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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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Here's a timely article:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/p ... /21581233/
Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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Ivytalk wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Is that really a slur, though, since he's a redneck as well? It's like various ethnic groups calling each other the worst words other groups can call them, it's like Hillary calling other people liars and crooks - I mean, if you are already that thing is it a problem?

Again, on the serious side though, every day just sees more and more separation from two large groups in this country - the know-it-all, liberal, professional elite, and the racist/sexist, undereducated bluish collar folks. They're all Americans, so the vitriol they view each other with is more and more disturbing. It's not going to change once Hillary wins the election, it's just going to keep getting worse and worse as it has with every election since 2000 (actually since 1996 - a lot of this scorched earth stuff started happening during the Bill Clinton administration, and it's just carried forward in every election since). Politics just keeps finding new lows.
I think the USA will cease to exist within a generation. Either another Civil War, or -- more likely -- a financial meltdown due to a failure to deal with entitlements and debt. :twocents:
I've been thinking the same thing for several years now. Nobody stays at the top forever.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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JohnStOnge wrote:Here's a timely article:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/p ... /21581233/
Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war
Zhirinovsky? What an ultramaroon! What a nincowpoop! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
I think the USA will cease to exist within a generation. Either another Civil War, or -- more likely -- a financial meltdown due to a failure to deal with entitlements and debt. :twocents:
I've been thinking the same thing for several years now. Nobody stays at the top forever.
I think within a generation there will be a hard economic reset that could last for a generation where things will get really ugly for a long time. We will become way more balkanized than we are now. I think the US won't cease to exist, rather will cease to exist as we know it.

Time to prep..
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Here's a timely article:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/p ... /21581233/
Zhirinovsky? What an ultramaroon! What a nincowpoop! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yes. But he is also a Putin ally.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I've been thinking the same thing for several years now. Nobody stays at the top forever.
I think within a generation there will be a hard economic reset that could last for generation where things will get really ugly for a long time. We will become way more balkanized than we are now. I think the US wonmt cease to exist, rather will cease to exist as we know it.

Time to prep..
I'm all prepped and ready to go. I actually look forward to the turkey shoot. :thumb:
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Zhirinovsky? What an ultramaroon! What a nincowpoop! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yes. But he is also a Putin ally.
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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
I think within a generation there will be a hard economic reset that could last for generation where things will get really ugly for a long time. We will become way more balkanized than we are now. I think the US wonmt cease to exist, rather will cease to exist as we know it.

Time to prep..
I'm all prepped and ready to go. I actually look forward to the turkey shoot. :thumb:
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The emails, published by WikiLeaks after a hack of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s private account, also show Clinton campaign officials and Democratic leaders disparaging supporters of Sen. Bernard Sanders as “self-righteous” whiners, calling Hispanic party leaders such as Bill Richardson “needy Latinos,” labeling CNN anchor Jake Tapper “a d—k” and even lambasting longtime Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal.
The sheer number of insults in the email trove has left the Clinton campaign, along with outside organizations such as the Center for American Progress that were routinely involved in the brutal bad-mouthing, unable or unwilling to respond. Instead, they have blamed the hack on Russia and have refused to even confirm that the emails are genuine, though they also haven’t denied their authenticity.

In the exchange, Mr. Halpin mocks media mogul Rupert Murdoch for raising his children in the Catholic faith and said the most “powerful elements” in the conservative movement are all Catholic.
“It’s an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy,” Mr. Halpin said.
“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich friends wouldn’t understand if they become evangelicals,” Ms. Palmieri responded.
“Excellent point,” Mr. Halpin wrote back. “They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they’re talking about.”
The advocacy group CatholicVote.org called on the Clinton campaign to fire Ms. Palmieri.
“Hillary Clinton has already called half of her opponents’ supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’ and ‘irredeemable,’ and now it comes out that her campaign spokeswoman dismissively question[ed] the sincerity of Catholic Americans’ faith,” said Brian Burch, the group’s president. “Had Palmieri spoken this way about other groups, she [would be] dismissed. Palmieri must resign immediately or be fired.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... s-reveal-/


It just amazes me that Clinton & Co. are getting a pass with all of this. And they don't deny it (or confirm) they just blame the Russians for showing everyone how evil they are. :ohno:

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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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Ibanez wrote:
The emails, published by WikiLeaks after a hack of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s private account, also show Clinton campaign officials and Democratic leaders disparaging supporters of Sen. Bernard Sanders as “self-righteous” whiners, calling Hispanic party leaders such as Bill Richardson “needy Latinos,” labeling CNN anchor Jake Tapper “a d—k” and even lambasting longtime Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal.
The sheer number of insults in the email trove has left the Clinton campaign, along with outside organizations such as the Center for American Progress that were routinely involved in the brutal bad-mouthing, unable or unwilling to respond. Instead, they have blamed the hack on Russia and have refused to even confirm that the emails are genuine, though they also haven’t denied their authenticity.

In the exchange, Mr. Halpin mocks media mogul Rupert Murdoch for raising his children in the Catholic faith and said the most “powerful elements” in the conservative movement are all Catholic.
“It’s an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy,” Mr. Halpin said.
“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich friends wouldn’t understand if they become evangelicals,” Ms. Palmieri responded.
“Excellent point,” Mr. Halpin wrote back. “They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they’re talking about.”
The advocacy group CatholicVote.org called on the Clinton campaign to fire Ms. Palmieri.
“Hillary Clinton has already called half of her opponents’ supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’ and ‘irredeemable,’ and now it comes out that her campaign spokeswoman dismissively question[ed] the sincerity of Catholic Americans’ faith,” said Brian Burch, the group’s president. “Had Palmieri spoken this way about other groups, she [would be] dismissed. Palmieri must resign immediately or be fired.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... s-reveal-/


It just amazes me that Clinton & Co. are getting a pass with all of this. And they don't deny it (or confirm) they just blame the Russians for showing everyone how evil they are. :ohno:

How much longer until the robots enslave us?
From the Intercept this morning...

Clinton acknowledges in 2014 that Saudi Arabia was providing financial and logistic support to ISIS, while publicly praising them as important allies in the War on Terror.

:ohno:

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/hil ... -approach/
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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SDHornet wrote:
Pwns wrote:Thanks a lot, Trump voters. You managed to put up for president the one person that could easily be defeated by a very vulnerable and not well-liked democrap nominee.
Yeah he beat out some well qualifie.....oh wait, no he didn't. :lol:

conks :lol:
They should have called the Republican candidates "The Quintillion". :lol:

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houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Yeah he beat out some well qualifie.....oh wait, no he didn't. :lol:

conks :lol:
They should have called the Republican candidates "The Quintillion". :lol:

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:lol: :lol: That's a lot of zeroes.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I've been thinking the same thing for several years now. Nobody stays at the top forever.
I think within a generation there will be a hard economic reset that could last for a generation where things will get really ugly for a long time. We will become way more balkanized than we are now. I think the US won't cease to exist, rather will cease to exist as we know it.

Time to prep..
You've been choking the Pope to Newt Gingrich speeches again.....keep it up and you'll go blind... :ohno:
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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
They should have called the Republican candidates "The Quintillion". :lol:

I'll explain later if necessary...I think chizz will get it..
:lol: :lol: That's a lot of zeroes.
..fifteen of them...

Wish I'd thought of it before the primary.. :lol:
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... s-reveal-/


It just amazes me that Clinton & Co. are getting a pass with all of this. And they don't deny it (or confirm) they just blame the Russians for showing everyone how evil they are. :ohno:

How much longer until the robots enslave us?
From the Intercept this morning...

Clinton acknowledges in 2014 that Saudi Arabia was providing financial and logistic support to ISIS, while publicly praising them as important allies in the War on Terror.

:ohno:

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/hil ... -approach/
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Comparing the coverage of the wikileaks dump and the Trump tape is a perfect example of media bias and how most of the media is in the tank for Clinton.
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Ibanez wrote:
The emails, published by WikiLeaks after a hack of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s private account, also show Clinton campaign officials and Democratic leaders disparaging supporters of Sen. Bernard Sanders as “self-righteous” whiners, calling Hispanic party leaders such as Bill Richardson “needy Latinos,” labeling CNN anchor Jake Tapper “a d—k” and even lambasting longtime Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal.
The sheer number of insults in the email trove has left the Clinton campaign, along with outside organizations such as the Center for American Progress that were routinely involved in the brutal bad-mouthing, unable or unwilling to respond. Instead, they have blamed the hack on Russia and have refused to even confirm that the emails are genuine, though they also haven’t denied their authenticity.

In the exchange, Mr. Halpin mocks media mogul Rupert Murdoch for raising his children in the Catholic faith and said the most “powerful elements” in the conservative movement are all Catholic.
“It’s an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy,” Mr. Halpin said.
“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich friends wouldn’t understand if they become evangelicals,” Ms. Palmieri responded.
“Excellent point,” Mr. Halpin wrote back. “They can throw around ‘Thomistic’ thought and ‘subsidiarity’ and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they’re talking about.”
The advocacy group CatholicVote.org called on the Clinton campaign to fire Ms. Palmieri.
“Hillary Clinton has already called half of her opponents’ supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’ and ‘irredeemable,’ and now it comes out that her campaign spokeswoman dismissively question[ed] the sincerity of Catholic Americans’ faith,” said Brian Burch, the group’s president. “Had Palmieri spoken this way about other groups, she [would be] dismissed. Palmieri must resign immediately or be fired.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... s-reveal-/


It just amazes me that Clinton & Co. are getting a pass with all of this. And they don't deny it (or confirm) they just blame the Russians for showing everyone how evil they are. :ohno:

How much longer until the robots enslave us?
That doesn't bother me that much any more. I guess I've basically lowered my expectations to benefit my blood pressure.

The one thing that jumps out at me from that article (and gives me no small amount of delicious glee) is how a bunch of long snooted liberal elites are so irritated at the perception that other elites have the gall to look down on them with an air of intellectual superiority

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BDKJMU wrote:Comparing the coverage of the wikileaks dump and the Trump tape is a perfect example of media bias and how most of the media is in the tank for Clinton.
90% of media delivery in the US is controlled by six international media conglomerates. Five of those six sit well left of center.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Here's a timely article:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/p ... /21581233/
Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war
Well, he is saying the Trump could deescalate the idiotic things Hillary has done to provoke Russia. :nod:

Face it, Hillary and her folks are the aggressors. That is a fact. :nod:

If Russia does strike, it will be because of Hillary and Obomba. There is no way around that. :nod:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
From the Intercept this morning...

Clinton acknowledges in 2014 that Saudi Arabia was providing financial and logistic support to ISIS, while publicly praising them as important allies in the War on Terror.

:ohno:

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/hil ... -approach/
Well, as Hildacoont says, on every issue you have to have a public position and a private position... :coffee:
Trump lies, people get their panties in a bunch (the same people that watch Kim Kardashian shows).

Clinton lies and people die. :nod:
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Ivytalk wrote: Well, as Hildacoont says, on every issue you have to have a public position and a private position... :coffee:
Trump lies, people get their panties in a bunch (the same people that watch Kim Kardashian shows).

Clinton lies and people die. :nod:
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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Comparing the coverage of the wikileaks dump and the Trump tape is a perfect example of media bias and how most of the media is in the tank for Clinton.
90% of media delivery in the US is controlled by six international media conglomerates. Five of those six sit well left of center.
Corporations are mostly apolitical.
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Cluck U wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Here's a timely article:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/p ... /21581233/
Well, he is saying the Trump could deescalate the idiotic things Hillary has done to provoke Russia. :nod:

Face it, Hillary and her folks are the aggressors. That is a fact. :nod:

If Russia does strike, it will be because of Hillary and Obomba. There is no way around that. :nod:
You do realize we've had SHIT relations with Russia for 60 years...

and The Republican Hero Ronald Reagan escalated the shittiness to dizzying heights
So why is escalating the shittiness good some times and bad other times..?

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kalm wrote:
93henfan wrote:
90% of media delivery in the US is controlled by six international media conglomerates. Five of those six sit well left of center.
Corporations are mostly apolitical.
Facebook, Starbucks, Google, Disney.... yeah. Apolitical.
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93henfan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Corporations are mostly apolitical.
Facebook, Starbucks, Google, Disney.... yeah. Apolitical.
OK...so I could have used a better word. :mrgreen:

How about non-partisan...

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