The 37 Anti-Sandy Hypocrites

[AZGrizFan]

How is it fiscally responsible is it to give 9 billion to a program (the fed flood insurance program) that is already 18 billion in the hole? Where is that $$$ going to come from??

So it wasn't fiscally irresponsible to tap the same funds earlier, for their constituents?

Where does any money come from? Drop in the bucket compared to the 66 billion wasted on the F-22 pork plane

Or the $100 billion wasted on the war on poverty.

[CitadelGrad]

So it wasn't fiscally irresponsible to tap the same funds earlier, for their constituents?

Where does any money come from? Drop in the bucket compared to the 66 billion wasted on the F-22 pork plane

Or the $100 billion wasted on the war on poverty.

$100 billion? I wish it was that inexpensive. Many trillions have been spent on Great Society programs in the last 45 years.

[AZGrizFan]

Or the $100 billion wasted on the war on poverty.

$100 billion? I wish it was that inexpensive. Many trillions have been spent on Great Society programs in the last 45 years.

Well, the all have iPhones now, so I'd call it a success.

[CAA Flagship]

Why do you have a hardon for California? Why not expand the shipyard in Norfolk (clearly, can't renew Charleston's) and incorporate Stennis into JFK or Houston. Lets save some money while we're at it.

Move to blue states, of course, not the welfare red states
Stennis can go to Vandenburg. We can expand shipyards in WA, CA and VA.

Side note:
I was driving across the bay 2 days before Christmas and I saw more carriers in port than ever before.
I can't ever remember seeing more than 4 carriers in port at one time.
I am surprised there is enough room there for all of them (counting the fleet of ships that are in each carrier group too).
I would have said that I don't think there is any room to expand(spanos) the Norfolk naval base, but I didn't think there was enough room for all those carrier groups either.

Turns out that someone snapped a shot on 12/20/12 saying there were 9 total carriers (5 big boys).

[CitadelGrad]

That looks like a juicy target.

[UNI88]

As a resident independent, without doing any in-depth research I'm going to push my spineless jello mold across the line and agree with Jon on this one. As elected representatives, these people should be doing what is best for their districts and for the country. It is hypocritical to vote for disaster aid for your region and then vote against it for another region after a storm like Sandy.

And I think TTBF has a very valid point. The Tea Party minions put Boehner in a touch position by not allowing any compromise on the fiscal cliff and then got pissed when push cam to shove and a horrible solution was pushed through despite them. If they would have come to the table earlier, they could have at least gotten something for their concessions. Instead they got their azz handed to them and rather than looking in the mirror and admitting that they fvcked that one up, they're blaming Boehner.

[DSUrocks07]

That looks like a juicy target.

Or a great staging area to "provide security".

[89Hen]

As a resident independent

Whoa... I'm one too.

[UNI88]

As a resident independent

Whoa... I'm one too.

I said "As a resident independent..."

[CitadelGrad]

As a resident independent, without doing any in-depth research I'm going to push my spineless jello mold across the line and agree with Jon on this one. As elected representatives, these people should be doing what is best for their districts and for the country. It is hypocritical to vote for disaster aid for your region and then vote against it for another region after a storm like Sandy.

And I think TTBF has a very valid point. The Tea Party minions put Boehner in a touch position by not allowing any compromise on the fiscal cliff and then got pissed when push cam to shove and a horrible solution was pushed through despite them. If they would have come to the table earlier, they could have at least gotten something for their concessions. Instead they got their azz handed to them and rather than looking in the mirror and admitting that they fvcked that one up, they're blaming Boehner.

If the Dems are going to load up every relief bill with pork, they should all be voted down.

Obama was unwilling to make any concessions. What makes you think he would have given the Tea Party any concessions if they had just come to the table earlier? What makes you think they could have even come to the table earlier? Obama was off in fucking Hawaii when all of this shit started.

[UNI88]

As a resident independent, without doing any in-depth research I'm going to push my spineless jello mold across the line and agree with Jon on this one. As elected representatives, these people should be doing what is best for their districts and for the country. It is hypocritical to vote for disaster aid for your region and then vote against it for another region after a storm like Sandy.

And I think TTBF has a very valid point. The Tea Party minions put Boehner in a touch position by not allowing any compromise on the fiscal cliff and then got pissed when push cam to shove and a horrible solution was pushed through despite them. If they would have come to the table earlier, they could have at least gotten something for their concessions. Instead they got their azz handed to them and rather than looking in the mirror and admitting that they fvcked that one up, they're blaming Boehner.

If the Dems are going to load up every relief bill with pork, they should all be voted down.

Obama was unwilling to make any concessions. What makes you think he would have given the Tea Party any concessions if they had just come to the table earlier? What makes you think they could have even come to the table earlier? Obama was off in **** Hawaii when all of this **** started.

So what that Obama was in Hawaii? Being president is a stressful job and they're available 24/7 if needed. I had no problem with Dubya spending a lot of time in Crawfordsville and I have no problem with Obama taking a vacation.

Boehner tried to negotiate that taxes would go up on people making $1M+ and the tea party pulled the rug out from under him. It's pure speculation, but if they hadn't we might have ended up at $500K+ and gotten some spending reductions in return. But the game of brinkmanship failed and IMO they ended up with a worse bill than they could have gotten if they would have negotiated in good faith.

[kalm]

As a resident independent

Whoa... I'm one too.

Funny...me too.

Cgrad...if you think pork is purely a Democratic problem...you are completely clueless.

[CAA Flagship]

Whoa... I'm one too.

Funny...me too.

[CitadelGrad]

Whoa... I'm one too.

Funny...me too.

Cgrad...if you think pork is purely a Democratic problem...you are completely clueless.

In this instance, it was entirely Donk pork.

[kalm]

Funny...me too.

Cgrad...if you think pork is purely a Democratic problem...you are completely clueless.

In this instance, it was entirely Donk pork.

Well whoa then...stop the presses! This time it's serious!

[Seahawks08]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-j ... -hurricane

[Grizalltheway]

As a resident independent

Whoa... I'm one too.

About as independent as Scotland.

[AZGrizFan]

I was driving across the bay 2 days before Christmas and I saw more carriers in port than ever before.
I can't ever remember seeing more than 4 carriers in port at one time.
I am surprised there is enough room there for all of them (counting the fleet of ships that are in each carrier group too).
I would have said that I don't think there is any room to expand(spanos) the Norfolk naval base, but I didn't think there was enough room for all those carrier groups either.

Turns out that someone snapped a shot on 12/20/12 saying there were 9 total carriers (5 big boys).

Not to go all navy geek on you, but the other ones aren't "carriers", so to speak. Looks like a couple LPH's and maybe an LHA in there.

[Ibanez]

Move to blue states, of course, not the welfare red states
Stennis can go to Vandenburg. We can expand shipyards in WA, CA and VA.

Side note:
I was driving across the bay 2 days before Christmas and I saw more carriers in port than ever before.
I can't ever remember seeing more than 4 carriers in port at one time.
I am surprised there is enough room there for all of them (counting the fleet of ships that are in each carrier group too).
I would have said that I don't think there is any room to expand(spanos) the Norfolk naval base, but I didn't think there was enough room for all those carrier groups either.

Turns out that someone snapped a shot on 12/20/12 saying there were 9 total carriers (5 big boys).

Don't they do repairs there as well as ship building?

[Ibanez]

Whoa... I'm one too.

About as independent as Scotland.

Thank you.


Btw, Scotland is voting for independence in a year or two.

[CAA Flagship]

Not to go all navy geek on you, but the other ones aren't "carriers", so to speak. Looks like a couple LPH's and maybe an LHA in there.

Well done Squidley.

Here is the list:
9 Flattops at Norfolk naval base, December 20, 2012 :
From bottom to top, front to back:
Aircraft carrier DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER (CVN 69)
Aircraft carrier GEORGE H. W. BUSH (CVN 77)
Aircraft carrier ENTERPRISE (CVN 65)
Amphibious assault ship BATAAN (LHD 5)
Aircraft carrier ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CVN 72)
Aircraft carrier HARRY S TRUMAN (CVN 75)
Amphibious assault ship WASP (LHD 1)
Amphibious assault ship KEARSARGE (LHD 3)
Amphibious landing platform dock NEW YORK (LPD 21)
A T-AKE dry cargo ammunition ship
Amphibious assault ship IWO JIMA (LHD 7)
and various cruisers, destroyers, frigates and submarines of the U.S. Atlantic Fleet.

[CAA Flagship]

Don't they do repairs there as well as ship building?

Repairs are done in the Norfolk Harbor (straight back along Elizabeth River past ODU which is on the left) and in Newport News which is behind the camera. Ship building is done in Newport News.

[grizzaholic]

That looks like a juicy target.

Or a great staging area to "provide security".

Provide security for an ODU football game.

[bluehenbillk]

Chris Christie should personally invite those 37 to come to the Jersey Shore for a day of service. It'd be a good idea to come since he'll be our President in about 4 years and 2 weeks.

[mrklean]

So it wasn't fiscally irresponsible to tap the same funds earlier, for their constituents?

Where does any money come from? Drop in the bucket compared to the 66 billion wasted on the F-22 pork plane

Or the $100 billion wasted on the war on poverty.

and the $100 Billion wasted in the bullshit war in Iraq