I'm sure God still loves you.Chizzang wrote:I'm not neutral on Religion89Hen wrote: Would you care to link all your posts that cast a positive light on religion? I sure can post dozens that don't.
I'm not neutral on politics or religion, I have no problem admitting that. You on the other hand seem to want to pretend.
I will tell you right to your face that if you think the books of the Bible are anything more than ancient dogma scripted decades after the wildly exaggerated events and crafted around gross hyperbole into a giant global corporation basing its success entirely on the stupidity of the average human...
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THAT ^ is Christianity circa 2015 my friend (and good luck with that)
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
At least you're taking defeat like a man.kalm wrote:Meh. Man rescues cat.89Hen wrote: Would you care to link all your posts that cast a positive light on religion? I sure can post dozens that don't.
I'm not neutral on politics or religion, I have no problem admitting that. You on the other hand seem to want to pretend.
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
NO?! That comes as a shock.Chizzang wrote:I'm not neutral on Religion89Hen wrote: Would you care to link all your posts that cast a positive light on religion? I sure can post dozens that don't.
I'm not neutral on politics or religion, I have no problem admitting that. You on the other hand seem to want to pretend.

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And cleverly ^ isn't that really just the point...GannonFan wrote:I'm sure God still loves you.Chizzang wrote:
I'm not neutral on Religion
I will tell you right to your face that if you think the books of the Bible are anything more than ancient dogma scripted decades after the wildly exaggerated events and crafted around gross hyperbole into a giant global corporation basing its success entirely on the stupidity of the average human...
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THAT ^ is Christianity circa 2015 my friend (and good luck with that)
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Whatever "God" is or is not - the "evidence" here on earth is equally slanted towards "God is a monster" as it is "God is all loving"...
But pretending to know what God wants should be a jail sentence in the real world
15 years in Federal Prison for pretending You know what God wants
Like pretending to be a Doctor or Pretending to be a Federal Agent - its dishonest at the highest level
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
Chizz, we're already established you are not neutral, you can stop now.Chizzang wrote:And cleverly ^ isn't that really just the point...GannonFan wrote:
I'm sure God still loves you.
Whatever "God" is or is not - the "evidence" here on earth is equally slanted towards "God is a monster" as it is "God is all loving"...
But pretending to know what God wants should be a jail sentence in the real world
15 years in Federal Prison for pretending You know what God wants

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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
Dude..!!!89Hen wrote:Chizz, we're already established you are not neutral, you can stop now.Chizzang wrote:
And cleverly ^ isn't that really just the point...
Whatever "God" is or is not - the "evidence" here on earth is equally slanted towards "God is a monster" as it is "God is all loving"...
But pretending to know what God wants should be a jail sentence in the real world
15 years in Federal Prison for pretending You know what God wants
Somebody said "Smug Prick" and I said "Hit the lights baby I'm on.."
It's prime time for me...
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Prison sentences for religious beliefs, interesting choice. Might be tough to get that amendment passed through.Chizzang wrote:And cleverly ^ isn't that really just the point...GannonFan wrote:
I'm sure God still loves you.
Whatever "God" is or is not - the "evidence" here on earth is equally slanted towards "God is a monster" as it is "God is all loving"...
But pretending to know what God wants should be a jail sentence in the real world
15 years in Federal Prison for pretending You know what God wants
Like pretending to be a Doctor or Pretending to be a Federal Agent - its dishonest at the highest level
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
Think about it... Distinctly NOT RELIGIOUS BELIEFSGannonFan wrote:Prison sentences for religious beliefs, interesting choice. Might be tough to get that amendment passed through.Chizzang wrote:
And cleverly ^ isn't that really just the point...
Whatever "God" is or is not - the "evidence" here on earth is equally slanted towards "God is a monster" as it is "God is all loving"...
But pretending to know what God wants should be a jail sentence in the real world
15 years in Federal Prison for pretending You know what God wants
Like pretending to be a Doctor or Pretending to be a Federal Agent - its dishonest at the highest level
but pretending to know something you cannot know
and thus affecting the lives of others - god told me he'd heal your cancer (for $1500 donation)
How serious is it to pretend you're a doctor or a Police officer ..?
Pretending to know what God wants has effectively changed the course of human history
and not in a good way
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So it's just like that thread with the useless "upper class and middle class" income level. Another kalm troll thread.Pwns wrote:Oh look, another example of someone thinking they're clever posting color-coded maps and showing social and economic problems being higher in southern states.
There's no need for a drawn-out JSO answer. It's called the Ecological Fallacy. There is no uniform distribution across states of age, denomination, race, and other factors like that. You have to make corrections for demographics or comparisons aren't useful.
Or is the point of the article in the OP to show that places with more of the less evolved darkies have more social problems?
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So acting out on your religious beliefs, in any way that could affect the lives of others, would be punishable by jail? Where does the line get drawn? It's easy to bring up someone having someone else fork over thousands of dollars for a supposed promise from God. How about building a church in a neighborhood, is that too much of an impact on people's lives who live in the neighborhood? How about a church ringing church bells during the day? Jail time for that? How about people putting Christmas displays on their yard? Jail time for that? Where do you draw the line for allowable acting out on a religious belief and not allowable?Chizzang wrote:Think about it... Distinctly NOT RELIGIOUS BELIEFSGannonFan wrote:
Prison sentences for religious beliefs, interesting choice. Might be tough to get that amendment passed through.
but pretending to know something you cannot know
and thus affecting the lives of others - god told me he'd heal your cancer (for $1500 donation)
How serious is it to pretend you're a doctor or a Police officer ..?
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Pretending to know what God wants has effectively changed the course of human history
and not in a good way
Human beings have changed the course of human history, and not in a good way (sometimes, although many times in a good way too, but you seem to be quite the negative type). Religion is a tool for that, nothing more.
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Which is ^ precisely why the overt fraud that has been perpetrated on humanityGannonFan wrote:So acting out on your religious beliefs, in any way that could affect the lives of others, would be punishable by jail? Where does the line get drawn? It's easy to bring up someone having someone else fork over thousands of dollars for a supposed promise from God. How about building a church in a neighborhood, is that too much of an impact on people's lives who live in the neighborhood? How about a church ringing church bells during the day? Jail time for that? How about people putting Christmas displays on their yard? Jail time for that? Where do you draw the line for allowable acting out on a religious belief and not allowable?Chizzang wrote:
Think about it... Distinctly NOT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
but pretending to know something you cannot know
and thus affecting the lives of others - god told me he'd heal your cancer (for $1500 donation)
How serious is it to pretend you're a doctor or a Police officer ..?
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Pretending to know what God wants has effectively changed the course of human history
and not in a good way
Human beings have changed the course of human history, and not in a good way (sometimes, although many times in a good way too, but you seem to be quite the negative type). Religion is a tool for that, nothing more.
for the last some thousands of years hides right in front of our faces - because we "honor" fraud
Fraud in the name of something sacred
To me that is the highest order of deceit - the deepest level of depravity
At least Wall Street and British Petroleum tell your their motives as they steal from you
All any Atheist or someone like me who loves the idea of God
Wants manufactured Religion to admit is just the truth - which is - that they don't know
But "I don;t know" doesn't make much money or control the minds of the feeble
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A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
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You are stretching things to fit your narrative.Chizzang wrote: Think about it... Distinctly NOT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
but pretending to know something you cannot know
and thus affecting the lives of others - god told me he'd heal your cancer (for $1500 donation)
How serious is it to pretend you're a doctor or a Police officer ..?
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Pretending to know what God wants has effectively changed the course of human history
and not in a good way
It is easy to prove whether a person is a doctor or lawyer.
It is not easy to prove, or disprove, whether someone knows what God wants.
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No, it's actually pretty much impossible for some to prove that THEY and they alone know what God wants.CAA Flagship wrote:You are stretching things to fit your narrative.Chizzang wrote: Think about it... Distinctly NOT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
but pretending to know something you cannot know
and thus affecting the lives of others - god told me he'd heal your cancer (for $1500 donation)
How serious is it to pretend you're a doctor or a Police officer ..?
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Pretending to know what God wants has effectively changed the course of human history
and not in a good way![]()
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It is easy to prove whether a person is a doctor or lawyer.
It is not easy to prove, or disprove, whether someone knows what God wants.
But I'm sure that preacher down south who convinced his congregation that Jesus wanted him to have a new Gulfstream made a compelling case.
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
But Gulfstreams are cool.Grizalltheway wrote:No, it's actually pretty much impossible for some to prove that THEY and they alone know what God wants.CAA Flagship wrote: You are stretching things to fit your narrative.![]()
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It is easy to prove whether a person is a doctor or lawyer.
It is not easy to prove, or disprove, whether someone knows what God wants.
But I'm sure that preacher down south who convinced his congregation that Jesus wanted him to have a new Gulfstream made a compelling case.
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So now businesses are in on it too, they just "steal", they don't provide any goods or services? Yikes, even regular cynicism would be an optimistic view of things compared to your outlook on things. I think plenty of religious people, at the root of it, don't "know". That's what faith is, believing without the hard evidence to surely, without question, "know".Chizzang wrote:Which is ^ precisely why the overt fraud that has been perpetrated on humanityGannonFan wrote:
So acting out on your religious beliefs, in any way that could affect the lives of others, would be punishable by jail? Where does the line get drawn? It's easy to bring up someone having someone else fork over thousands of dollars for a supposed promise from God. How about building a church in a neighborhood, is that too much of an impact on people's lives who live in the neighborhood? How about a church ringing church bells during the day? Jail time for that? How about people putting Christmas displays on their yard? Jail time for that? Where do you draw the line for allowable acting out on a religious belief and not allowable?
Human beings have changed the course of human history, and not in a good way (sometimes, although many times in a good way too, but you seem to be quite the negative type). Religion is a tool for that, nothing more.
for the last some thousands of years hides right in front of our faces - because we "honor" fraud
Fraud in the name of something sacred
To me that is the highest order of deceit - the deepest level of depravity
At least Wall Street and British Petroleum tell your their motives as they steal from you
All any Atheist or someone like me who loves the idea of God
Wants manufactured Religion to admit is just the truth - which is - that they don't know
But "I don;t know" doesn't make much money or control the minds of the feeble
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I would have acknowledged PWNS intriguing point but just like partisanship and religious identity, I've also risen above racialism.SDHornet wrote:So it's just like that thread with the useless "upper class and middle class" income level. Another kalm troll thread.Pwns wrote:Oh look, another example of someone thinking they're clever posting color-coded maps and showing social and economic problems being higher in southern states.
There's no need for a drawn-out JSO answer. It's called the Ecological Fallacy. There is no uniform distribution across states of age, denomination, race, and other factors like that. You have to make corrections for demographics or comparisons aren't useful.
Or is the point of the article in the OP to show that places with more of the less evolved darkies have more social problems?
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
This is still cracking me the fuck up!Chizzang wrote:Dude..!!!89Hen wrote: Chizz, we're already established you are not neutral, you can stop now.
Somebody said "Smug Prick" and I said "Hit the lights baby I'm on.."
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It's prime time for me...
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
You crafted an entire thread for my pet stage showkalm wrote:This is still cracking me the fuck up!Chizzang wrote:
Dude..!!!
Somebody said "Smug Prick" and I said "Hit the lights baby I'm on.."
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It's prime time for me...
God Bless you - you magnificent bastard
Its a role I was born to play
Like Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music or Judy Garland in Wizard of Oz
I am "Smug Prick" starring in Random Religious thread
and the usual dullards have been serving up softballs - its glorious
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A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
Especially when it destroys your narrative.kalm wrote:I would have acknowledged PWNS intriguing point but just like partisanship and religious identity, I've also risen above racialism.SDHornet wrote: So it's just like that thread with the useless "upper class and middle class" income level. Another kalm troll thread.
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Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
More like Bambi Woods in Debbie Does Dallas.Chizzang wrote:You crafted an entire thread for my pet stage showkalm wrote:
This is still cracking me the fuck up!
God Bless you - you magnificent bastard
Its a role I was born to play
Like Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music or Judy Garland in Wizard of Oz
I am "Smug Prick" starring in Random Religious thread
and the usual dullards have been serving up softballs - its glorious
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OkayCAA Flagship wrote:More like Bambi Woods in Debbie Does Dallas.Chizzang wrote:
You crafted an entire thread for my pet stage show
God Bless you - you magnificent bastard
Its a role I was born to play
Like Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music or Judy Garland in Wizard of Oz
I am "Smug Prick" starring in Random Religious thread
and the usual dullards have been serving up softballs - its glorious
Sure, you say potato I say Po-Tah-to
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Not at all. I think it's time for southern christian conservatives to finally let loose the shackles of demographics as excuses for their standing!Baldy wrote:Especially when it destroys your narrative.kalm wrote:
I would have acknowledged PWNS intriguing point but just like partisanship and religious identity, I've also risen above racialism.![]()
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Indeed,kalm wrote:Not at all. I think it's time for southern christian conservatives to finally let loose the shackles of demographics as excuses for their standing!Baldy wrote: Especially when it destroys your narrative.![]()
Demographics is never allowable when discussing ISLAM
but perfectly acceptable when discussing Christianity
Curious...
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Can't comment on all the data. But I did look at the High School graduation rates by County in North Carolina, since I actually know the state fairly well. Amazingly enough, those with the higher graduation rates are more often than not those with Democratic majorities. Obviously this data is flawed. 
Re: Conservatism + Religiosity = Fail?
You and kalmChizzang wrote:Indeed,kalm wrote:
Not at all. I think it's time for southern christian conservatives to finally let loose the shackles of demographics as excuses for their standing!
Demographics is never allowable when discussing ISLAM
but perfectly acceptable when discussing Christianity
Curious...
Hint:
Read and understand the nuance in AshevilleApps response above.



