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Re: Abortion Waiting Periods Are Illegal

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JoltinJoe wrote:
kalm wrote:Because..............SATAN!!!

Abortion is legal. How can the state deny her religious rights?



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Pwns wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the point they are making is ? :?
They're not really trying to make a point. They're just trolls.
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FUNNEST thread ever..!!!
What the heck do we all come here for - if not to bandy about - the ridiculous and the sublime..?
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Re: Abortion Waiting Periods Are Illegal

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89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the point they are making is ? :?
They're not really trying to make a point. They're just trolls.
For Mephistopheles sake, that took you long enough.
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Re: Abortion Waiting Periods Are Illegal

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
1) Guns are legal too- they're even specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Waiting periods have still been found Constitutional.

2) I said ESTABLISHED religion before that. You don't get to make things up on the spot. Selective reading on your part. Disagree if you like, but that's the standard. Citizens United!!!!!!

3) More selective... pablum from you - a 72 hour waiting period is required for many things- especially those things with a level of gravity like killing a baby or buying a gun, or even renouncing your citizenship (which also requires a waiting period) - gives you time to think about what you're doing. None of these things are being denied.

If miss satanist was being denied an abortion then you'd have a point. But they aren't and you don't.
1) Abortion is established doctrine just like guns

2) Define "established religion" and who gets to determine if/what is "established"? And what does CU have to do with this?

3) Nice dodge on the state ordered proselytizing. I'd stay away from that one too.
The First Amendment doesn't protect the "free exercise" of a political agenda feigning to be "religion."

Courts decide whether a movement is a religion protected by the First Amendment on a case-by-case basis by consideration of whether the "religious" beliefs of the movement are "sincere and meaningful." US v. Ballard (1944). Here, the movement expressly disavows that its members actually believe in Satan. Further, to the extent the members have "religious" beliefs, those beliefs are not meaningful, as their beliefs are simply adopted to irritate Christians and are often chosen simply to oppose Christianity on political grounds.

So the lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed (preferably with sanctions).

That being said, any political movement can challenge any law based on the non-establishment clause, or any other valid reason.

But feigning to be a religious group isn't going to work.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Abortion is established doctrine just like guns

2) Define "established religion" and who gets to determine if/what is "established"? And what does CU have to do with this?

3) Nice dodge on the state ordered proselytizing. I'd stay away from that one too.
The First Amendment doesn't protect the "free exercise" of a political agenda feigning to be "religion."

Courts decide whether a movement is a religion protected by the First Amendment on a case-by-case basis by consideration of whether the "religious" beliefs of the movement are "sincere and meaningful." US v. Ballard (1944). Here, the movement expressly disavows that its members actually believe in Satan. Further, to the extent the members have "religious" beliefs, those beliefs are not meaningful, as their beliefs are simply adopted to irritate Christians and are often chosen simply to oppose Christianity on political grounds.

So the lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed (preferably with sanctions).

That being said, any political movement can challenge any law based on the non-establishment clause, or any other valid reason.

But feigning to be a religious group isn't going to work.

Joe Joe Joe...
Feigning to be Religious defines America
Every f*cking Politician on the trail pretends to be "devoutly Religious" except Trump
Its what we do in America

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Things have changed since 1944
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89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the point they are making is ? :?
They're not really trying to make a point. They're just trolls.
Well, looks like they're doing the same stuff you and your pedophiles do to avoid paying your victims.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Abortion is established doctrine just like guns

2) Define "established religion" and who gets to determine if/what is "established"? And what does CU have to do with this?

3) Nice dodge on the state ordered proselytizing. I'd stay away from that one too.
The First Amendment doesn't protect the "free exercise" of a political agenda feigning to be "religion."

Courts decide whether a movement is a religion protected by the First Amendment on a case-by-case basis by consideration of whether the "religious" beliefs of the movement are "sincere and meaningful." US v. Ballard (1944). Here, the movement expressly disavows that its members actually believe in Satan. Further, to the extent the members have "religious" beliefs, those beliefs are not meaningful, as their beliefs are simply adopted to irritate Christians and are often chosen simply to oppose Christianity on political grounds.

So the lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed (preferably with sanctions).

That being said, any political movement can challenge any law based on the non-establishment clause, or any other valid reason.

But feigning to be a religious group isn't going to work.
I dunno Joe

Even Christians say there is actually a dude in a red suit with a pitchfork

In this day and age I'm sure some idiot will want to worship him

Personally if I'm gonna worship ANYONE they at least must have a vagina
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Re: Abortion Waiting Periods Are Illegal

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JoltinJoe wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Abortion is established doctrine just like guns

2) Define "established religion" and who gets to determine if/what is "established"? And what does CU have to do with this?

3) Nice dodge on the state ordered proselytizing. I'd stay away from that one too.
The First Amendment doesn't protect the "free exercise" of a political agenda feigning to be "religion."

Courts decide whether a movement is a religion protected by the First Amendment on a case-by-case basis by consideration of whether the "religious" beliefs of the movement are "sincere and meaningful." US v. Ballard (1944). Here, the movement expressly disavows that its members actually believe in Satan. Further, to the extent the members have "religious" beliefs, those beliefs are not meaningful, as their beliefs are simply adopted to irritate Christians and are often chosen simply to oppose Christianity on political grounds.

So the lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed (preferably with sanctions).

That being said, any political movement can challenge any law based on the non-establishment clause, or any other valid reason.

But feigning to be a religious group isn't going to work.
Fine, ya killjoy. :ohno:

But you at least are smart enough to get their point, right?
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: They're not really trying to make a point. They're just trolls.
For Mephistopheles sake, that took you long enough.
Not really. I told you from the start I wasn't biting.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
For Mephistopheles sake, that took you long enough.
Not really. I told you from the start I wasn't biting.
That's pretty much true. My apologies. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
The First Amendment doesn't protect the "free exercise" of a political agenda feigning to be "religion."

Courts decide whether a movement is a religion protected by the First Amendment on a case-by-case basis by consideration of whether the "religious" beliefs of the movement are "sincere and meaningful." US v. Ballard (1944). Here, the movement expressly disavows that its members actually believe in Satan. Further, to the extent the members have "religious" beliefs, those beliefs are not meaningful, as their beliefs are simply adopted to irritate Christians and are often chosen simply to oppose Christianity on political grounds.

So the lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed (preferably with sanctions).

That being said, any political movement can challenge any law based on the non-establishment clause, or any other valid reason.

But feigning to be a religious group isn't going to work.
Fine, ya killjoy. :ohno:

But you at least are smart enough to get their point, right?
Yes. Their point is Satan loves abortion. I knew that already. :coffee:
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This is OK though, right? I mean Satan loves education...

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Have you ever wondered what a Satanic children's coloring book might look like? Well, thanks to the great state of Florida you can now know for certain.

Behold, the "The Satanic Children’s Big Book of Activities," a coloring book that is being disseminated across Orange County public schools, according to Raw Story.

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We first encountered the unusual children's lit on artnet News, who aptly illuminated this story surely falls into the "only in Florida" category.

The details: A Christian group received permission to distribute Bibles and other religious materials to their students, leading atheist groups to appeal for an equal opportunity. It wasn't long before the Satanic community hopped on board as well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1 ... 46640.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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kalm wrote:This is OK though, right? I mean Satan loves education...

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Have you ever wondered what a Satanic children's coloring book might look like? Well, thanks to the great state of Florida you can now know for certain.

Behold, the "The Satanic Children’s Big Book of Activities," a coloring book that is being disseminated across Orange County public schools, according to Raw Story.

satanic coloring book 1

We first encountered the unusual children's lit on artnet News, who aptly illuminated this story surely falls into the "only in Florida" category.

The details: A Christian group received permission to distribute Bibles and other religious materials to their students, leading atheist groups to appeal for an equal opportunity. It wasn't long before the Satanic community hopped on board as well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1 ... 46640.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Abortion Waiting Periods Are Illegal

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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:This is OK though, right? I mean Satan loves education...

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1 ... 46640.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JJ already put you to bed on this one, klam

The way to stop your bleeding is to stop picking your own scabs
You are truly the dumbest atheist...ever.
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