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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:I honestly don't understand why law enforcement (and the media) didn't just go home. They wanted a spectacle....law enforcement and the media gave it to them. They were literally in the middle of nowhere this entire time.
Yeah! All they did was take over government buildings, threaten violence, waste tax payer dollars, and tried to recruit more to do the same.

But it they're armed we should leave them alone I guess. That'll show 'em!
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"government buildings". And my statement had nothing to do with whether they were armed or not. :dunce:
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kalm wrote:
Yeah! All they did was take over government buildings, threaten violence, waste tax payer dollars, and tried to recruit more to do the same.

But it they're armed we should leave them alone I guess. That'll show 'em!
:lol: :roll: :roll:

"government buildings". And my statement had nothing to do with whether they were armed or not. :dunce:
Yeah...you know...buildings. Owned by the government. Turnbull right by me has them too. They have a classroom for lectures, school groups etc. Offices for managing the property. Equipment buildings and a shop. Went to a presentation on bats there once. The room is full of stuffed critters. It was like a museum and really fucking cool.

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I didn't say your statement mentioned they were armed. But that fact along with the threats might have changed the situation just a tad for law enforcement dont ya think? :coffee:
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Did somebody say "bat country"?

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Grizalltheway wrote:Did somebody say "bat country"?

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Wedgebuster wrote:Should have shot all the dick holes dead as soon as possible, they were domestic terrorists, leaches, and warts on the ass of society, fuck 'em. :nod:

Made our own media mess by allowing this bull shit to go on and let the stupid ass wipes attempt to make a case and get sympathy from other gull-a-bulls.

"Armed group storm and are now holding a property owned by The United States", that's really all the fuck anybody should need to know...

Blows my mind all the right wing sympathy for these tard-os, JFC.

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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah! All they did was take over government buildings, threaten violence, waste tax payer dollars, and tried to recruit more to do the same.

But it they're armed we should leave them alone I guess. That'll show 'em!
:lol: :roll: :roll:

"government buildings". And my statement had nothing to do with whether they were armed or not. :dunce:

Yes, Government buildings, destroyed public property, etc.
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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:
You do realize you can negotiate with the IRS. They'll settle for pennies on the dollar. :ohno:
Yes. I've literally spent 9 hours on the phone at various times (mostly on hold) "negotiating" with them. I filed for an abatement and was denied. I'm now appealing the abatement.
On the phone. :ohno:

Go to the local IRS office in Spokompton. :nod:

You can only get an abatement of tax or interest for a financial hardship. Anybody with a pulse can get a penalty waiver or reduction, especially if you pay the tax and interest due.
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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:
Meh...

There were left wing celebrities, journalists, politicians, etc. coming out the woodwork in support of the Occupy Wall Street tardos, and those fuckers were killing, looting, and raping people. :coffee:
Yeah! Remember all those killings, lootings, and rapings of people?
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah! Remember all those killings, lootings, and rapings of people?
Yes.
Kalm likes to pretend that was a peaceful yet powerful protest. It was neither.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... e-1.976605
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah! Remember all those killings, lootings, and rapings of people?
Yes.
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89Hen wrote:
Baldy wrote: Yes.
Kalm likes to pretend that was a peaceful yet powerful protest. It was neither.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... e-1.976605
A suicide, a drug overdose and something that happens in Oakland every damn day. :lol:

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kalm wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Bingo. Groups like this pray for a scenario like this so they can recruit their next Timothy McVeigh.

Law enforcement should just wait on these types. It's just not worth being impatient unless they are severely disrupting others' life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
They did wait. Weeks.

I get what you're saing but they weren't just driving to Burns (which is close) to load up on Cheetos and old Donnie and Marie tapes , they were driving an hour north (think the equivalent of 3 EC(b) states :mrgreen: ) to John Day for a public open house. Finnicum, the guy who got killed, had an arrest warrant and attempted to evade. They were all armed.

At some point, they were not going to be allowed to do whatever they wanted.

I just had to pay the IRS $3500 in fines for a completely innocent and understandable first time payroll tax mistake. Their letters were nasty, threatening seizure of property or forfeiture of my first born, and I was basically hung up on, while trying to figure it out all out by some coont in customer service. And I was being sweet as pie!

Still didn't load up and take over a bird sanctuary though.

And I'm alive!
I'm not agreeing with what they did by any means. I'd just have preferred that law enforcement (Federal, State and Local) would have sealed the area completely from the outset. No one in and no one out. Eventually they would have had to give up.
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AshevilleApp wrote:
kalm wrote:
They did wait. Weeks.

I get what you're saing but they weren't just driving to Burns (which is close) to load up on Cheetos and old Donnie and Marie tapes , they were driving an hour north (think the equivalent of 3 EC(b) states :mrgreen: ) to John Day for a public open house. Finnicum, the guy who got killed, had an arrest warrant and attempted to evade. They were all armed.

At some point, they were not going to be allowed to do whatever they wanted.

I just had to pay the IRS $3500 in fines for a completely innocent and understandable first time payroll tax mistake. Their letters were nasty, threatening seizure of property or forfeiture of my first born, and I was basically hung up on, while trying to figure it out all out by some coont in customer service. And I was being sweet as pie!

Still didn't load up and take over a bird sanctuary though.

And I'm alive!
I'm not agreeing with what they did by any means. I'd just have preferred that law enforcement (Federal, State and Local) would have sealed the area completely from the outset. No one in and no one out. Eventually they would have had to give up.
That's reasonable. They should not have been allowed outside the gates at all.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: Kalm likes to pretend that was a peaceful yet powerful protest. It was neither.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... e-1.976605
A suicide, a drug overdose and something that happens in Oakland every damn day. :lol:
Yeah... :dunce:

Sexual Assaults Reported in 'Occupy' Camps
Alleged sexual assaults at Occupy Wall Street camps have raised concerns about security in a handful of cities, including reports of rape and groping in tents at New York's Zuccotti Park and a sex offender in Dallas having sex with an underage runaway.

"These protests have a history of welcoming everyone and just assuming they're on your side," said David Meyer, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Irvine, who studies protest movements.

The recent reports of assaults have created a problem the "Occupy" movement is being challenged to address head-on.

"We always encourage victims to go through the proper channels and contact police," said Brendan Burke, 41, who helps run the security team in Zuccotti Park.

But that's not always the case. Burke admitted there have been times when members of the community have taken it upon themselves to chase off men who exposed themselves in the park.

"If there is a consensus that someone is bothering another person, the community will take care of it," he said. "Still, we always notify victims to contact police."

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg -- addressing the allegations of sexual assault today -- said the reported practice of chasing perpetrators, rather than reporting them to police, is "despicable." If the reports are true, he said, the protesters have made the city less safe.

Burke said the group is taking action to help prevent any future assaults, something that camps across the country have began to address.
A rape and a groping tent. :?
How forward thinking...how progressive. :suspicious:

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So the moral of this thread is:

Occupy an unoccupied building in the middle nowhere... with guns because you have a problem with the gummint=

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CID1990 wrote:So the moral of this thread is:

Occupy an unoccupied building in the middle nowhere... with guns because you have a problem with the gummint=

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Occupy public spaces in 40 something cities because you have a problem with big banks or shaving your pits or bathing regularly=

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Gettin' 'em all grouped up on this thread! Any minute now, one grenade would get 'em all!

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Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
A suicide, a drug overdose and something that happens in Oakland every damn day. :lol:
Yeah... :dunce:

Sexual Assaults Reported in 'Occupy' Camps
Alleged sexual assaults at Occupy Wall Street camps have raised concerns about security in a handful of cities, including reports of rape and groping in tents at New York's Zuccotti Park and a sex offender in Dallas having sex with an underage runaway.

"These protests have a history of welcoming everyone and just assuming they're on your side," said David Meyer, a professor of sociology at the University of California at Irvine, who studies protest movements.

The recent reports of assaults have created a problem the "Occupy" movement is being challenged to address head-on.

"We always encourage victims to go through the proper channels and contact police," said Brendan Burke, 41, who helps run the security team in Zuccotti Park.

But that's not always the case. Burke admitted there have been times when members of the community have taken it upon themselves to chase off men who exposed themselves in the park.

"If there is a consensus that someone is bothering another person, the community will take care of it," he said. "Still, we always notify victims to contact police."

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg -- addressing the allegations of sexual assault today -- said the reported practice of chasing perpetrators, rather than reporting them to police, is "despicable." If the reports are true, he said, the protesters have made the city less safe.

Burke said the group is taking action to help prevent any future assaults, something that camps across the country have began to address.
A rape and a groping tent. :?
How forward thinking...how progressive. :suspicious:

:coffee:
Those people committed crimes and should be prosecuted. That doesn't mean that everyone else at the protest is guilty of anything other than being smelly and annoying.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :roll: :roll:

"government buildings". And my statement had nothing to do with whether they were armed or not. :dunce:
Yeah...you know...buildings. Owned by the government. Turnbull right by me has them too. They have a classroom for lectures, school groups etc. Offices for managing the property. Equipment buildings and a shop. Went to a presentation on bats there once. The room is full of stuffed critters. It was like a museum and really fucking cool.

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I didn't say your statement mentioned they were armed. But that fact along with the threats might have changed the situation just a tad for law enforcement dont ya think? :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:Those people committed crimes and should be prosecuted. That doesn't mean that everyone else at the protest is guilty of anything other than being smelly and annoying.
Trespassing.

The rape and groping tents referenced in the article were located in Zuccotti Park. A privately owned park. Everyone who decided to pitch a tent, grope a chick, or take a dump in the park were guilty of trespassing. NYPD in riot gear had to remove the tards with force. :tothehand:
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Baldy wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Those people committed crimes and should be prosecuted. That doesn't mean that everyone else at the protest is guilty of anything other than being smelly and annoying.
Trespassing.

The rape and groping tents referenced in the article were located in Zuccotti Park. A privately owned park. Everyone who decided to pitch a tent, grope a chick, or take a dump in the park were guilty of trespassing. NYPD in riot gear had to remove the tards with force. :tothehand:
And that means a lot in the current situation in Oregon?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So the moral of this thread is:

Occupy an unoccupied building in the middle nowhere... with guns because you have a problem with the gummint=

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Occupy public spaces in 40 something cities because you have a problem with big banks or shaving your pits or bathing regularly=

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Also:
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I was pretty sure I was close... thanks for double checking my work

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
correct
I was pretty sure I was close... thanks for double checking my work

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i was trying to say something like that and you stole my thunder

so i was just nodding
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