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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
wow

one country's presence in another for commercial reasons

or using military forces to protect/guarantee commercial interests

for Chitz's next rant he'll explain for us why bears crap in the woods and that water is wet
:rofl:

The bears sh!t in the woods because of WMD's
But we've still got people saying we should leave Iraq...
so clearly they don't know why we're there (right?)


SO I keep telling them - we can't leave - and here's why
OF COURSE we can leave!

and then gas goes up to 4.50 per gallon (like it has been here in El Salvador since Ive been here) and then the unwashed masses rise up with their pitchforks and elect a Ron Paul or a Marge Fauxcahontas Warren to the oval office....

come to think of it.... Im not so sure being in Iraq is a bad thing after all
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:rofl:

The bears sh!t in the woods because of WMD's
But we've still got people saying we should leave Iraq...
so clearly they don't know why we're there (right?)


SO I keep telling them - we can't leave - and here's why
OF COURSE we can leave!

and then gas goes up to 4.50 per gallon (like it has been here in El Salvador since Ive been here) and then the unwashed masses rise up with their pitchforks and elect a Ron Paul or a Marge Fauxcahontas Warren to the oval office....

come to think of it.... Im not so sure being in Iraq is a bad thing after all
We can't leave:
With China in Iraq to the tune of 15 thousand employees...
and side deals being cut almost weekly on production and processing - we can not leave


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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
OF COURSE we can leave!

and then gas goes up to 4.50 per gallon (like it has been here in El Salvador since Ive been here) and then the unwashed masses rise up with their pitchforks and elect a Ron Paul or a Marge Fauxcahontas Warren to the oval office....

come to think of it.... Im not so sure being in Iraq is a bad thing after all
We can't leave:
With China in Iraq to the tune of 15 thousand employees...
and side deals being cut almost weekly on production and processing - we can not leave


:nod:
the Chinese cannot leverage us the way you think they can

any threat they make would be equally damaging to them as it would be to us

we have a symbiotic relationship only in as far as we allow it to be and as long as it is mutually beneficial
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You lose all credibility when you have a blog as your source. Just sayin. I get you hate the black man in the White House but dude, have some honor. He's not sitting in there watching TV all day and night. I'm not a fan of Obama, but you have to be realistic. And if he is so bad, then the Republicans have done a piss poor job of getting him out.
WOW!!!

Attack critic as racist, delusional, then blame opponent for failure to remove incompetent.

You just won the CS 2014 Al Sharpton Douchebag award.

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Obama's the worst President of the past century...Carter included.

Man up and take ownership.
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ASUG8 wrote:Anybody else see this coming? "Get out Americans....wait, just kidding....."
President Barack Obama said Thursday Iraq will need more help from the United States as it seeks to push back a violent Islamic insurgency that has captured two key cities and is vowing to press toward Bagdad.

Obama did not specify what type of assistance the U.S. would be willing to provide, but said he had not ruled out any options.

"We do have a stake in making sure that these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in either Iraq or Syria, for that matter," Obama said during an Oval Office meeting with Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... h-24097214" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeah, Bush I saw it coming at the end of the first Gulf War and left Saddam in power. Unfortunately his son and his advisors didn't learn the lesson.

The Iraq invasion is the biggest error of any President in my lifetime.
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Pwns wrote:Iraq will be okay. The strength of that country is its diversity.
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Cluck U wrote:
Pwns wrote:Iraq will be okay. The strength of that country is its diversity.
:lol: :notworthy:
What are you laughing at? Don't you know that diversity is its own reward? I think I heard that on MSNBC, so it must be true, right?
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Is it any surprise that the media is telling us the Iraqi puppet government we set up is saying "they want us back there"? I mean, really how dumb do you have to be to understand that is the entire purpose of a puppet government?

Our military wants bases in Iraq and all over the Middle East.. don't fall for propaganda saying the Iraqis are begging for us back.. that's complete hogwash.

Besides, we're in Iraq and Afghanistan, because that's where 15/19 hijackers from 9/11 came from- and they were attacking our freedoms! Oh wait.. nevermind, that was Saudi Arabia that supposedly 15/19 hijackers came from (even though many of them turned up alive after the fact)... and we never attacked, or threatened Saudi Arabia.. Could this whole thing get any more obvious? I think it's time for some girlie pics..
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:rofl:

The bears sh!t in the woods because of WMD's
But we've still got people saying we should leave Iraq...
so clearly they don't know why we're there (right?)


SO I keep telling them - we can't leave - and here's why
OF COURSE we can leave!

and then gas goes up to 4.50 per gallon (like it has been here in El Salvador since Ive been here) and then the unwashed masses rise up with their pitchforks and elect a Ron Paul or a Marge Fauxcahontas Warren to the oval office....

come to think of it.... Im not so sure being in Iraq is a bad thing after all

Wasn't it people like you saying that gas would get cheaper after we invaded Iraq? That was back when gas was less than 2 dollars a gallon in most places?

Now, it's 4.09 here in California and trending up, up, up.. so much for invading a country and getting cheaper gas - besides, doesn't this country have any sort of morality anymore? It's sickening to listen to people saying it's ok to invade nations to make our gas prices cheaper- it's even funnier when people think gas will be cheaper and then it gets more than twice as expensive than it was already- and they think us leaving will somehow make it more expensive again.

It's called supply and demand- the more countries that don't suck our dick around the world who put oil on the free market (who we don't control through companies such as Exxon, Shell etc.) via countries such as Iraq and Venezuela, the cheaper gas will be.

The more our corporations own of the global supply- the higher gas prices will be.. I'm surprised you haven't figured this out yet with the results of the Iraq campaign.
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The news in the coming weeks could be that US air power is providing cover for Iranian ground troops as we fight together to save Baghdad.

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expandspanos wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
OF COURSE we can leave!

and then gas goes up to 4.50 per gallon (like it has been here in El Salvador since Ive been here) and then the unwashed masses rise up with their pitchforks and elect a Ron Paul or a Marge Fauxcahontas Warren to the oval office....

come to think of it.... Im not so sure being in Iraq is a bad thing after all

Wasn't it people like you saying that gas would get cheaper after we invaded Iraq? That was back when gas was less than 2 dollars a gallon in most places?
no, actually, it wasnt

you may return to your booger snacks

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expandspanos wrote:
Wasn't it people like you saying that gas would get cheaper after we invaded Iraq? That was back when gas was less than 2 dollars a gallon in most places?

Now, it's 4.09 here in California and trending up, up, up.. so much for invading a country and getting cheaper gas - besides, doesn't this country have any sort of morality anymore? It's sickening to listen to people saying it's ok to invade nations to make our gas prices cheaper- it's even funnier when people think gas will be cheaper and then it gets more than twice as expensive than it was already- and they think us leaving will somehow make it more expensive again.

It's called supply and demand- the more countries that don't suck our dick around the world who put oil on the free market (who we don't control through companies such as Exxon, Shell etc.) via countries such as Iraq and Venezuela, the cheaper gas will be.

The more our corporations own of the global supply- the higher gas prices will be.. I'm surprised you haven't figured this out yet with the results of the Iraq campaign.

Actually on this very site:
There have been a few articles and studies posted on threads related to GAS PRICES at the PUMP
Studies indicate that

1) Gas prices at the pump are not tied to raw oil production and availability
(so its not entirely a supply and demand issue)
1.a) So now knowing it is not entirely a supply and demand product
(Much like Diamonds or Alcohol) two other things where supply and demand aren't huge factors

Q: What could it be..?

Price is controlled and structured around other variables in the global market
Key words: Uncertainty and Futures (Those two things right there are THE major factors)

You'll notice many articles and blurbs about Gas prices and Supply and Demand
However: Even the Oil processing and extraction companies admit this has limited effect on down pricing
Yes - it has an effect on UP PRICING however...

Ah... there's so much more - but who cares :nod:
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Chizzang wrote:
expandspanos wrote:
Wasn't it people like you saying that gas would get cheaper after we invaded Iraq? That was back when gas was less than 2 dollars a gallon in most places?

Now, it's 4.09 here in California and trending up, up, up.. so much for invading a country and getting cheaper gas - besides, doesn't this country have any sort of morality anymore? It's sickening to listen to people saying it's ok to invade nations to make our gas prices cheaper- it's even funnier when people think gas will be cheaper and then it gets more than twice as expensive than it was already- and they think us leaving will somehow make it more expensive again.

It's called supply and demand- the more countries that don't suck our dick around the world who put oil on the free market (who we don't control through companies such as Exxon, Shell etc.) via countries such as Iraq and Venezuela, the cheaper gas will be.

The more our corporations own of the global supply- the higher gas prices will be.. I'm surprised you haven't figured this out yet with the results of the Iraq campaign.

Actually on this very site:
There have been a few articles and studies posted on threads related to GAS PRICES at the PUMP
Studies indicate that

1) Gas prices at the pump are not tied to raw oil production and availability
(so its not entirely a supply and demand issue)
1.a) So now knowing it is not entirely a supply and demand product
(Much like Diamonds or Alcohol) two other things where supply and demand aren't huge factors

Q: What could it be..?

Price is controlled and structured around other variables in the global market
Key words: Uncertainty and Futures (Those two things right there are THE major factors)

You'll notice many articles and blurbs about Gas prices and Supply and Demand
However: Even the Oil processing and extraction companies admit this has limited effect on down pricing
Yes - it has an effect on UP PRICING however...

Ah... there's so much more - but who cares :nod:
keep trying to educate the nutjob chitz

thats what i like about you- youre the eternal optimist
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The eternal optimist trying to help the nocturnal extremist.

Hah word play.
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ASUG8 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: You act as if there was another option in 2008.
Now, in perfect 20/20 hindsight and knowing that McCain wouldn't have died in his first term leaving the Alaskan asshat in charge, I wonder how many '08 BO voters would vote differently today..... :coffee:
Well had McCain won we would be in about 8 wars right now...so now I wouldn't have voted for him even with a set of binoculars for hindsight.
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SDHornet wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
Now, in perfect 20/20 hindsight and knowing that McCain wouldn't have died in his first term leaving the Alaskan asshat in charge, I wonder how many '08 BO voters would vote differently today..... :coffee:
Well had McCain won we would be in about 8 wars right now...so now I wouldn't have voted for him even with a set of binoculars for hindsight.
I think we may have done some limited airstrikes in Syria and we'd probably still be in Iraq and less so in Afghanistan under McCain. I don't think he's as hawkish as all that - we've lost nearly 3x the troops in Afghanistan under this administration than the prior one. We're out of Iraq, moved the troops a couple of doors down, and are watching the vacuum we created get filled by ISIS.

Would we be worse off under McCain? It's really hard to say. :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Well had McCain won we would be in about 8 wars right now...so now I wouldn't have voted for him even with a set of binoculars for hindsight.
I think we may have done some limited airstrikes in Syria and we'd probably still be in Iraq and less so in Afghanistan under McCain. I don't think he's as hawkish as all that - we've lost nearly 3x the troops in Afghanistan under this administration than the prior one. We're out of Iraq, moved the troops a couple of doors down, and are watching the vacuum we created get filled by ISIS.

Would we be worse off under McCain? It's really hard to say. :coffee:
Who would we have struck in Syria, the Assad regime or the same ISIS group that is now marching toward Bagdhad? Perhaps we can count on the Iranians to keep them in check.

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Can we all agree now that invading Iraq is up there as one of the worst decisions made by any US President ever?
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93henfan wrote:The news in the coming weeks could be that US air power is providing cover for Iranian ground troops as we fight together to save Baghdad.

Strange days have found us.

The only strange thing is that it usually takes longer for friends to become enemies and enemies to become friends in the middle east.

ISIS is opposed by Iran, Syria, the Syrian rebels, and Al Qaeda. :lol:

There truly are no allies or enemies, there are only interests. :nod:

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kalm wrote: Who would we have struck in Syria, the Assad regime or the same ISIS group that is now marching toward Bagdhad? Perhaps we can count on the Iranians to keep them in check.

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Can we all agree now that invading Iraq is up there as one of the worst decisions made by any US President ever?
I'll just leave this here for you and Bluehen86. :coffee:
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93henfan wrote:The eternal optimist trying to help the nocturnal extremist.

Hah word play.
:lol: 93henfan deserves a medal for his strong work on this site.
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ASUG8 wrote:
kalm wrote: Who would we have struck in Syria, the Assad regime or the same ISIS group that is now marching toward Bagdhad? Perhaps we can count on the Iranians to keep them in check.

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Can we all agree now that invading Iraq is up there as one of the worst decisions made by any US President ever?
I'll just leave this here for you and Bluehen86. :coffee:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk[/youtube]
You obviously have me confused with a democrat. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: You obviously have me confused with a democrat. :coffee:
I think you may be a bit confused as well. :coffee: ;)
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ASUG8 wrote:
kalm wrote: You obviously have me confused with a democrat. :coffee:
I think you may be a bit confused as well. :coffee: ;)
It's not easy being a principled liberal these days. :nod: :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
I think we may have done some limited airstrikes in Syria and we'd probably still be in Iraq and less so in Afghanistan under McCain. I don't think he's as hawkish as all that - we've lost nearly 3x the troops in Afghanistan under this administration than the prior one. We're out of Iraq, moved the troops a couple of doors down, and are watching the vacuum we created get filled by ISIS.

Would we be worse off under McCain? It's really hard to say. :coffee:
Who would we have struck in Syria, the Assad regime or the same ISIS group that is now marching toward Bagdhad? Perhaps we can count on the Iranians to keep them in check.
And air strikes in Yemen, and boots on the ground in Libya, and (fill in shit hole ME country here).
Can we all agree now that invading Iraq is up there as one of the worst decisions made by any US President ever?
As pointed out it was a move wholeheartedly backed by the Dem rank and file (and UN for what little that is worth). Very comical to see folks spinning this as solely a Presidential decision, it's not like Bush went at Iraq alone with only his phone and pen.
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ASUG8 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Well had McCain won we would be in about 8 wars right now...so now I wouldn't have voted for him even with a set of binoculars for hindsight.
I think we may have done some limited airstrikes in Syria and we'd probably still be in Iraq and less so in Afghanistan under McCain. I don't think he's as hawkish as all that - we've lost nearly 3x the troops in Afghanistan under this administration than the prior one. We're out of Iraq, moved the troops a couple of doors down, and are watching the vacuum we created get filled by ISIS.

Would we be worse off under McCain? It's really hard to say. :coffee:
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/a6yqr ... about-iraq

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