.Baldy wrote:Her problem isn't with Bernie, per se. Her problem is with her email server and the fact that the guy who set it up has been given immunity by the Justice Dept. Word is that he's cooperating with the FBI.houndawg wrote:
And I posted that Hillary had a bigger problem with Bernie than the experts thought.
Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server
IF the Hildabeast gets indicted, and has to give up, the Donk establishment would throw Joe Biden into the ring to take her place. That would be a travesty. Unfortunately, I think Bernie would pussy out and not fight back if it happened.The Justice Department has granted immunity to a former State Department staffer, who worked on Hillary Clinton’s private email server, as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information, according to a senior law enforcement official.
The official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.
As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents are likely to want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said.
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Isn't this a double post? Or are you just that fond of quoting yourself?houndawg wrote:It very much is indeed. Bernie has raised more money than she has, at $27 a pop on average, and is drawing bigger crowds. Almost nobody on the political spectrum between Chizz and ALPACAJIZZ (I thought he'd be back from camping with the Bundy's in Oregon by now) can stand her and Independents prefer her 80/20. And he has the money to run all the way to the convention or go independent if he wants to, which I think both he and Trump should do just to stick it to the RNC and the DNC. Oh yes, she has a real problem with Bernie.Baldy wrote: Her problem isn't with Bernie, per se. Her problem is with her email server and the fact that the guy who set it up has been given immunity by the Justice Dept. Word is that he's cooperating with the FBI.
Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server
IF the Hildabeast gets indicted, and has to give up, the Donk establishment would throw Joe Biden into the ring to take her place. That would be a travesty. Unfortunately, I think Bernie would pussy out and not fight back if it happened.
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Disagree, he's too old to worry about the future and public opinion may never be this favorable again in his lifetime... which is about 10-15 years.Baldy wrote:Her problem isn't with Bernie, per se. Her problem is with her email server and the fact that the guy who set it up has been given immunity by the Justice Dept. Word is that he's cooperating with the FBI.houndawg wrote:
And I posted that Hillary had a bigger problem with Bernie than the experts thought.
Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server
IF the Hildabeast gets indicted, and has to give up, the Donk establishment would throw Joe Biden into the ring to take her place. That would be a travesty. Unfortunately, I think Bernie would pussy out and not fight back if it happened.The Justice Department has granted immunity to a former State Department staffer, who worked on Hillary Clinton’s private email server, as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information, according to a senior law enforcement official.
The official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.
As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents are likely to want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said.
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FIFY.houndawg wrote:Disagree, he's too old to worry about the future and public opinion may never be this favorable again in his lifetime... which is about 10-15 months.Baldy wrote: Her problem isn't with Bernie, per se. Her problem is with her email server and the fact that the guy who set it up has been given immunity by the Justice Dept. Word is that he's cooperating with the FBI.
Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server
IF the Hildabeast gets indicted, and has to give up, the Donk establishment would throw Joe Biden into the ring to take her place. That would be a travesty. Unfortunately, I think Bernie would pussy out and not fight back if it happened.
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Both..Ivytalk wrote:Isn't this a double post? Or are you just that fond of quoting yourself?houndawg wrote:
It very much is indeed. Bernie has raised more money than she has, at $27 a pop on average, and is drawing bigger crowds. Almost nobody on the political spectrum between Chizz and ALPACAJIZZ (I thought he'd be back from camping with the Bundy's in Oregon by now) can stand her and Independents prefer her 80/20. And he has the money to run all the way to the convention or go independent if he wants to, which I think both he and Trump should do just to stick it to the RNC and the DNC. Oh yes, she has a real problem with Bernie.
Thought I was responding to two different parts..
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