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Again, go to the 46 second mark of the video THAT YOU POSTED! :lol:

Here reaction to this horrific molestation that you insinuate is a disappointed look that she couldn't ask her question.
I went through it clicking stop and start and I'm not seeing anything that cancels the contemporaneous audio. I don't see how you're going to get around having audio recorded right after the event of a Washington Post reporter asking her if she was OK and saying that Lewandowski almost threw her to the ground. You think a judge is going to buy the kind of argument you're making when a Washington Post reporter testifies that the guy almost threw her to the ground and he's got a recording of himself saying the same thing contemporaneous to the event? Also contemporaneous audio of Fields talking about how hard he grabbed her, etc.
The transcript you provided says there is "A few moments" between Trump's campaign manager saying "Excuse me, thank you" and then the supposedly incriminating (but eerily scripted-sounding) dialogue between the Washington Post Style section reporter and the Breitbart chick.

How long is "a few moments". Once you find that out, get back to me.

Also, why three days before her visit to police? Did it take that long to get the bruises just right?

Also also, why did the WaPo photographer who took pictures of the event deny being at the event for days until he was confronted with the fact that pictures were attributed to him? Then he changed his story to, oh yeah maybe I was there but I didn't see any assault.

This whole story is a farce. :lol:
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That genius, Bobby Jindal would have gotten away with it...
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kalm wrote:That genius, Bobby Jindal would have gotten away with it...
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This case will get dismissed with ease. Battery not included.
One never knows but my bet is it won't. She's got an eye witness who has no obvious reason to lie. She's got the contemporaneous audio of her witness saying Trump's staffer almost threw her to the ground and her complaining about how hard he grabbed her. She had bruises on her arm. She's got the surveillance video confirming that he grabbed her. And arguments about what it doesn't show are diluted by the fact that it's not continuous. The staffer may get off in the end. I don't know. But I don't think the case is going to be dismissed.

And after seeing what happened to the person I know with respect to a simple battery charge I sure as heck wouldn't be surprised if he's convicted or has to plea. If you can have a woman convicted of battery because she grabbed the hand of another woman who was shaking her finger in her face...well...it is what it is. If you just intentionally touch someone without their consent that can be battery.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
This case will get dismissed with ease. Battery not included.
One never knows but my bet is it won't. She's got an eye witness who has no obvious reason to lie. She's got the contemporaneous audio of her witness saying Trump's staffer almost threw her to the ground and her complaining about how hard he grabbed her. She had bruises on her arm. She's got the surveillance video confirming that he grabbed her. And arguments about what it doesn't show are diluted by the fact that it's not continuous. The staffer may get off. I don't know. But I don't think the case is going to be dismissed.

And after seeing what happened to the person I know with respect to a simple battery charge I sure as heck wouldn't be surprised if he's convicted or has to plea. If you can have a woman convicted of battery because she grabbed the hand of another woman who was shaking her finger in her face...well...it is what it is. If you just intentionally touch someone without their consent that can be battery.
Look that word up and get back to us.

And c'mon man, you watched the video. "Almost threw her to the ground"? :rofl:

You're better than this. Well, maybe not, but still.
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And you say, "no obvious reason to lie". You do realize that Michelle Fields is a Fox News contributor, right?

It's not like Trump has given a huge middle finger to them all year or anything. :lol:

And WaPo isn't in Hillary's pocket.
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How long is "a few moments". Once you find that out, get back to me.
About 8 seconds. It happened. She's got the witness. She's got the contemporaneous audio. She's got the surveillance video showing him grabbing her when he started off saying he never touched her.

I honestly don't know why you're in such denial about this.
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Look that word up and get back to us.

And c'mon man, you watched the video. "Almost threw her to the ground"?
Contemporaneous means "Originating, existing, or happening during the same period of time." Not sure why you asked about that.

And, again, the Washington Post reporter is on audio saying he almost threw her to the ground. The surveillance video cannot be used to dispute that because it's not continuous. The other video can't be used to dispute it because it doesn't show enough.

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Look that word up and get back to us.

And c'mon man, you watched the video. "Almost threw her to the ground"?
Contemporaneous means "Originating, existing, or happening during the same period of time." Not sure why you asked about that.

And, again, the Washington Post reporter is on audio saying he almost threw her to the ground. The surveillance video cannot be used to dispute that because it's not continuous. The other video can't be used to dispute it because it doesn't show enough.

You're in denial.
Dude, watch your own video. :lol:

Here is the whole incident in its entirety, for your convenience:

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Almost threw her to the ground, eh?
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Contemporaneous means "Originating, existing, or happening during the same period of time." Not sure why you asked about that.
Oh, so the audio is not contemporaneous then. I ask because a few seconds is long enough for her to turn to her WaPo buddy and say "hey, I'm sick of getting stiffed on questions and brushed away - let's make these people pay".

The transcript is so canned in the second part so as to not be believable. It reeks of an agenda.
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You gotta admire a leader who won't cave to the media and throw his campaign manager under the bus on such trivial garbage. :thumb:

Spineless Kasich is already on record as saying he'd have fired the guy and Cruz gave a stern lecture! :lol:

We really need a new style of leader running this formerly great nation. Make America great again! :D
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OK I won this thread. Gotta get to bed.
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93henfan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Contemporaneous means "Originating, existing, or happening during the same period of time." Not sure why you asked about that.
Oh, so the audio is not contemporaneous then. I ask because a few seconds is long enough for her to turn to her WaPo buddy and say "hey, I'm sick of getting stiffed on questions and brushed away - let's make these people pay".

The transcript is so canned in the second part so as to not be believable. It reeks of an agenda.
Except that the audio doesn't give any indication of her turning to her WaPo Buddy and saying anything. Yet you're postulating that in 8 seconds they hatched this grand scheme to frame a Trump staffer.

You're in denial dude. At some point you have to give it up.
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And if you are supporting Trump...which it looks like you are...you need to come to your senses.

The guy is a completely dishonest, emotionally immature demagogue with serious self control issues. It's an embarrassment to both the Republican Party and the Country that he has been doing as well as he is.
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While I agree he did not almost throw her to the ground, not even close, he did touch her. That counts as battery. I know it's stupid, but that is the law.
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Vidav wrote:While I agree he did not almost throw her to the ground, not even close, he did touch her. That counts as battery. I know it's stupid, but that is the law.
I question your objectivity in this case!

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JohnStOnge wrote:And if you are supporting Trump...which it looks like you are...you need to come to your senses.

The guy is a completely dishonest, emotionally immature demagogue with serious self control issues. It's an embarrassment to both the Republican Party and the Country that he has been doing as well as he is.

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JohnStOnge wrote: Here's the surveillance video:

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That was horrific, John. I almost vomited when I saw him touch her and she never even moved.

I think I saw her brush against Trump also - maybe he should be filing for battery. :coffee:
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Vidav wrote:While I agree he did not almost throw her to the ground, not even close, he did touch her. That counts as battery. I know it's stupid, but that is the law.
OK. And doesn't a prosecutor have discretion whether or not to proceed? This is like being ticketed for going 2 over.
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kalm wrote:
Vidav wrote:While I agree he did not almost throw her to the ground, not even close, he did touch her. That counts as battery. I know it's stupid, but that is the law.
OK. And doesn't a prosecutor have discretion whether or not to proceed? This is like being ticketed for going 2 over.
I'm no Trump fan, but I think "2 over" might even be a stretch in this case.

To me this reeks of someone in the RNC prodding this woman to help in the derailing of the Trump campaign prior to the convention, but that's just me speculating.

The Today show had Matt and Savannah tag teaming Trump on his call-in on how egregious it was that the guy said he didn't touch her when the tape shows he did and they simply couldn't let it go. You'd have thought the guy had kicked a puppy or punted some woman's baby down the steps with the way they were reacting. :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
OK. And doesn't a prosecutor have discretion whether or not to proceed? This is like being ticketed for going 2 over.
I'm no Trump fan, but I think "2 over" might even be a stretch in this case.

To me this reeks of someone in the RNC prodding this woman to help in the derailing of the Trump campaign prior to the convention, but that's just me speculating.

The Today show had Matt and Savannah tag teaming Trump on his call-in on how egregious it was that the guy said he didn't touch her when the tape shows he did and they simply couldn't let it go. You'd have thought the guy had kicked a puppy or punted some woman's baby down the steps with the way they were reacting. :ohno:
Matt can go to hell. I want Savannah all to myself. :nod:

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kalm wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
I'm no Trump fan, but I think "2 over" might even be a stretch in this case.

To me this reeks of someone in the RNC prodding this woman to help in the derailing of the Trump campaign prior to the convention, but that's just me speculating.

The Today show had Matt and Savannah tag teaming Trump on his call-in on how egregious it was that the guy said he didn't touch her when the tape shows he did and they simply couldn't let it go. You'd have thought the guy had kicked a puppy or punted some woman's baby down the steps with the way they were reacting. :ohno:
Matt can go to hell. I want Savannah all to myself. :nod:

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bandl wrote:
kalm wrote:
Matt can go to hell. I want Savannah all to myself. :nod:

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She's a meth head, obviously

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So she's probably easy then. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
bandl wrote: She's a meth head, obviously

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So she's probably easy then. :coffee:
No doubt.
Natalie Morales is definitely the better looking of the two though... :|
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bandl wrote:
kalm wrote:
So she's probably easy then. :coffee:
No doubt.
Natalie Morales is definitely the better looking of the two though... :|
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