Will Evangelicals realize Trump is Satan's Servant?

[Wedgebuster]

[houndawg]

It's a shame because the Republicans came in having a better set of candidates this time than they've had, I think, since Ronald Reagan was running. A number of really good candidates. And the idiot Republican voters are in the process of casting them all aside in order to select probably the WORST candidate their party has put forward in my lifetime.

Given that Reagan sold weapons to Iran, gave amnesty to three million illegal immigrants (where do you think them terrorist sleeper cells got started), and tripled the national debt, I guess we all should give you a big "duh." Thats what this slate of candidates had to be better than, and its very debatable that they even come close to being anywhere near as good ol' '"Eleven Tax Increases" Reagan....

Jesus, John.

[Chizzang]

It's a shame because the Republicans came in having a better set of candidates this time than they've had, I think, since Ronald Reagan was running. A number of really good candidates. And the idiot Republican voters are in the process of casting them all aside in order to select probably the WORST candidate their party has put forward in my lifetime.

Given that Reagan sold weapons to Iran, gave amnesty to three million illegal immigrants (where do you think them terrorist sleeper cells got started), and tripled the national debt, I guess we all should give you a big "duh." Thats what this slate of candidates had to be better than, and its very debatable that they even come close to being anywhere near as good ol' '"Eleven Tax Increases" Reagan....

Jesus, John.

Wait I thought it was 7 tax increases ..?

[kalm]

Given that Reagan sold weapons to Iran, gave amnesty to three million illegal immigrants (where do you think them terrorist sleeper cells got started), and tripled the national debt, I guess we all should give you a big "duh." Thats what this slate of candidates had to be better than, and its very debatable that they even come close to being anywhere near as good ol' '"Eleven Tax Increases" Reagan....

Jesus, John.

Wait I thought it was 7 tax increases ..?

The Democratic congress made him.

(And the failure of supply side economics)

[houndawg]

Given that Reagan sold weapons to Iran, gave amnesty to three million illegal immigrants (where do you think them terrorist sleeper cells got started), and tripled the national debt, I guess we all should give you a big "duh." Thats what this slate of candidates had to be better than, and its very debatable that they even come close to being anywhere near as good ol' '"Eleven Tax Increases" Reagan....

Jesus, John.

Wait I thought it was 7 tax increases ..?

I think it was 11 tax increases in 7 years.



He was a serial tax raiser.

Thats what's so hilarious about listening to AZZGrease, John'sAintLong, Balmy, and their Greek chorus of vocally flatulent conks singing the praises of a mythical President.

[JohnStOnge]

Aside from disagreements about Reagan's Presidency, he was clearly a great candidate. In 1980 he carried 44 States to Carter's 6 plus DC. He won by 489 electoral votes to 49. In 1984 he carried 49 States to Mondale's 1 + DC. He won by 525 electoral votes to 13.

I think he was the best President of my lifetime. But even if you disagree with my belief in that regard, I don't see how you can argue with the proposition that he was a great candidate. And that's what I'm talking about in this context.

The Republicans started off with several candidates that could do well in a general election this time. They didn't have that last time. They didn't have that the time before that. They were borderline in having that the two elections before that. So on and so forth.

And now the insane support for this Trump clown is destroying what started off as an outstanding opportunity for that Party to control the Presidency and both Houses of Congress. Suicide.

[JohnStOnge]

Not exactly Evangelicals per se but at least SOMETHING:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ald-trump/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think this is consistent with my belief that even if you have some Evangelical leaders endorse that buffoon he is going to have issues with Evangelical support and enthusiasm in the general election.

Dear Iowans,

As pro-life women leaders from Iowa and across the nation, we urge Republican caucus-goers and voters to support anyone but Donald Trump. On the issue of defending unborn children and protecting women from the violence of abortion, Mr. Trump cannot be trusted and there is, thankfully, an abundance of alternative candidates with proven records of pro-life leadership whom pro-life voters can support. We have come to this conclusion after having listened patiently to numerous debates and news reports, but most importantly to Donald Trump’s own words.

The next president will be responsible for as many as four nominations to the Supreme Court. Mr. Trump has given us only one indication about the type of judges he would appoint, and it does not bode well for those who would like to see the court overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Trump has said his sister, Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, who struck down the Partial Birth Abortion Ban in New Jersey, would be a “phenomenal” choice for the court. Earlier this month, Mr. Trump also said he thought pro-choice Senator Scott Brown would make a “very good” Vice President. If one truly believes, as we do, that abortion is the taking of an innocent human life and is committed to the pro-life priorities of ending abortion after five months, and defunding the nation’s largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood, it would be a disaster to have a vice president who disagrees.

Moreover, as women, we are disgusted by Mr. Trump’s treatment of individuals, women, in particular. He has impugned the dignity of women, most notably Megyn Kelly, he mocked and bullied Carly Fiorina, and has through the years made disparaging public comments to and about many women. Further, Mr. Trump has profited from the exploitation of women in his Atlantic City casino hotel which boasted of the first strip club casino in the country.

America will only be a great nation when we have leaders of strong character who will defend both unborn children and the dignity of women. We cannot trust Donald Trump to do either. Therefore we urge our fellow citizens to support an alternative candidate.

Jenifer Bowen, Executive Director, Iowa Right to Life
Denise Bubeck, Member and Iowa Volunteer, Concerned Women for America
Kendra Burger, Director of Educational Outreach, Iowa Right to Life
Marjorie Dannenfelser, President, Susan B. Anthony List
Christine Hurley, Iowa Pro-life Activist
Beverly LaHaye, Founder and Chairman, Concerned Women for America
Marilyn Musgrave, Fmr. Congresswoman, VP of Government Affairs, Susan B. Anthony List
Penny Nance, President and CEO, Concerned Women for America
Star Parker, Founder and President, Urbancure
Luana Stoltenberg, Iowa Leader, Operation Outcry

[houndawg]

Aside from disagreements about Reagan's Presidency, he was clearly a great candidate. In 1980 he carried 44 States to Carter's 6 plus DC. He won by 489 electoral votes to 49. In 1984 he carried 49 States to Mondale's 1 + DC. He won by 525 electoral votes to 13.

I think he was the best President of my lifetime. But even if you disagree with my belief in that regard, I don't see how you can argue with the proposition that he was a great candidate. And that's what I'm talking about in this context.

The Republicans started off with several candidates that could do well in a general election this time. They didn't have that last time. They didn't have that the time before that. They were borderline in having that the two elections before that. So on and so forth.

And now the insane support for this Trump clown is destroying what started off as an outstanding opportunity for that Party to control the Presidency and both Houses of Congress. Suicide.

Snap out of it John, it was never going to happen. I feel so embarrassed to have to explicitly tell you that the candidates are so bad that even a buffoon like Trump can mop the political floor with them. Even republicans get it, John.

[JohnStOnge]

Snap out of it John, it was never going to happen. I feel so embarrassed to have to explicitly tell you that the candidates are so bad that even a buffoon like Trump can mop the political floor with them. Even republicans get it, John.

I know you know better.

[BDKJMU]

"Poll: Evangelicals flocking to Trump

Donald Trump’s outreach to Christians is bearing fruit, if results of the NBC News/Survey Monkey weekly online tracking poll out Tuesday are any indication.

Among white evangelical Republican voters nationally, Trump earned the support of 37 percent, while Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, whose father is a pastor and has played a key role in recruiting faith leaders to support his son, is at 20 percent. In the same survey conducted the previous week, Cruz registered 9 percentage points higher. Below the top two contenders, Ben Carson earned 11 percent among evangelicals, and Marco Rubio took 10 percent.

The Manhattan business mogul, who is Presbyterian, made headlines throughout the course of the past week for his various interactions with fellow Christians, including a stop at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, last Monday. Delivering the weekly convocation address, Trump caused a stir when he made reference to a book in the Bible a “Two Corinthians,” rather than the usual nomenclature, “Second Corinthians.” (Trump later claimed that it was written that way in his notes, and besides, his mother was Scottish and would have said it that way.)"
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/t ... oll-218210" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

Snap out of it John, it was never going to happen. I feel so embarrassed to have to explicitly tell you that the candidates are so bad that even a buffoon like Trump can mop the political floor with them. Even republicans get it, John.

I know you know better.

The numbers don't lie, John. A professional buffoon is kicking the living shit out of the best the conks can field.

Res ipsa loquitur.

[JohnStOnge]

"Poll: Evangelicals flocking to Trump

Donald Trump’s outreach to Christians is bearing fruit, if results of the NBC News/Survey Monkey weekly online tracking poll out Tuesday are any indication.

Among white evangelical Republican voters nationally, Trump earned the support of 37 percent, while Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, whose father is a pastor and has played a key role in recruiting faith leaders to support his son, is at 20 percent. In the same survey conducted the previous week, Cruz registered 9 percentage points higher. Below the top two contenders, Ben Carson earned 11 percent among evangelicals, and Marco Rubio took 10 percent.

The Manhattan business mogul, who is Presbyterian, made headlines throughout the course of the past week for his various interactions with fellow Christians, including a stop at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, last Monday. Delivering the weekly convocation address, Trump caused a stir when he made reference to a book in the Bible a “Two Corinthians,” rather than the usual nomenclature, “Second Corinthians.” (Trump later claimed that it was written that way in his notes, and besides, his mother was Scottish and would have said it that way.)"
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/t ... oll-218210" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If and when he gets to the general election, he is not going to get the support among White Evangelical Voters that Republican candidates normally get. There is clearly a rift. You don't normally have Evangelical Christian leaders coming out and saying "do not support this guy" and that is happening in this instance. The guy has zero chance to win the general election.

It's like if you had a Democrat where there was serious disagreement among Blacks and Hispanics about whether they should vote for him or her or not.

[BDKJMU]

I am so for Trump now, just because of how much JSO hates him.

Funny thing is, if Trump was from Baton Rouge he'd love him. JSO hates him some yankees.

Not at all. I'd vote for Christie, for instance, if he got the nomination without hesitation. Not my favorite but I would. I thought about that today as I was watching a telecast of him talking to the press about the winter storm response. Obvious great command of the situation and what was going on. Inspired a lot of confidence that he was managing the situation well. Thought to myself of how overwhelmed that buffoon Trump would be in a situation like that. I don't like that Christie sucked up to Obama right before the last Presidential election but at the same time I agree with him on most of the big issues and I have complete confidence in his ability to do the job well.

BTW Christie was wearing a University of Delaware jacket during the telecast. Watch the video at this link and you can see that the guy is qualified to be President:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/471860601600 ... show-clips" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So Christie, who you had complete confidence to do the job well, has endorsed Trump..So what are you going to say now, your confidence in Christie was a mistake?

[JohnStOnge]

So Christie, who you had complete confidence to do the job well, has endorsed Trump..So what are you going to say now, your confidence in Christie was a mistake?

Yes. I actually started to think that when he pointlessly went after Rubio in the debate prior to the New Hampshire Primary. Then any doubts I had were erased when he endorsed the buffoon after dropping out.