Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Political discussions
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
No he's not, and Yes I can! :licker:

1) Turnbull NWR just down the road from me was visited last year by cars from 39 different states (based on a number I read somewhere years ago and that is partially made up but I'm sure extremely accurate).

2) As Houndawg, mentioned earlier, this guitar kills fascists!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]
How many were rentals? Because car rental locations, at least airport, will have license plates from numerous different states.
Oh for fucks sake, I made it up. :ohno: :lol:

But according to this 21% of the 37,000 visitors were "non local" with an average of trip 349 miles to get to the refuge.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/ds/643/Pacific%20Region%20(R1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)/Turnbull%20NWR%20-%20NWR%20visitor%20survey%202010_2011.pdf
Image
Image
Image
YoUDeeMan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 12088
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:48 am
I am a fan of: Fleecing the Stupid
A.K.A.: Delaware Homie

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by YoUDeeMan »

BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
No he's not, and Yes I can! :licker:

1) Turnbull NWR just down the road from me was visited last year by cars from 39 different states (based on a number I read somewhere years ago and that is partially made up but I'm sure extremely accurate).

2) As Houndawg, mentioned earlier, this guitar kills fascists!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]
How many were rentals? Because car rental locations, at least airport, will have license plates from numerous different states.
10.

No, eleven.

OK, maybe 12.

In any case, that is like asking how many of the 1% like milk in their coffee. It is still an incredibly small number of people, and it doesn't matter where they come from...they are being subsidized by the rest of us.

But, I think it is safe to say that there were not any people from downtown Ferguson or Detroit wandering around kalm's federally funded play land, so kalm and the gubmint are surely racist. :nod:
These signatures have a 500 character limit?

What if I have more personalities than that?
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

Cluck U wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
How many were rentals? Because car rental locations, at least airport, will have license plates from numerous different states.
10.

No, eleven.

OK, maybe 12.

In any case, that is like asking how many of the 1% like milk in their coffee. It is still an incredibly small number of people, and it doesn't matter where they come from...they are being subsidized by the rest of us.

But, I think it is safe to say that there were not any people from downtown Ferguson or Detroit wandering around kalm's federally funded play land, so kalm and the gubmint are surely racist. :nod:
:lol:
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by JohnStOnge »

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]

Commie pinko slime ball.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

JohnStOnge wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]

Commie pinko slime ball.
Wait...you don't like Woody Guthrie? :shock: :shock: :shock:

:rofl:
I’m gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax and Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
dbackjon
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 45616
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 am
I am a fan of: Northern Arizona
A.K.A.: He/Him
Location: Scottsdale

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by dbackjon »

BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
:nod:

I'm not even sure the states could afford to manage all the federal lands.
Of course they could if all the $$$ that goes to Washington every year for manages federal lands (via taxpayers) was funneled to the states. Probably less wasted..


I don't think you understand the economics of it.
:thumb:
Baldy
Level4
Level4
Posts: 9903
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Southern

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Baldy »

kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]

Commie pinko slime ball.
Wait...you don't like Woody Guthrie? :shock: :shock: :shock:

:rofl:
I’m gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax and Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose.
Well, Guthrie was pretty much a POS...not because he was a Communist, but from what I've read, he was a shitty father and husband, and a pretty miserable human being all together. :coffee:
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Wait...you don't like Woody Guthrie? :shock: :shock: :shock:

:rofl:
Well, Guthrie was pretty much a POS...not because he was a Communist, but from what I've read, he was a shitty father and husband, and a pretty miserable human being all together. :coffee:
Much of this is true. It tends to be the story of artists.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by JohnStOnge »

What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

JohnStOnge wrote:What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
So Guthrie was a lot like Trump then? :lol:
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Grizalltheway »

JohnStOnge wrote:What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
Then why were communists persecuted almost to the extent that Jews were in Hitler's Germany?
User avatar
Chizzang
Level5
Level5
Posts: 19274
Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
Location: Palermo Italy

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Chizzang »

Grizalltheway wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
Then why were communists persecuted almost to the extent that Jews were in Hitler's Germany?
Hey! we're working with Ann Coulter world history here not "actual" world history...

:coffee:

Move along pin head and go back to your fancy history books
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
Baldy
Level4
Level4
Posts: 9903
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Southern

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Baldy »

kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: Well, Guthrie was pretty much a POS...not because he was a Communist, but from what I've read, he was a shitty father and husband, and a pretty miserable human being all together. :coffee:
Much of this is true. It tends to be the story of artists.
Hence, why most "artists" are Donks. :rofl: :kisswink:

:mrgreen:
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Much of this is true. It tends to be the story of artists.
Hence, why most "artists" are Donks. :rofl: :kisswink:

:mrgreen:
So a tortured soul lends itself to creativity but also leads to infidelity and abandonment which in turn leads to voting democrat? :suspicious:

It's awesome how you've made some sort of connection there. :lol:

Then again, Utah leads the nation in gay porn, the #1 porn search in Alabama is ebony and we all know how much conservatives love them some black cock.

Yeah...I see what you're getting at.
Image
Image
Image
Ibanez
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 60519
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:16 pm
I am a fan of: Coastal Carolina

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Ibanez »

JohnStOnge wrote:What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
Apparently that didn't matter since Hitler loathed Commies, blamed them for many of the same "crimes" as the Jews, Catholics, gypsies, homosexuals, etc... and waged a war against them. :lol:
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

Here's a brief history of the Malheur area, the original land owners, and Supreme Court decisions that upheld the feds role as constitutional.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-simpl ... blic-land/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Grizalltheway »

Ibanez wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:What Guthrie didn't say is that fascism and communism are closely related. Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a communist. Or you could say Stalin was a socialist evolving towards communism. See a big difference?

You're lying if you say "yes."

Remember, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
Apparently that didn't matter since Hitler loathed Commies, blamed them for many of the same "crimes" as the Jews, Catholics, gypsies, homosexuals, etc... and waged a war against them. :lol:
Stop lying to yourself and go read a statistics manual. :coffee:
Baldy
Level4
Level4
Posts: 9903
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Southern

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Baldy »

kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: Hence, why most "artists" are Donks. :rofl: :kisswink:

:mrgreen:
So a tortured soul lends itself to creativity but also leads to infidelity and abandonment which in turn leads to voting democrat? :suspicious:

It's awesome how you've made some sort of connection there. :lol:

Then again, Utah leads the nation in gay porn, the #1 porn search in Alabama is ebony and we all know how much conservatives love them some black cock.

Yeah...I see what you're getting at.
Tortured souls are ruled by their emotions and feelings, not common sense.

Unconscious Reactions Separate Liberals and Conservatives
On topics where liberals and conservatives will never see eye to eye, opposing sides can try to cultivate mutual respect. In The Righteous Mind, Haidt identifies several areas of morality. Liberals, he says, tend to value two of them: caring for people who are vulnerable and fairness, which for liberals tends to mean sharing resources equally. Conservatives care about those things, too, but for them fairness means proportionality—that people should get what they deserve based on the amount of effort they have put in. Conservatives also emphasize loyalty and authority>, values helpful for maintaining a stable society.

In a 2009 study Haidt and two of his colleagues presented more than 8,000 people with a series of hypothetical actions. Among them: kick a dog in the head; discard a box of ballots to help your candidate win; publicly bet against a favorite sports team; curse your parents to their faces; and receive a blood transfusion from a child molester. Participants had to say whether they would do these deeds for money and, if so, for how much—$10? $1,000? $100,000? More? Liberals were reluctant to harm a living thing or act unfairly, even for $1 million, but they were willing to betray group loyalty, disrespect authority or do something disgusting, such as eating their own dog after it dies, for cash. Conservatives said they were less willing to compromise on any of the moral categories.

Haidt has a message for both sides. He wants the left to acknowledge that the right's emphasis on laws, institutions, customs and religion is valuable. Conservatives recognize that democracy is a huge achievement and that maintaining the social order requires imposing constraints on people. Liberal values, on the other hand, also serve important roles: ensuring that the rights of weaker members of society are respected; limiting the harmful effects, such as pollution, that corporations sometimes pass on to others; and fostering innovation by supporting diverse ideas and ways of life.

Haidt is not out to change people's deepest moral beliefs. Yet he thinks that if people could see that those they disagree with are not immoral but simply emphasizing different moral principles, some of the antagonism would subside. Intriguingly, Haidt himself has morphed from liberal to centrist over the course of his research. He now finds value in conservative tenets that he used to reject reflexively: “It's yin and yang. Both sides see different threats; both sides are wise to different virtues.”
Image

ALABAMA: FOX News / God / Impeach Obama / Jesus / Jessica Simpson / Obama Is The Antichrist / Polka / Satan

UTAH: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints / Def Leppard (band) / Demolition Derby / Girls Gone Wild / Global Warming Hoax / Jay Leno / Kama Sutra / Laser Hair Removal / Magic Tricks / Mustaches / Star Trek / Star Wars / Twinkie / Tinder / Twilight (book series) / Weird Al Yankovic (singer) / What is the internet?

Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67802
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by kalm »

Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
So a tortured soul lends itself to creativity but also leads to infidelity and abandonment which in turn leads to voting democrat? :suspicious:

It's awesome how you've made some sort of connection there. :lol:

Then again, Utah leads the nation in gay porn, the #1 porn search in Alabama is ebony and we all know how much conservatives love them some black cock.

Yeah...I see what you're getting at.
Tortured souls are ruled by their emotions and feelings, not common sense.

Unconscious Reactions Separate Liberals and Conservatives
On topics where liberals and conservatives will never see eye to eye, opposing sides can try to cultivate mutual respect. In The Righteous Mind, Haidt identifies several areas of morality. Liberals, he says, tend to value two of them: caring for people who are vulnerable and fairness, which for liberals tends to mean sharing resources equally. Conservatives care about those things, too, but for them fairness means proportionality—that people should get what they deserve based on the amount of effort they have put in. Conservatives also emphasize loyalty and authority>, values helpful for maintaining a stable society.

In a 2009 study Haidt and two of his colleagues presented more than 8,000 people with a series of hypothetical actions. Among them: kick a dog in the head; discard a box of ballots to help your candidate win; publicly bet against a favorite sports team; curse your parents to their faces; and receive a blood transfusion from a child molester. Participants had to say whether they would do these deeds for money and, if so, for how much—$10? $1,000? $100,000? More? Liberals were reluctant to harm a living thing or act unfairly, even for $1 million, but they were willing to betray group loyalty, disrespect authority or do something disgusting, such as eating their own dog after it dies, for cash. Conservatives said they were less willing to compromise on any of the moral categories.

Haidt has a message for both sides. He wants the left to acknowledge that the right's emphasis on laws, institutions, customs and religion is valuable. Conservatives recognize that democracy is a huge achievement and that maintaining the social order requires imposing constraints on people. Liberal values, on the other hand, also serve important roles: ensuring that the rights of weaker members of society are respected; limiting the harmful effects, such as pollution, that corporations sometimes pass on to others; and fostering innovation by supporting diverse ideas and ways of life.

Haidt is not out to change people's deepest moral beliefs. Yet he thinks that if people could see that those they disagree with are not immoral but simply emphasizing different moral principles, some of the antagonism would subside. Intriguingly, Haidt himself has morphed from liberal to centrist over the course of his research. He now finds value in conservative tenets that he used to reject reflexively: “It's yin and yang. Both sides see different threats; both sides are wise to different virtues.”
Image

ALABAMA: FOX News / God / Impeach Obama / Jesus / Jessica Simpson / Obama Is The Antichrist / Polka / Satan

UTAH: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints / Def Leppard (band) / Demolition Derby / Girls Gone Wild / Global Warming Hoax / Jay Leno / Kama Sutra / Laser Hair Removal / Magic Tricks / Mustaches / Star Trek / Star Wars / Twinkie / Tinder / Twilight (book series) / Weird Al Yankovic (singer) / What is the internet?

Image
1). You think I disagree with your article? :)

2). Porn searches.

Keep trying! :clap:
Image
Image
Image
Baldy
Level4
Level4
Posts: 9903
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Southern

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Baldy »

kalm wrote: 1). You think I disagree with your article? :)

2). Porn searches.

Keep trying! :clap:
1. Didn't say you did. You also didn't disagree with my statement. :thumb:

2. You lose...again. Top Porn searches in Utah: #1 Teen #2 Compilation #3 Anal #4 MILF #5 Massage...#10 Lesbian.

Gay didn't make the top 10.

Next. :coffee:

:lol:
User avatar
Cap'n Cat
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 13614
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:38 am
I am a fan of: Mostly myself.
A.K.A.: LabiaInTheSunlight

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Cap'n Cat »

Conks, Conks, Conks. Shame.

:ohno:
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by JohnStOnge »

Then why were communists persecuted almost to the extent that Jews were in Hitler's Germany?
Because he was worried about the Soviet Union. The Statement that Hitler was the head of the National Socialist Workers Party is just a fact. Hitler was the head of that and Stalin was the dictator of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It is what it is.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25042
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by houndawg »

JohnStOnge wrote:
Then why were communists persecuted almost to the extent that Jews were in Hitler's Germany?
Because he was worried about the Soviet Union. The Statement that Hitler was the head of the National Socialist Workers Party is just a fact. Hitler was the head of that and Stalin was the dictator of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It is what it is.
Stop the presses. :roll:



Its this kind of amazing revelation that keeps me coming back here. :coffee:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
Ibanez
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 60519
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:16 pm
I am a fan of: Coastal Carolina

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Ibanez »

Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Apparently that didn't matter since Hitler loathed Commies, blamed them for many of the same "crimes" as the Jews, Catholics, gypsies, homosexuals, etc... and waged a war against them. :lol:
Stop lying to yourself and go read a statistics manual. :coffee:
Whoops. My mistake.
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
User avatar
Skjellyfetti
Anal
Anal
Posts: 14622
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

Post by Skjellyfetti »

JohnStOnge wrote:
Then why were communists persecuted almost to the extent that Jews were in Hitler's Germany?
Because he was worried about the Soviet Union. The Statement that Hitler was the head of the National Socialist Workers Party is just a fact. Hitler was the head of that and Stalin was the dictator of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It is what it is.
Just because it was called the "National Socialist Workers Party" doesn't make it so.

Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) a democratic republic because it calls itself one? :rofl:
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
Post Reply