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I love that this criminal that retard liberals are hanging their hat on is NEVER coming back to the USA again. Hes gonna die in that prison where he belongs. You may ask how do I sleep at night?

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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:23 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:43 am

the point is why would anyone be proud if DOGE is not able to make the cuts that are so important for our future.... because he's a self-serving spoiled lil bitch
You seemed confused here or are referring to something else.
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Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller drops the hammer on the Democrat party, claiming they&#39;re now the party that fights for the worst of the worst.<br><br>&quot;One party, led by President Donald Trump, that fights for Americans and a second party, I guess led by AOC, that fights for… <a href="https://t.co/JAnKKvsXJU">pic.twitter.co ... </p>&mdash; DeVory Darkins (@devorydarkins) <a href=" 18
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:46 am
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:23 am

You seemed confused here or are referring to something else.
I don't expect you to get it
That’s fantastic!
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Baaaah.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:48 am Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller drops the hammer on the Democrat party, claiming they&#39;re now the party that fights for the worst of the worst.<br><br>&quot;One party, led by President Donald Trump, that fights for Americans and a second party, I guess led by AOC, that fights for… <a href="https://t.co/JAnKKvsXJU">pic.twitter.co ... </p>&mdash; DeVory Darkins (@devorydarkins) <a href=" 18
Miller is awesome and probably the most amazing upgrade in Trumps cabin from the utter incompetence the last 4 years
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pm
Baldy wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:59 pm
Enough of the strawmen.

Please, name one legal immigrant whose been deported. Name one who has been deported who doesn't have a removal order already in place.

I'll be waiting.
There are plenty of examples that have been highlighted by the media so I should just tell you to do your own research but you would likely use that as an excuse to believe they don't exist.

I've got a couple of things going on tonight and will try to respond later.

But I'm not going to limit my examples to legal immigrants being deported. The trump regime's disregard for due process and the Constitution applies to arrests and detentions as well as to people who are seeking legal asylum or here on student/work visas.
Here are some examples. They might not be angels but are they the “worst of the worst”? Should Americans feel threatened by their presence? Should they have an opportunity to contest the charges against them?

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez – US citizen arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and held for ICE

Suguru Onda - student visa revoked because he was “identified in criminal records check.

Juan Francisco Méndez – Guatemalan immigrant arrested without a warrant. Was not the man ICE officers were looking for. Has been in the country for two years with no criminal record, is undocumented and awaiting documentation that would solidify his asylum status.
“We hear the Trump administration say that they’re prioritizing convicted criminals. I’ll be the first to say I want criminals removed from the streets of New Bedford,” Mitchell told the Light. “But it should matter to everybody if these people are not criminals and they’re being detained because their identity is mistaken, that they are still adjudicating their immigration status and are waiting for a hearing.”
Merwil Gutiérrez, 19 y/o detained and deported by ICE despite him not being the person they were looking for.
"The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building. One said, 'No, he's not the one,' like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, 'Take him anyway,'" Wilmer told Documented, "an independent, nonprofit newsroom dedicated to reporting for immigrant communities in New York City."
Mahmoud Khalil

Mohsen Mahdawi

Rumeysa Ozturk – Tufts student arrested and detained because she wrote an op-ed calling for Tufts to divest from Israel over the war in Gaza.

Kseniia Petrova, a Russian scientist working at Harvard Medical School. She screwed up by failing to declare frog embryos upon returning to Boston from France but should she face deportation to Russia, where she would likely face immediate arrest over her opposition to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine?

Doğukan Günaydin – is a DUI enough justification to revoke his visa and detain him?

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:42 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pm
There are plenty of examples that have been highlighted by the media so I should just tell you to do your own research but you would likely use that as an excuse to believe they don't exist.

I've got a couple of things going on tonight and will try to respond later.

But I'm not going to limit my examples to legal immigrants being deported. The trump regime's disregard for due process and the Constitution applies to arrests and detentions as well as to people who are seeking legal asylum or here on student/work visas.
Here are some examples. They might not be angels but are they the “worst of the worst”? Should Americans feel threatened by their presence? Should they have an opportunity to contest the charges against them?

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez – US citizen arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and held for ICE
No link for this guy. So I assume FHP arrested him for some state crime. Held for ICE to determine status. ICE determined to be USC. So what‘s the issue here?
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pm Juan Francisco Méndez – Guatemalan immigrant arrested without a warrant. Was not the man ICE officers were looking for. Has been in the country for two years with no criminal record, is undocumented and awaiting documentation that would solidify his asylum status.
Don’t need a warrant to arrest an illegal. So he‘s living as an illegal in the US for 2 years and CLAIMS is awaiting paperwork to claim asylum. Well, he‘ll get a hearing. If he crossed illegally the asylum claim is moot- he can be deported.
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pmMerwil Gutiérrez, 19 y/o detained and deported by ICE despite him not being the person they were looking for.
"The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building. One said, 'No, he's not the one,' like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, 'Take him anyway,'" Wilmer told Documented, "an independent, nonprofit newsroom dedicated to reporting for immigrant communities in New York City."
So they grabbed an illegal, but not the illegal that ICE was looking for. Every day when ICE is casting their nets for criminal illegals aliens, they are also catching ones they weren‘t looking for.
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pmDoğukan Günaydin – is a DUI enough justification to revoke his visa and detain him?
Yes, I believe so.

Still don‘t see anywhere where a USC was deported.
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Bobcat wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:41 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:48 am Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller drops the hammer on the Democrat party, claiming they&#39;re now the party that fights for the worst of the worst.<br><br>&quot;One party, led by President Donald Trump, that fights for Americans and a second party, I guess led by AOC, that fights for… <a href="https://t.co/JAnKKvsXJU">pic.twitter.co ... </p>&mdash; DeVory Darkins (@devorydarkins) <a href=" 18
Miller is awesome and probably the most amazing upgrade in Trumps cabin from the utter incompetence the last 4 years
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:12 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:42 am
Here are some examples. They might not be angels but are they the “worst of the worst”? Should Americans feel threatened by their presence? Should they have an opportunity to contest the charges against them?

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez – US citizen arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and held for ICE
No link for this guy. So I assume FHP arrested him for some state crime. Held for ICE to determine status. ICE determined to be USC. So what‘s the issue here?
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pm Juan Francisco Méndez – Guatemalan immigrant arrested without a warrant. Was not the man ICE officers were looking for. Has been in the country for two years with no criminal record, is undocumented and awaiting documentation that would solidify his asylum status.
Don’t need a warrant to arrest an illegal. So he‘s living as an illegal in the US for 2 years and CLAIMS is awaiting paperwork to claim asylum. Well, he‘ll get a hearing. If he crossed illegally the asylum claim is moot- he can be deported.
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pmMerwil Gutiérrez, 19 y/o detained and deported by ICE despite him not being the person they were looking for.
So they grabbed an illegal, but not the illegal that ICE was looking for. Every day when ICE is casting their nets for criminal illegals aliens, they are also catching ones they weren‘t looking for.
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:32 pmDoğukan Günaydin – is a DUI enough justification to revoke his visa and detain him?
Yes, I believe so.

Still don‘t see anywhere where a USC was deported.
I clearly stated that I was going to list examples of where due process might have been denied.

If the trump regime is going to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport immigrants they should have to actually prove that the immigrant is a member of Tren de Aragua (not just use hearsay) and the immigrant should have an opportunity to defend themselves.

Immigrants detained and deported under regular immigration laws have an even greater right to due process (thus why the trump regime is trying to shoehorn as many under the AEA as they possibly can).

Regarding deporting citizens, trump is already talking about it which should frighten everyone - Trump 'looking into' legality of deporting U.S. citizens to foreign prisons, White House says
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:27 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:12 am
No link for this guy. So I assume FHP arrested him for some state crime. Held for ICE to determine status. ICE determined to be USC. So what‘s the issue here?


Don’t need a warrant to arrest an illegal. So he‘s living as an illegal in the US for 2 years and CLAIMS is awaiting paperwork to claim asylum. Well, he‘ll get a hearing. If he crossed illegally the asylum claim is moot- he can be deported.


So they grabbed an illegal, but not the illegal that ICE was looking for. Every day when ICE is casting their nets for criminal illegals aliens, they are also catching ones they weren‘t looking for.


Yes, I believe so.

Still don‘t see anywhere where a USC was deported.
I clearly stated that I was going to list examples of where due process might have been denied.

If the trump regime is going to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport immigrants they should have to actually prove that the immigrant is a member of Tren de Aragua (not just use hearsay) and the immigrant should have an opportunity to defend themselves.

Immigrants detained and deported under regular immigration laws have an even greater right to due process (thus why the trump regime is trying to shoehorn as many under the AEA as they possibly can).

Regarding deporting citizens, trump is already talking about it which should frighten everyone - Trump 'looking into' legality of deporting U.S. citizens to foreign prisons, White House says
Immigrants aren‘t being deported. You keep conflating immigrants (people who came and are here legally) with illegals (people who didn‘t).
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:18 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:27 pm
I clearly stated that I was going to list examples of where due process might have been denied.

If the trump regime is going to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport immigrants they should have to actually prove that the immigrant is a member of Tren de Aragua (not just use hearsay) and the immigrant should have an opportunity to defend themselves.

Immigrants detained and deported under regular immigration laws have an even greater right to due process (thus why the trump regime is trying to shoehorn as many under the AEA as they possibly can).

Regarding deporting citizens, trump is already talking about it which should frighten everyone - Trump 'looking into' legality of deporting U.S. citizens to foreign prisons, White House says
Immigrants aren‘t being deported. You keep conflating immigrants (people who came and are here legally) with illegals (people who didn‘t).
Illegal immigrants are still immigrants.

People who have applied for asylum (I believe you must be in the US to apply) should have an opportunity to make their case before they're deported. Whether that is true or not should be decided by the courts, not trump, you or I.

People who self-identify as Christians and/or representatives of the "party of life" shouldn't be deporting immigrants, illegal or not, to countries where their health and safety is in danger.

You're trying to avoid the greater point which is that the right to due process is not limited to citizens or legal immigrants.

You also glossed over trump's wet dream of sending citizens to 3rd world prisons.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:18 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:27 pm

I clearly stated that I was going to list examples of where due process might have been denied.

If the trump regime is going to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport immigrants they should have to actually prove that the immigrant is a member of Tren de Aragua (not just use hearsay) and the immigrant should have an opportunity to defend themselves.

Immigrants detained and deported under regular immigration laws have an even greater right to due process (thus why the trump regime is trying to shoehorn as many under the AEA as they possibly can).

Regarding deporting citizens, trump is already talking about it which should frighten everyone - Trump 'looking into' legality of deporting U.S. citizens to foreign prisons, White House says
Immigrants aren‘t being deported. You keep conflating immigrants (people who came and are here legally) with illegals (people who didn‘t).
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:18 pm
Immigrants aren‘t being deported. You keep conflating immigrants (people who came and are here legally) with illegals (people who didn‘t).
Illegal immigrants are still immigrants.

People who have applied for asylum (I believe you must be in the US to apply) should have an opportunity to make their case before they're deported. Whether that is true or not should be decided by the courts, not trump, you or I.

People who self-identify as Christians and/or representatives of the "party of life" shouldn't be deporting immigrants, illegal or not, to countries where their health and safety is in danger.

You're trying to avoid the greater point which is that the right to due process is not limited to citizens or legal immigrants.

You also glossed over trump's wet dream of sending citizens to 3rd world prisons.
It’s disengenuous by your side to lump the people who have obeyed our laws, waited in line, came here legally, with those who have ignored our laws and come/remained here illegally.

And yes we have laws.
-You are suppose to request asylum in the 1st country you are eligible. For most of these folks that means NOT the US.
-If you want to claim asylum are suppose to do it at a POE, not after crossing the border illegally.
-The only right the asylum seekers has is the credible fear interview before an immigration officer (not a court/judge).
-If you‘re subject to expedited removal, you don‘t get a hearing.

Just because Biden let them in en masse doesn't mean they can‘t be removed en masse. Most Americans are for mass deportations of illegal immigrants, and this is a winning issue for Trump. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:04 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:42 pm

Illegal immigrants are still immigrants.

People who have applied for asylum (I believe you must be in the US to apply) should have an opportunity to make their case before they're deported. Whether that is true or not should be decided by the courts, not trump, you or I.

People who self-identify as Christians and/or representatives of the "party of life" shouldn't be deporting immigrants, illegal or not, to countries where their health and safety is in danger.

You're trying to avoid the greater point which is that the right to due process is not limited to citizens or legal immigrants.

You also glossed over trump's wet dream of sending citizens to 3rd world prisons.
It’s disengenuous by your side to lump the people who have obeyed our laws, waited in line, came here legally, with those who have ignored our laws and come/remained here illegally.

And yes we have laws.
-You are suppose to request asylum in the 1st country you are eligible. For most of these folks that means NOT the US.
-If you want to claim asylum are suppose to do it at a POE, not after crossing the border illegally.
-The only right the asylum seekers has is the credible fear interview before an immigration officer (not a court/judge).
-If you‘re subject to expedited removal, you don‘t get a hearing.

Just because Biden let them in en masse doesn't mean they can‘t be removed en masse. Most Americans are for mass deportations of illegal immigrants, and this is a winning issue for Trump. :nod:
Blah blah blah. :lol: They still have a right to due process.

And whose side is ‘88’s side?
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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:29 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:04 pm
It’s disengenuous by your side to lump the people who have obeyed our laws, waited in line, came here legally, with those who have ignored our laws and come/remained here illegally.

And yes we have laws.
-You are suppose to request asylum in the 1st country you are eligible. For most of these folks that means NOT the US.
-If you want to claim asylum are suppose to do it at a POE, not after crossing the border illegally.
-The only right the asylum seekers has is the credible fear interview before an immigration officer (not a court/judge).
-If you‘re subject to expedited removal, you don‘t get a hearing.

Just because Biden let them in en masse doesn't mean they can‘t be removed en masse. Most Americans are for mass deportations of illegal immigrants, and this is a winning issue for Trump. :nod:
Blah blah blah. :lol: They still have a right to due process.

And whose side is ‘88’s side?
Immigration is currently a winning issue for trump but that could very well change if he pushes it too far with jackbooted arrests, detentions, and deportments of otherwise peaceful and hardworking immigrants and students.

My side is the side that believes in freedom for all, respects the Constitution in its entirety, and believes in America! The other side believes in freedom as they define it, respects the Constitution when it's convenient and believes that what trump wants is more important than America.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:11 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:29 pm

Blah blah blah. :lol: They still have a right to due process.

And whose side is ‘88’s side?
Immigration is currently a winning issue for trump but that could very well change if he pushes it too far with jackbooted arrests, detentions, and deportments of otherwise peaceful and hardworking immigrants and students.

My side is the side that believes in freedom for all, respects the Constitution in its entirety, and believes in America! The other side believes in freedom as they define it, respects the Constitution when it's convenient and believes that what trump wants is more important than America.
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Bobcat wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:35 am Hes gonna die in that prison where he belongs.
Sounds like he's been moved.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia, wrongly deported from the United States last month, told a visiting U.S. senator that he was moved from a notorious Salvadoran prison to a detention center with better conditions — a statement made during a meeting that the American lawmaker said was staged by the Central American country’s government to make it look like a retreat.

Maryland Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen said Friday that the Salvadoran man, who was living in Maryland, told him as they met Thursday that he had shared a cell with 25 prisoners and was fearful of many inmates at the mega-prison known as CECOT before he was moved to another center in Santa Ana, El Salvador.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:11 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:29 pm

Blah blah blah. :lol: They still have a right to due process.

And whose side is ‘88’s side?
Immigration is currently a winning issue for trump but that could very well change if he pushes it too far with jackbooted arrests, detentions, and deportments of otherwise peaceful and hardworking immigrants and students.

My side is the side that believes in freedom for all, respects the Constitution in its entirety, and believes in America! The other side believes in freedom as they define it, respects the Constitution when it's convenient and believes that what trump wants is more important than America.
No immigrants are being deported, only illegals. The focus is on the felons, but collateral that gets caught in the same net doesn‘t get cut loose to stay, as they have no right to be here.

Your side on this issue is the TDS left. Trump is on the side of the Constitution and 70% of the electorate.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:34 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:11 pm

Immigration is currently a winning issue for trump but that could very well change if he pushes it too far with jackbooted arrests, detentions, and deportments of otherwise peaceful and hardworking immigrants and students.

My side is the side that believes in freedom for all, respects the Constitution in its entirety, and believes in America! The other side believes in freedom as they define it, respects the Constitution when it's convenient and believes that what trump wants is more important than America.
No immigrants are being deported, only illegals. The focus is on the felons, but collateral that gets caught in the same net doesn‘t get cut loose to stay, as they have no right to be here.

Your side on this issue is the TDS left. Trump is on the side of the Constitution and 70% of the electorate.
Again…patently false. And I have a bunch of federal judges including SCOTUS on my side.

You have Stephen Miller and Pam Bondi. :lol:
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