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Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’
Mediaite ^ | April 12, 2012 | Noah Rothman

Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz appeared on MSNBC’s Hardball where fill-in host Michel Smerconish asked him his opinions of the arrest warrant issued and carried out for alleged Trayvon Martin murderer, George Zimmerman. Dershowitz called the affidavit justifying Zimmerman’s arrest “not only thin, it’s irresponsible.” He went on to criticize the decision to charge Zimmerman for second degree murder by special prosecutor Angela Cory as being politically motivated.

“You’ve seen the affidavit of probable cause. What do you make of it,” Smerconish asked. “It won’t suffice,” Dershowitz replied without hesitation.

“Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder.”
Dershowitz said that the elements that would constitute that crime are non-existent in the affidavit. “It’s not only thin, it’s irresponsible,” said Dershowitz.

Dershowitz went on to strongly criticize Cory’s decision to move forward with the case against Zimmerman. “I think what you have here is an elected public official who made a campaign speech last night for reelection when she gave her presentation and overcharged. This case will not – if the evidence is no stronger than what appears in the probable cause affidavit – this case will result in an acquittal.”

Smerconish identified the total lack of any mention of the supposed fight that occurred between Martin and Zimmerman prior to Martin being shot. He said he was disappointed that he did not see any mention of that conflict that led to Martin’s murder.

“But it’s worse than that,” said Dershowitz. “It’s irresponsible and unethical in not including material that favors the defendant.”
“This affidavit does not even make it to probable cause,” Dershowitz concluded. “everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense. Everything.”
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Bronco wrote:
Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’
Mediaite ^ | April 12, 2012 | Noah Rothman
Yep it is the end of life as we know it. We now have a UGGS wearing Conk quoting Derchowitz.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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dal4018 wrote:
89Hen wrote: She's already recanted. Their lawyer must have told her that she needs to stay firm in her conviction of Zimmerman. :ohno:
Show me footage of when she made this statement no way in hell would she say this was a accident!!!!!!
I heard the audio clip. I suppose I could find it and link it here, but you should be able to do the same without much effort. OK, it might require you to exert Herculean effort, considering that you're an SC State grad. Let me help you. You see, there's this thing called Google ........ oh, never mind.
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dal4018 wrote: Show me footage of when she made this statement no way in hell would she say this was a accident!!!!!!
I heard the audio clip. I suppose I could find it and link it here, but you should be able to do the same without much effort. OK, it might require you to exert Herculean effort, considering that you're an SC State grad. Let me help you. You see, there's this thing called Google ........ oh, never mind.
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Said it on the today show, then was recanted by a spokesman.
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dal4018 wrote:
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You must have some really credible inside information that the Fla. prosecutor's office isn't privy to. If they felt confident they could get a murder one conviction don't you think they would have done so?
Again, let the facts come out - you know what the media spoonfed you right now. There must be some extenuating circumstances to keep murder one off the table in spite of the public outcry.
YEAH ITS CALLED HIS FATHER A JUDGE PLAYING POLITICS THEY DON'T WANT TO THIS FAMILY TO HAVE TRUE JUSTICE.WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DOESN'T KNOW AS A WHOLE???????
Read my first post here on this. I know a kid is dead and Zimmerman admitted shooting him, same as you. The difference is that you've already tried and executed him because of what you "think" you know.

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dal4018 wrote:Now that they have finally caught him of course they will not divulge his true location and charging him with second degree murder.If the D.A.were actually doing her job this assassin would be charged with FIRST DEGREE MURDER!!!!!!!!
Has Klean been around since this clown popped up?

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Much ado about nothing, IMHO.

All this is just the DA giving herself the ability to point the finger at the jury when this guy is acquitted and Florida burns.
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dal4018 wrote:
89Hen wrote: She's already recanted. Their lawyer must have told her that she needs to stay firm in her conviction of Zimmerman. :ohno:
Show me footage of when she made this statement no way in hell would she say this was a accident!!!!!!
You've already proved you're a fool 100x... stop trying. :coffee:
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CitadelGrad wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Show me footage of when she made this statement no way in hell would she say this was a accident!!!!!!
I heard the audio clip. I suppose I could find it and link it here, but you should be able to do the same without much effort. OK, it might require you to exert Herculean effort, considering that you're an SC State grad. Let me help you. You see, there's this thing called Google ........ oh, never mind.
Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
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dal4018 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
I heard the audio clip. I suppose I could find it and link it here, but you should be able to do the same without much effort. OK, it might require you to exert Herculean effort, considering that you're an SC State grad. Let me help you. You see, there's this thing called Google ........ oh, never mind.
Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
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andy7171 wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
I'll speak in your language...BECAUSE HER LAWYER SAID TOO! :suspicious:
Then he should be fired!!!!
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andy7171 wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
I'll speak in your language...BECAUSE HER LAWYER SAID TOO! :suspicious:
Then he should be fired!!!!
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Yep it is the end of life as we know it. We now have a UGGS wearing Conk quoting Derchowitz.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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polsongrizz wrote:
Yep it is the end of life as we know it. We now have a UGGS wearing Conk quoting Derchowitz.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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dal4018 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
I heard the audio clip. I suppose I could find it and link it here, but you should be able to do the same without much effort. OK, it might require you to exert Herculean effort, considering that you're an SC State grad. Let me help you. You see, there's this thing called Google ........ oh, never mind.
Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
Punctuation, motherfucker.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Heard this still say no way would she say this was a accident it was pre-mediated murder he followed a unarmed 17 yr old with the intent to commit murder why would she recant and say this was an accident there were no signs of a struggle.
Punctuation, motherfucker.
It is an ongoing battle with him. Wait until he posts an entire 20 line paragraph with ZERO punctuation.
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Zimmerman has to be about the biggest pussy on the planet..how does an armed man get his azz handed to him to by a 16 year old weighing a buck and a quarter?
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eagleskins wrote:Zimmerman has to be about the biggest pussy on the planet..how does an armed man get his azz handed to him to by a 16 year old weighing a buck and a quarter?
Remember the old saying, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, but size of the fight in the dog that counts.
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eagleskins wrote:Zimmerman has to be about the biggest pussy on the planet..how does an armed man get his azz handed to him to by a 16 year old weighing a buck and a quarter?
When the guy really weighs a buck 9-0 and throws the first punch....

I'm not saying lil' skittles threw the first punch because I don't know but Zimmerman's only about 5'9" and 175-180.
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eagleskins wrote:Zimmerman has to be about the biggest pussy on the planet..how does an armed man get his azz handed to him to by a 16 year old weighing a buck and a quarter?
Ah, young Padawan! Interesting that you would bring this up.

That will be one of the reasons Zimmerman is going to walk. He was trained in concealed carry and the attendant responsibilities, which means he did mot just walk up to the kid and shoot him. Forget that he was armed. If Martin turned on him because Zim was following him, and then began to beat on him, then the gun does not come into play until Zimmerman begins to fear for his health. Second, once the fight begins, Zimmerman is also at a disadvantage because he has to protect the weapon (so that it does not become Martin's weapon) while simultaneously defending himself. Once you get hand to hand with someone, that gun belongs to both parties. Zimmerman does not even have to show that he was in fesr fir his life. He merely has to show that he was in fear of losing consciousness, which would ALSO place a reasonable person in fear for his life, because at that point the gun belongs to Trayvon.

The second worst fight I was ever involved in during 17 years of law enforcement was with a 15 year old girl half my size. She had my pistol unsnapped and it was in a school, so whipping her butt was not priority number 1 at that point.

In many cases, relative size has very little to do with the outcome of a fight.
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CID1990 wrote: The second worst fight I was ever involved in during 17 years of law enforcement was with a 15 year old girl half my size. She had my pistol unsnapped and it was in a school, so whipping her butt was not priority number 1 at that point.
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dal4018 wrote:
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You must have some really credible inside information that the Fla. prosecutor's office isn't privy to. If they felt confident they could get a murder one conviction don't you think they would have done so?
Again, let the facts come out - you know what the media spoonfed you right now. There must be some extenuating circumstances to keep murder one off the table in spite of the public outcry.
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dal4018 wrote:
89Hen wrote: She's already recanted. Their lawyer must have told her that she needs to stay firm in her conviction of Zimmerman. :ohno:
Show me footage of when she made this statement no way in hell would she say this was a accident!!!!!!
You obviously have an Internet connection. Google it yourself. We are not here to do your homework for you. This isn't SC State, you actually have to contribute a little work to keep up here.
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