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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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CID1990 wrote:Several weeks of intel...

Indicating Al Qaeda was going to attack assets in Benghazi

Several attacks that Al Qaeda had said they would carry out had already been carried out (like on the UK Ambassador)

I think the question here isn't whether or not military assets had time to respond. The question is - why weren't they in place ahead of time so that their ability to respond wouldn't have been an issue?

Could it be because Al Qaeda was on the run, Bin Laden was dead, and General Motors was alive?

Smells a lot like

Mission Accomplished
Are you implying that it was Obama's decision or lack of micro-managing that is at fault? Sort of like Bush ignoring the warnings regarding 9/11?

(serious question because this is your arena so to speak)

Pre 9/11 ignoring warnings could be excused. Post 9/11, not so much.
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Maybe.....then again...maybe not......might have saved the troops from walking into a "Blackhawk Down" situation...
Only that's what the troops TRAIN for...the Ambassador? Not so much...
I guess they didn't get enough training for Somalia... :coffee:
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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houndawg wrote:
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Only that's what the troops TRAIN for...the Ambassador? Not so much...
I guess they didn't get enough training for Somalia... :coffee:
Nope. And the lesson was learned...that's they way it works...
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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expandspanos wrote:Like I've been Saying All Along

There IS NO EMBASSY IN BENGHAZI

THERE IS NO CONSULATE IN BENGHAZI


Here is a list of all US Embassies, Consulates, and Missions; http://www.usembassy.gov/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Notice anything in Benghazi? It isn't listed because IT DOESNT EXIST.

Was There Ever a Real “U.S. Consulate” in Benghazi?

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/15/was ... -benghazi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the many news reports published since the tragic and mysterious assassinations of four Americans in Libya on September 11, 2012, the scene of the terrorist attack is referred to variously as the “U.S. consulate” in Benghazi, the “U.S. mission” in Benghazi, or even as an American “embassy” in Benghazi.

Although President Obama in his news conference yesterday did little to bring greater clarity to what really happened in Libya, a look at several U.S. State Department websites might at least eliminate one of the many unknowns in this case: None of the official U.S. government websites refers to an actual U.S. “consulate” in Benghazi.

Consulates are Foreign Service posts that issue visas and passports, provide other American citizen services, and do day-to-day political and economic reporting as well as U.S. State Department “Front Office” diplomatic representation. Clearly the people in the facilities that were attacked in Benghazi (and we know little about them beyond the identities of those who were killed) were not doing that.

There are legitimate and real consulates in nearby countries—for example in Alexandria, Egypt, and in Casablanca, Morocco. The American public may be certain that those brick-and-mortar U.S. government facilities actually exist—in part because there are pictures of them and links to them on the websites of the U.S. embassies in Cairo and Rabat.

But the website of the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, Libya, contains no link to a consulate in Benghazi (or anywhere else in Libya, for that matter). Likewise, the Key Officers List—the State Department’s continually updated guide to all U.S. diplomatic facilities worldwide—contains no information about a consulate in Benghazi, but it does list the addresses and names of senior personnel assigned to the U.S. consulates in Egypt and Morocco.

So if U.S. government websites do not list the diplomatic facilities attacked by terrorists in Benghazi in September as a genuine “consulate” in the traditional sense, then what was it? And whatever it was, why wasn’t it adequately protected?

Hmmm.. guess everyone forgot I was right about this one.

Apparently the media just makes stuff up as they go, and people like me calling them out are called nuts and annoying.
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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expandspanos wrote:
expandspanos wrote:Like I've been Saying All Along

There IS NO EMBASSY IN BENGHAZI

THERE IS NO CONSULATE IN BENGHAZI


Here is a list of all US Embassies, Consulates, and Missions; http://www.usembassy.gov/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Notice anything in Benghazi? It isn't listed because IT DOESNT EXIST.

Was There Ever a Real “U.S. Consulate” in Benghazi?

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/15/was ... -benghazi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the many news reports published since the tragic and mysterious assassinations of four Americans in Libya on September 11, 2012, the scene of the terrorist attack is referred to variously as the “U.S. consulate” in Benghazi, the “U.S. mission” in Benghazi, or even as an American “embassy” in Benghazi.

Although President Obama in his news conference yesterday did little to bring greater clarity to what really happened in Libya, a look at several U.S. State Department websites might at least eliminate one of the many unknowns in this case: None of the official U.S. government websites refers to an actual U.S. “consulate” in Benghazi.

Consulates are Foreign Service posts that issue visas and passports, provide other American citizen services, and do day-to-day political and economic reporting as well as U.S. State Department “Front Office” diplomatic representation. Clearly the people in the facilities that were attacked in Benghazi (and we know little about them beyond the identities of those who were killed) were not doing that.

There are legitimate and real consulates in nearby countries—for example in Alexandria, Egypt, and in Casablanca, Morocco. The American public may be certain that those brick-and-mortar U.S. government facilities actually exist—in part because there are pictures of them and links to them on the websites of the U.S. embassies in Cairo and Rabat.

But the website of the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, Libya, contains no link to a consulate in Benghazi (or anywhere else in Libya, for that matter). Likewise, the Key Officers List—the State Department’s continually updated guide to all U.S. diplomatic facilities worldwide—contains no information about a consulate in Benghazi, but it does list the addresses and names of senior personnel assigned to the U.S. consulates in Egypt and Morocco.

So if U.S. government websites do not list the diplomatic facilities attacked by terrorists in Benghazi in September as a genuine “consulate” in the traditional sense, then what was it? And whatever it was, why wasn’t it adequately protected?

Hmmm.. guess everyone forgot I was right about this one.

Apparently the media just makes stuff up as they go, and people like me calling them out are called nuts and annoying.
What you call it doesn't matter, Spudnuts. The reason it wasn't protected is that Congress cut the security budget. As usual you have, a la JSO, spent your time fvcking a fly's ass while the real story went right over your head. :roll:

Here's what you need to be investigating - the eight, so far, Benghazi hearings have only served to strengthen Hillary's position to the point that Trey Gowdy's career is pretty much over and Hillary is coming away from the hearings with greater public sympathy as the facts come out and the tide continues to turn in her favor. What this means is that the corporate owners of the media have decided, along with all but the most partisan conks, that the republicans have nothing, their hearings have made Hillary a shoe in for the election, and that they would much rather have a malleable candidate than a hard ass non-millionaire like Sanders. Why aren't you on top of this blatant attempt to remove Sanders from the serious consideration he deserves? WTF do you do with your time when this stuff is happening right under your nose? :ohno:
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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houndawg wrote:
expandspanos wrote:

Hmmm.. guess everyone forgot I was right about this one.

Apparently the media just makes stuff up as they go, and people like me calling them out are called nuts and annoying.
What you call it doesn't matter, Spudnuts. The reason it wasn't protected is that Congress cut the security budget
That is a complete falsehood but as a loyal foot soldier for the Obama administration I wouldn't expect you to know any different.

The State Department budget is a blanket budget- there are no separately funded pieces, like "security". Congress funds DoS (when they actually pass a budget) and DoS prioritizes how to allocate it.

repeat over and over: Al Qaeda is on the run and GM is alive and well......

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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
What you call it doesn't matter, Spudnuts. The reason it wasn't protected is that Congress cut the security budget
That is a complete falsehood but as a loyal foot soldier for the Obama administration I wouldn't expect you to know any different.

The State Department budget is a blanket budget- there are no separately funded pieces, like "security". Congress funds DoS (when they actually pass a budget) and DoS prioritizes how to allocate it.

repeat over and over: Al Qaeda is on the run and GM is alive and well......

good boy

...we just killed their #2 man...
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Re: 60 Minutes Segment on Benghazi

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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is a complete falsehood but as a loyal foot soldier for the Obama administration I wouldn't expect you to know any different.

The State Department budget is a blanket budget- there are no separately funded pieces, like "security". Congress funds DoS (when they actually pass a budget) and DoS prioritizes how to allocate it.

repeat over and over: Al Qaeda is on the run and GM is alive and well......

good boy

...we just killed their #2 man...
Well now that the middle east is a place of wine and roses we should see resorts popping up in Palmyra any day now

BTW glad to see you agree with my correcting you on your blatant talking point falsehood
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

...we just killed their #2 man...
Well now that the middle east is a place of wine and roses we should see resorts popping up in Palmyra any day now

BTW glad to see you agree with my correcting you on your blatant talking point falsehood
Its always nice to have a level-headed moderate with insider knowledge of the federal guvmint around. Keep up the good work. :thumb:
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http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs ... ghazi-but/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The cover-up is unraveling.
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CAA Flagship wrote:http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs ... ghazi-but/

The cover-up is unraveling.
Interesting.

I've been reading a lot about the FBI's investigation into Clinton and have to say, the guy leading it is the right person for the job. If the FBI uncovers something and the Justice Department doesn't act, then Obama and Clinton's legacies will be totally tarnished (moreso than they already are.)
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CAA Flagship wrote:http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs ... ghazi-but/

The cover-up is unraveling.
Allen West... :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs ... ghazi-but/

The cover-up is unraveling.
Allen West... :rofl:
Yeah. I like Adam West more.

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Ibanez wrote:If the FBI uncovers something and the Justice Department doesn't act, then Obama and Clinton's legacies will be totally tarnished
Among whom?

They have their Jons and they don't care about you or me because we are just rubes.

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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/12/bombs ... ghazi-but/

The cover-up is unraveling.
Interesting.

I've been reading a lot about the FBI's investigation into Clinton and have to say, the guy leading it is the right person for the job. If the FBI uncovers something and the Justice Department doesn't act, then Obama and Clinton's legacies will be totally tarnished (moreso than they already are.)
Meh. Unless Hildabeast is indicted, she'll still be POTUS. Nothing to see here, move along...
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SDHornet wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Interesting.

I've been reading a lot about the FBI's investigation into Clinton and have to say, the guy leading it is the right person for the job. If the FBI uncovers something and the Justice Department doesn't act, then Obama and Clinton's legacies will be totally tarnished (moreso than they already are.)
Meh. Unless Hildabeast is indicted, she'll still be POTUS. Nothing to see here, move along...
I'm thinking Obama gets a 3rd term by popular demand, I just filled my truck for $30. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Meh. Unless Hildabeast is indicted, she'll still be POTUS. Nothing to see here, move along...
I'm thinking Obama gets a 3rd term by popular demand, I just filled my truck for $30. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Meh. Unless Hildabeast is indicted, she'll still be POTUS. Nothing to see here, move along...
I'm thinking Obama gets a 3rd term by popular demand, I just filled my truck for $30. :thumb:
On a foreign policy standpoint Hildabeast would be a 3rd Obama term. So you have that going for you...
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houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Meh. Unless Hildabeast is indicted, she'll still be POTUS. Nothing to see here, move along...
I'm thinking Obama gets a 3rd term by popular demand, I just filled my truck for $30. :thumb:
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Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I'm thinking Obama gets a 3rd term by popular demand, I just filled my truck for $30. :thumb:
Those Tonka trucks are great! :coffee:
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