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[89Hen]

Here's the problem at it's core:
Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
but you didn't know who it was that had rigged the lottery

Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
and also knew exactly who rigged it and how it was rigged

Well this ^ is Religion and Free Will and Prayer...
If I can convince you I've rigged the lottery and how it's been rigged
It's pretty easy for me to sell you a lottery ticket at that point

OK, I've read this four times and I have no idea what you're trying to say Z.

[AZGrizFan]

Here's the problem at it's core:
Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
but you didn't know who it was that had rigged the lottery

Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
and also knew exactly who rigged it and how it was rigged

Well this ^ is Religion and Free Will and Prayer...
If I can convince you I've rigged the lottery and how it's been rigged
It's pretty easy for me to sell you a lottery ticket at that point

OK, I've read this four times and I have no idea what you're trying to say Z.

Leave me the fuck out of this gibberish convo.

[kalm]

Here's the problem at it's core:
Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
but you didn't know who it was that had rigged the lottery

Would you buy a lottery ticket if you knew the lottery was rigged
and also knew exactly who rigged it and how it was rigged

Well this ^ is Religion and Free Will and Prayer...
If I can convince you I've rigged the lottery and how it's been rigged
It's pretty easy for me to sell you a lottery ticket at that point

OK, I've read this four times and I have no idea what you're trying to say Z.

I think it means a rigged lottery is not the most rational way to plan for retirement. Or something like that.

[Chizzang]

OK, I've read this four times and I have no idea what you're trying to say Z.

I think it means a rigged lottery is not the most rational way to plan for retirement. Or something like that.

I can sell you winning tickets to heaven... I have the secret spiritual information
Nobody else has the secret spiritual information

People who fall pray to tennis without a net schemes
tend to be confused about what it is



on an unrelated side note:
Stand and watch who's buying lottery tickets at the gas station for a few minutes
you'll find your audience - each one will tell you they have "special numbers"

[kalm]

I think it means a rigged lottery is not the most rational way to plan for retirement. Or something like that.

I can sell you winning tickets to heaven... I have the secret spiritual information
Nobody else has the secret spiritual information

People who fall pray to tennis without a net schemes
tend to be confused about what it is



on an unrelated side note:
Stand and watch who's buying lottery tickets at the gas station for a few minutes
you'll find your audience - each one will tell you they have "special numbers"

The last time I played tennis was about 10 years ago. I charged the net and my opponent hit a nice lob over me. I popped my calf muscle changing direction and then took the lord's name in vain.

I think I know what you mean.

[89Hen]

I think it means a rigged lottery is not the most rational way to plan for retirement. Or something like that.

I can sell you winning tickets to heaven... I have the secret spiritual information
Nobody else has the secret spiritual information

People who fall pray to tennis without a net schemes
tend to be confused about what it is



on an unrelated side note:
Stand and watch who's buying lottery tickets at the gas station for a few minutes
you'll find your audience - each one will tell you they have "special numbers"

Unrelated side note? Your whole story is pretty much unrelated.

[Chizzang]

I can sell you winning tickets to heaven... I have the secret spiritual information
Nobody else has the secret spiritual information

People who fall pray to tennis without a net schemes
tend to be confused about what it is



on an unrelated side note:
Stand and watch who's buying lottery tickets at the gas station for a few minutes
you'll find your audience - each one will tell you they have "special numbers"

Unrelated side note? Your whole story is pretty much unrelated.

Look I get it... it's scary and confusing
Cosmic Santa will bring you a present if you're a good boy



somehow that story makes more sense to you

[89Hen]

Unrelated side note? Your whole story is pretty much unrelated.

Look I get it... it's scary and confusing
Cosmic Santa will bring you a present if you're a good boy

Not scary at all. Confusing, yes. But that's because of you, not me. I get that you hate televangelists. But you don't have many of my friends pegged who go to church every week.

[Chizzang]

Look I get it... it's scary and confusing
Cosmic Santa will bring you a present if you're a good boy

Not scary at all. Confusing, yes. But that's because of you, not me. I get that you hate televangelists. But you don't have many of my friends pegged who go to church every week.

The Church of winning lottery tickets..?

[89Hen]

Not scary at all. Confusing, yes. But that's because of you, not me. I get that you hate televangelists. But you don't have many of my friends pegged who go to church every week.

The Church of winning lottery tickets..?

[UNI88]

Not scary at all. Confusing, yes. But that's because of you, not me. I get that you hate televangelists. But you don't have many of my friends pegged who go to church every week.

The Church of winning lottery tickets..?

Although there are times that I have doubts I do believe in a "Prime Mover." I don't follow an organized religion and I don't go to church. I think Osteen and his like are snake oil salesman and don't give money to any church. I feel closest to the "Prime Mover" not in a church or other building but when I'm outside enjoying nature.

How do I fit into your disdain for people who believe?

[89Hen]

The Church of winning lottery tickets..?

Although there are times that I have doubts I do believe in a "Prime Mover." I don't follow an organized religion and I don't go to church. I think Osteen and his like are snake oil salesman and don't give money to any church. I feel closest to the "Prime Mover" not in a church or other building but when I'm outside enjoying nature.

How do I fit into your disdain for people who believe?

Lumped

[UNI88]

Although there are times that I have doubts I do believe in a "Prime Mover." I don't follow an organized religion and I don't go to church. I think Osteen and his like are snake oil salesman and don't give money to any church. I feel closest to the "Prime Mover" not in a church or other building but when I'm outside enjoying nature.

How do I fit into your disdain for people who believe?

Lumped

I don't think of faith as a rational thing. I respect those who have it and those who don't. Their belief or lack of belief is personal and none of my business.

I will take occasional cracks at catholics but that's probably because my step mom was catholic and she didn't think that the ten commandments applied when dealing with non-catholics.

[Pwns]

https://reason.com/2019/10/22/orchestra ... ns-gelman/

Amazing. A famous study that's been cited countless times makes mistakes that would get you failed in high school statistics. They basically draw conclusions from the proportions in samples without doing standard practice of determining how unlikely you are to get the data when there is no sex bias.

[Chizzang]

The Church of winning lottery tickets..?

Although there are times that I have doubts I do believe in a "Prime Mover." I don't follow an organized religion and I don't go to church. I think Osteen and his like are snake oil salesman and don't give money to any church. I feel closest to the "Prime Mover" not in a church or other building but when I'm outside enjoying nature.

How do I fit into your disdain for people who believe?

I believe much the same way you do...

[Chizzang]

Lumped

I don't think of faith as a rational thing. I respect those who have it and those who don't. Their belief or lack of belief is personal and none of my business.

I will take occasional cracks at catholics but that's probably because my step mom was catholic and she didn't think that the ten commandments applied when dealing with non-catholics.

I don't think there is anything "sacred" about ones faith...
it's a belief just like any other belief - if its stupid it should be subject to the same scrutiny as any other

This idea that faith is sacred is just another way of short circuiting the discussion

[89Hen]

Lumped

I don't think of faith as a rational thing. I respect those who have it and those who don't. Their belief or lack of belief is personal and none of my business.

I will take occasional cracks at catholics but that's probably because my step mom was catholic and she didn't think that the ten commandments applied when dealing with non-catholics.

Of course it's not. Trying to apply science to religion is as stupid as the other way around.

[89Hen]

This idea that faith is sacred is just another way of short circuiting the discussion

I anyone here purporting that notion?

You were the one speaking in definites (period).

[Chizzang]

This idea that faith is sacred is just another way of short circuiting the discussion

I anyone here purporting that notion?

You were the one speaking in definites (period).

Evidence based definite is different than mysterious definite

[UNI88]

I anyone here purporting that notion?

You were the one speaking in definites (period).

Evidence based definite is different than mysterious definite

It wouldn't be faith if there was evidence and there is a difference between sacred and respect. I might not hold someone else's faith as sacred but that doesn't mean that I can't respect it.

[89Hen]

I anyone here purporting that notion?

You were the one speaking in definites (period).

Evidence based definite is different than mysterious definite

Holy shit, you're lost. Your use of (period) was based of your THEORY of an omnipotent god having a conflict with freewill. There was no evidence involved.

[Chizzang]

Evidence based definite is different than mysterious definite

Holy shit, you're lost. Your use of (period) was based of your THEORY of an omnipotent god having a conflict with freewill. There was no evidence involved.

Your reading comprehension is questionable

[Chizzang]

Evidence based definite is different than mysterious definite

It wouldn't be faith if there was evidence and there is a difference between sacred and respect. I might not hold someone else's faith as sacred but that doesn't mean that I can't respect it.

Respect and Sacred are the same word, one just provides cover for religion...
otherwise identical

[89Hen]

Holy shit, you're lost. Your use of (period) was based of your THEORY of an omnipotent god having a conflict with freewill. There was no evidence involved.

Your reading comprehension is questionable

Garbage in...

[Chizzang]

Your reading comprehension is questionable

Garbage in...

Well we can certainly agree on that...