2015 National Championship - NDSU vs Jacksonville St

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2015 National Championship - NDSU vs Jacksonville St

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5-peat?

Or OVC breakthrough?
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Bison stop the run and make JSU a one dimensional passing team. Still a close game, Bison 23, JSU 17.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Bison stop the run and make JSU a one dimensional passing team. Still a close game, Bison 23, JSU 17.
Not sure how you get to 23 with that kicker of yours.
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I must admit that last game by Jacksonville State gives me pause. But I'm going to hope North Dakota State wins because Jacksonville State is now another transfer whore program. I want to see the program that does things the noble way in that it recruits high school players, is loyal to them, and develops them instead of going out every year and kicking its high school recruits to the curb as it brings in all the transfers it can get.

And I'm hopeful. Yes, Jacksonville State really kicked the crap out of Sam Houston State. But Sam Houston State was weak on defense. Especially against the run. I am hopeful that Jacksonville State is going to find that it's difficult to run the ball against North Dakota State.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I must admit that last game by Jacksonville State gives me pause. But I'm going to hope North Dakota State wins because Jacksonville State is now another transfer whore program. I want to see the program that does things the noble way in that it recruits high school players, is loyal to them, and develops them instead of going out every year and kicking its high school recruits to the curb as it brings in all the transfers it can get.

And I'm hopeful. Yes, Jacksonville State really kicked the crap out of Sam Houston State. But Sam Houston State was weak on defense. Especially against the run. I am hopeful that Jacksonville State is going to find that it's difficult to run the ball against North Dakota State.
How many transfers does one have to have to be a transfer whore program? And is it limited to I-A transfer or do JUCOs count as well?
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# of I-A transfer I count listed on the semi final teams:
-SHSU: 18
-JSU: 9 (6 SEC)
-UR: 5
-NDSU: 1 (RB Frazier)
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BDKJMU wrote:# of I-A transfer I count listed on the semi final teams:
-SHSU: 18
-JSU: 9 (6 SEC)
-UR: 5
-NDSU: 1 (RB Frazier)
And how many of those transfers are starters? A transfer who isn't starting hasn't really kicked anyone to the curb.
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dbackjon wrote:5-peat?

Or OVC breakthrough?
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Jacksonville in a rout.
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And how many of those transfers are starters?
As far as I can tell 9 of Sam Houston State's starters against Jacksonville State were FBS transfers including 7 of 11 offensive starters. I say that because their two deep for that game on their game notes shows 8 starters total and 6 of 11 on offense but it shows Johnson as the starter at quarterback and Briscoe started.

And, obviously, it's the offensive side of the ball that's the stronger side for Sam Houston State. As of now they're still ranked #1 in FCS total offense and 83rd in total defense. They weren't in the playoffs because of their defense.

If the numbers y'all put up are correct Jacksonville State's not as much a transfer whore program as I thought it was.
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BDKJMU wrote:# of I-A transfer I count listed on the semi final teams:
-SHSU: 18
-JSU: 9 (6 SEC)
-UR: 5
-NDSU: 1 (RB Frazier)
I think you'd all agree that if you removed all FBS transfers from the four teams North Dakota State would be just about as good. Losing that one starting running back would hurt some but they've got other good backs. They'd have a good chance of still being in the championship game without him.

But Sam Houston State almost certainly would not have been in the semifinals and may not have even made the playoffs without FBS transfers. Those are the two extremes among the four.
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Better get moving here folks. Just checked AGS, and the comparable thread has 562 posts so far. :lol:

That said, NDSU wins every year until proven otherwise. Sad, but true.
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Looking at their roster, I count ELEVEN OL for NDSU 6'3"-6'7", 300-326 lbs. That's a lot of big boys...
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D1B wrote:Jacksonville in a rout.

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If that happens, hats off to JSU.
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AshevilleApp wrote:Better get moving here folks. Just checked AGS, and the comparable thread has 562 posts so far. :lol:
And half of them from the same 4 posters :nod:
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dbackjon wrote:
AshevilleApp wrote:Better get moving here folks. Just checked AGS, and the comparable thread has 562 posts so far. :lol:
And half of them from the same 4 posters :nod:
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Rooting for Jax State. NoDaks too stolid for me.
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Ivytalk wrote:Rooting for Jax State. NoDaks too stolid for me.

Same here
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Ivytalk wrote:Rooting for Jax State. NoDaks too stolid for me.
I didn't know what "stolid" meant until after I saw it in that post and looked it up. But now that I know what it means I can say I like stolid. I like teams like that.
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Did they play this yet? When is it?
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93henfan wrote:Did they play this yet? When is it?
Not enough NDSU or JSU fans on this site to keep you up to date, eh!
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Jack St Ready

Chris Landrum said. “We’re gonna go in there and treat it like any other game.”

JSU is 2-0 all time against North Dakota State with both games coming in the Division II Playoffs in 1977 and 1989. The Gamecocks are the first Ohio Valley Conference team to appear in the FCS Championship Game since Eastern Kentucky in 1982.

Kickoff for the game is set for 11:00 a.m. central time and can be seen on ESPN2.
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Jack St preparing for 2 QB's

Redshirt freshman Easton Stick has started the last eight games for the Bison, filling in for standout senior Carson Wentz, who is sidelined following surgery on a fractured right (throwing) wrist. North Dakota State coach Chris Klieman said he wasn't yet sure which one would start Saturday.

"We're excited where Easton's at right now, and being a redshirt freshman, where the future is for that position," Klieman said. "As far as Carson is concerned, we'll all find out on Saturday whether he'll play or not. He's not been cleared yet and we'll continue to progress."

Stick (6-foot-2, 215 pounds) has been a dual-threat for the Bison, completing 62.1 percent of his passes (90-for-145) for 1,144 yards with 13 touchdowns and just three interceptions in 10 games (eight starts). He has added five touchdowns and 498 yards rushing, totals that rank second on the team.

Wentz (6-6, 235) is much more of a traditional pocket passer, completing 63.7 percent of his passes (114-for-179) for 1,464 yards and 16 touchdowns with just two interceptions in seven games (six starts). The fifth-year senior is regarded as a potential first-round draft pick in the 2016 NFL draft and has accepted an invitation to the Reese's Senior Bowl.
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Chris Landrum said. “We’re gonna go in there and treat it like any other game.”
Why do people lie like that? I mean really. There's no way you're going to go in there against a program that has only lost one FCS playoff game in its history and hasn't lost one since 2010 in a game that's for the national championship and treat it like any other game. That's ridiculous. Why even say that?
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