CAA Flagship wrote:Exhibit A: Nancy Pelosi re-election.houndawg wrote:
Careful there, chicken boy, they (including you) didn't take Bernie seriously either and the DNC is still going to be carrying some heavy baggage and bad memories in 2020. The next four years are not going to be all about lets-kiss-and-makeup-because-we're-all-Democrats time for the donks.
They are holding fast to the old ways and not clearly ready to live in the present. Regardless of what you think of Pelosi, good or bad, it's flat out amazing that she continues to hold sway in the House among Democrats considering that she's been the Speaker or Minority Leader during a time of monumental shift in power from the Dems to the GOP. She's the political equivalent of a Cleveland Browns QB, yet rather than trying something new the Dems just keep sticking her in there and hoping for a better result. There is something to be said about the echo chamber of a party that, without doing the math, has such a large number of Congressmen from just three deeply blue states (CA, NY, and MA).houndawg wrote:They may have to get the message the same way they got it this time. Not my problem.CAA Flagship wrote: Exhibit A: Nancy Pelosi re-election.
Really? And what is your basis for saying that? What is your basis for saying that, for instance, some key county was flipped because of the economy rather than because of the immigration issue or the increased support for the Republican candidate among White Evangelical Christians.CAA Flagship wrote:Nope. It was the economy that flipped the key counties in the key states, and thus gave the win to Trump.
Don't tell me about exit polls. You have no idea where they were taken, and if they were factual.JohnStOnge wrote:Really? And what is your basis for saying that? What is your basis for saying that, for instance, some key county was flipped because of the economy rather than because of the immigration issue or the increased support for the Republican candidate among White Evangelical Christians.CAA Flagship wrote:Nope. It was the economy that flipped the key counties in the key states, and thus gave the win to Trump.
"Key county" doesn't even matter anyway. What matters is how people voted by State. And within States people who said the economy was the most important issue voted for Clinton. Meanwhile people who were into the illegal immigration issue and White Evangelical Christians voted overwhelmingly for Trump.
Nobody else wants the job.GannonFan wrote:They are holding fast to the old ways and not clearly ready to live in the present. Regardless of what you think of Pelosi, good or bad, it's flat out amazing that she continues to hold sway in the House among Democrats considering that she's been the Speaker or Minority Leader during a time of monumental shift in power from the Dems to the GOP. She's the political equivalent of a Cleveland Browns QB, yet rather than trying something new the Dems just keep sticking her in there and hoping for a better result. There is something to be said about the echo chamber of a party that, without doing the math, has such a large number of Congressmen from just three deeply blue states (CA, NY, and MA).houndawg wrote:
They may have to get the message the same way they got it this time. Not my problem.
Ever read the old censuses while doing some genealogy? People lie to census takers all the time, why wouldn't they lie to pollsters?JohnStOnge wrote:Nice try, but it doesn't do it. Exit polling gives you direct insight into why people voted the way they did and it shows that this was clearly not about the economy.93henfan wrote:It's always the economy, stupid.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html
For some reason there seems to be a desire to say it was about the economy. And it wasn't.
I don't know why people would want to dismiss what people actually tell them when they ask them why they voted the way they did.
It was pretty well documented too that there was a lot of Trump voter-shaming going on in the country to where Trump voters simply wouldn't mention who they were voting for due to the irrational hate coming from the left.houndawg wrote:Ever read the old censuses while doing some genealogy? People lie to census takers all the time, why wouldn't they lie to pollsters?JohnStOnge wrote:
Nice try, but it doesn't do it. Exit polling gives you direct insight into why people voted the way they did and it shows that this was clearly not about the economy.
For some reason there seems to be a desire to say it was about the economy. And it wasn't.
I don't know why people would want to dismiss what people actually tell them when they ask them why they voted the way they did.
Voter ShamWow! The hate from the Left just gets sucked up and absorbed.93henfan wrote:
It was pretty well documented too that there was a lot of Trump voter-shaming going on in the country to where Trump voters simply wouldn't mention who they were voting for due to the irrational hate coming from the left.
Yup. People lie. Immediately following the election there were many people calling into Rush, Hannity, the Liberal talk show in DC ( it's on iHeartRadio) and almost all of them that was from Pennsylvania or some other rust state said they intentionally lied to pollsters about their decision to vote for Clinton. They lied to their friends and family. Life long democrats voted for Trump. That's a scientific fact.houndawg wrote:Ever read the old censuses while doing some genealogy? People lie to census takers all the time, why wouldn't they lie to pollsters?JohnStOnge wrote:
Nice try, but it doesn't do it. Exit polling gives you direct insight into why people voted the way they did and it shows that this was clearly not about the economy.
For some reason there seems to be a desire to say it was about the economy. And it wasn't.
I don't know why people would want to dismiss what people actually tell them when they ask them why they voted the way they did.
JSO...Ibanez wrote:Yup. People lie. Immediately following the election there were many people calling into Rush, Hannity, the Liberal talk show in DC ( it's on iHeartRadio) and almost all of them that was from Pennsylvania or some other rust state said they intentionally lied to pollsters about their decision to vote for Clinton. They lied to their friends and family. Life long democrats voted for Trump. That's a scientific fact.houndawg wrote:
Ever read the old censuses while doing some genealogy? People lie to census takers all the time, why wouldn't they lie to pollsters?
Had to look up your author and found the Town Hall site. nobody else wants the gig.GannonFan wrote:They are holding fast to the old ways and not clearly ready to live in the present. Regardless of what you think of Pelosi, good or bad, it's flat out amazing that she continues to hold sway in the House among Democrats considering that she's been the Speaker or Minority Leader during a time of monumental shift in power from the Dems to the GOP. She's the political equivalent of a Cleveland Browns QB, yet rather than trying something new the Dems just keep sticking her in there and hoping for a better result. There is something to be said about the echo chamber of a party that, without doing the math, has such a large number of Congressmen from just three deeply blue states (CA, NY, and MA).houndawg wrote:
They may have to get the message the same way they got it this time. Not my problem.
They were just too embarrassed to admit it.93henfan wrote:It was pretty well documented too that there was a lot of Trump voter-shaming going on in the country to where Trump voters simply wouldn't mention who they were voting for due to the irrational hate coming from the left.houndawg wrote:
Ever read the old censuses while doing some genealogy? People lie to census takers all the time, why wouldn't they lie to pollsters?
My sister hasn't really talked to me much for the last six months or so. She'll probably get over it when we next elect somebody other than a straight, white, male.
Agree.houndawg wrote:They were just too embarrassed to admit it.93henfan wrote:
It was pretty well documented too that there was a lot of Trump voter-shaming going on in the country to where Trump voters simply wouldn't mention who they were voting for due to the irrational hate coming from the left.
My sister hasn't really talked to me much for the last six months or so. She'll probably get over it when we next elect somebody other than a straight, white, male.
I confess I held my nose and voted for Hillary. But thisCluck U wrote:"Look, I had some serious beefs with Trump during the primaries, and I committed to vote for him only because the choice was either him or Harpy O’Smarmalot, and I couldn’t listen to that shrill harridan yapping at me for four years while she turned America into Venezuela North. But I have to hand it to The Donald. He’s doing great so far, and it’s just killing the liberals. Which makes it even greater.
Trump is trolling them with competence.
Transition chaos? Oh please. The new crew is functioning remarkably well, despite the media spazzathon. And it’s always fun to get an organizational critique from the apoplectic liberal media whineatariat, whose sole organizational experience consists of gathering up the usual scruff-bearded femboys and scruff-bearded womyn and marching over to the dean’s office to demand that the campus wrestling team stop liking girls.
Jeff Sessions? Great choice – honest, smart, and he has the DOJ experience to know where the shredders are shredding. The leftists aren’t upset because he doesn’t know how to be a great AG; they are terrified because he does.
Gee, how does the lefty media react? Surprise: “RACIST!” They know it’s a damn lie, but they think people are still stupid enough to believe it. So this pick is itself another troll – this one reinforcing that the media is a pack of lying weasels. Right about now, no one would actually believe a media racism accusation unless the accused showed up in a white robe carrying a dog-eared copy of “The Collected Racial Musings of Kleagle/Democrat Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd.”'
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschl ... y-n2252852
Thanks, Ivy.
Trump winning means we'll have an absolutely fun four years ahead of us.
a thousand times this.Jeff Sessions is neither honest or smart.Cluck U wrote:"Look, I had some serious beefs with Trump during the primaries, and I committed to vote for him only because the choice was either him or Harpy O’Smarmalot, and I couldn’t listen to that shrill harridan yapping at me for four years while she turned America into Venezuela North. But I have to hand it to The Donald. He’s doing great so far, and it’s just killing the liberals. Which makes it even greater.
Trump is trolling them with competence.
Transition chaos? Oh please. The new crew is functioning remarkably well, despite the media spazzathon. And it’s always fun to get an organizational critique from the apoplectic liberal media whineatariat, whose sole organizational experience consists of gathering up the usual scruff-bearded femboys and scruff-bearded womyn and marching over to the dean’s office to demand that the campus wrestling team stop liking girls.
Jeff Sessions? Great choice – honest, smart, and he has the DOJ experience to know where the shredders are shredding. The leftists aren’t upset because he doesn’t know how to be a great AG; they are terrified because he does.
Gee, how does the lefty media react? Surprise: “RACIST!” They know it’s a damn lie, but they think people are still stupid enough to believe it. So this pick is itself another troll – this one reinforcing that the media is a pack of lying weasels. Right about now, no one would actually believe a media racism accusation unless the accused showed up in a white robe carrying a dog-eared copy of “The Collected Racial Musings of Kleagle/Democrat Senate Majority Leader Robert Byrd.”'
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschl ... y-n2252852
Thanks, Ivy.
Trump winning means we'll have an absolutely fun four years ahead of us.
That's not a "scientific fact" at all. You're talking about people calling into radio talk shows.Cluck U wrote:JSO...Ibanez wrote: Yup. People lie. Immediately following the election there were many people calling into Rush, Hannity, the Liberal talk show in DC ( it's on iHeartRadio) and almost all of them that was from Pennsylvania or some other rust state said they intentionally lied to pollsters about their decision to vote for Clinton. They lied to their friends and family. Life long democrats voted for Trump. That's a scientific fact.
