U.S. Wages DOWN 23% Since 2008! GoObama!!

[UNI88]

So Dawg, please give us your honest assessment of the Obama Presidency to date. How good of a job has he done? What has he done that in 20 years will be considered successes? What has he done that will be considered failures? How will his presidency go down in the history books?

What will be considered successes by whom?

I think it will be a middle-of-the-pack Presidency, not the success Clinton was, not the miserable failure Dubya was. The Dark Side left powers for him that he should have refused to use but didn't. He failed in that we still have the Patriot Act and still torture people at Gitmo and in general he has done little to restore the prestige and moral authority we used to have before his dipshit predecessor took office, other than not be that embarrassing buffoon, and in fact has made it worse in some ways with **** like drones assassinating civilians. I think that those who call him a sell-out and a center-right corporatist are correct.

"What will be considered successes by whom?" By you of course.

Thanks for the response Dawg but I'm still wondering why you have your head so far up Obama's a$$ that you could use his tonsils for a pacifier. Every time someone has a post that is critical of Obama you respond with either a diversion or a blame Bush post. You're like Pavlov's Dawg with a special hard-on for TMan. Holder, IRS, etc. add up to a lot of screwups and failures. Rather than trying to deflect, why don't you man up and admit that Obama really screwed the pooch on a few things? You won't be seen as a shill and your credibility will increase?

I personally put Dubya and Obama at about the same level based on where we're at now. Obama has done almost nothing to make a dent in the economic doom & gloom other than throw some bones to his union supporters. He is a sell-out and Wall St. suck up. His signature accomplishment might unravel because his party mates forgot to check the wording. It would be an ironic twist on Pelosi's we have to pass it to find out what's in it comment. It would also be a shame because it actually appears be a good thing.

[Cap'n Cat]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Since-2008

73% of American wage earners make LESS THAN $35k year.


"Hey Guys! Don't bother me now. I'll be finished golfing around four. Then I'll hand out the new list of regulations to make my job easier"


...Martha's Vineyard is so lovely in the summer. None of that Chicago violence or ghetto poverty...




American Sucka's!

Stupid conk fvck misses the point as usual, which is:


Corporate profits nevah been biggah, niggah!

Get on yo kneez, Tbag, and kowtow to the man makin' it happen! And apologize for your inexcusable lack of information which caused you to speak such bald-faced lies about our Great Helmsman.

Poor Tbag. Part of the Great Conk Unwashed….



Four more years, man!!!!!

[Cap'n Cat]

What will be considered successes by whom?

I think it will be a middle-of-the-pack Presidency, not the success Clinton was, not the miserable failure Dubya was. The Dark Side left powers for him that he should have refused to use but didn't. He failed in that we still have the Patriot Act and still torture people at Gitmo and in general he has done little to restore the prestige and moral authority we used to have before his dipshit predecessor took office, other than not be that embarrassing buffoon, and in fact has made it worse in some ways with **** like drones assassinating civilians. I think that those who call him a sell-out and a center-right corporatist are correct.

"What will be considered successes by whom?" By you of course.

Thanks for the response Dawg but I'm still wondering why you have your head so far up Obama's a$$ that you could use his tonsils for a pacifier. Every time someone has a post that is critical of Obama you respond with either a diversion or a blame Bush post. You're like Pavlov's Dawg with a special hard-on for TMan. Holder, IRS, etc. add up to a lot of screwups and failures. Rather than trying to deflect, why don't you man up and admit that Obama really screwed the pooch on a few things? You won't be seen as a shill and your credibility will increase?

I personally put Dubya and Obama at about the same level based on where we're at now. Obama has done almost nothing to make a dent in the economic doom & gloom other than throw some bones to his union supporters. He is a sell-out and Wall St. suck up. His signature accomplishment might unravel because his party mates forgot to check the wording. It would be an ironic twist on Pelosi's we have to pass it to find out what's in it comment. It would also be a shame because it actually appears be a good thing.

LMAO @ Conk trolls STILL trying to stick non-issues on The Teflon God!

[houndawg]

What will be considered successes by whom?

I think it will be a middle-of-the-pack Presidency, not the success Clinton was, not the miserable failure Dubya was. The Dark Side left powers for him that he should have refused to use but didn't. He failed in that we still have the Patriot Act and still torture people at Gitmo and in general he has done little to restore the prestige and moral authority we used to have before his dipshit predecessor took office, other than not be that embarrassing buffoon, and in fact has made it worse in some ways with **** like drones assassinating civilians. I think that those who call him a sell-out and a center-right corporatist are correct.

"What will be considered successes by whom?" By you of course.

Thanks for the response Dawg but I'm still wondering why you have your head so far up Obama's a$$ that you could use his tonsils for a pacifier. Every time someone has a post that is critical of Obama you respond with either a diversion or a blame Bush post. You're like Pavlov's Dawg with a special hard-on for TMan. Holder, IRS, etc. add up to a lot of screwups and failures. Rather than trying to deflect, why don't you man up and admit that Obama really screwed the pooch on a few things? You won't be seen as a shill and your credibility will increase?

fer cryin' out loud....seriously?

There are plenty of posts of mine here that are critical of Obama, mostly for civil rights issues. I doubt you're that interested in me......but the posts are there if you want them.

TMan: yes I give him shit, as do many others. Dude- its a political forum at a site about small-time college football and I will bet you $100 sight unseen that you will find more of my posts critical of Obama than you will find posts by Tman that are supportive of Obama. My "special hard-on" for Tman? Used to be fun watching him get all histrionic and freaking out like Elmer Fudd on meth, but he's lost a step. The old fire-breather used to go off like a Saturn V at anything that might be construed as liberal; much more fun than listening to him whimper about being "ratpacked" by lefties. Which if you think about it suggests that maybe my "special hard-on" ain't so special,(besides among the ladies, of course...).

Nor do I need to man up and admit Obama screwed the pooch, we have an entire legion here who does nothing else but search out his fvck-ups. Funny you haven't yet taken them to task yet about being shills without credibility on a small-time football site's political forum...... perhaps your carefully-crafted persona of the just-the-facts-ma'am serious guy is a bit of a mask, too?

I fart in the general direction of your approval, but credit you for Pavlov's Dawg, nice play, and just for showing that bit of creativity I will leave your little buddy and his hurt feelings to D1B in future posts. But I get to claim victory since he had to go sniffling to Uncle UNI88 about the mean ol' wibewuls picking on him.

[kalm]

What will be considered successes by whom?

I think it will be a middle-of-the-pack Presidency, not the success Clinton was, not the miserable failure Dubya was. The Dark Side left powers for him that he should have refused to use but didn't. He failed in that we still have the Patriot Act and still torture people at Gitmo and in general he has done little to restore the prestige and moral authority we used to have before his dipshit predecessor took office, other than not be that embarrassing buffoon, and in fact has made it worse in some ways with **** like drones assassinating civilians. I think that those who call him a sell-out and a center-right corporatist are correct.

"What will be considered successes by whom?" By you of course.

Thanks for the response Dawg but I'm still wondering why you have your head so far up Obama's a$$ that you could use his tonsils for a pacifier. Every time someone has a post that is critical of Obama you respond with either a diversion or a blame Bush post. You're like Pavlov's Dawg with a special hard-on for TMan. Holder, IRS, etc. add up to a lot of screwups and failures. Rather than trying to deflect, why don't you man up and admit that Obama really screwed the pooch on a few things? You won't be seen as a shill and your credibility will increase?

I personally put Dubya and Obama at about the same level based on where we're at now. Obama has done almost nothing to make a dent in the economic doom & gloom other than throw some bones to his union supporters. He is a sell-out and Wall St. suck up. His signature accomplishment might unravel because his party mates forgot to check the wording. It would be an ironic twist on Pelosi's we have to pass it to find out what's in it comment. It would also be a shame because it actually appears be a good thing.

What Obama hasn't done:
Allowed for greater transparency
Ended 4th amendment abuses via domestic spying
Prosecuted a single bankster
Addressed the moral hazard in banking
Slapped the profiteering hands of Pharma and for-profit insurance out of the cookie jar
Broken ties with despotic nations that support terrorism (e.g. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain)

[houndawg]

"What will be considered successes by whom?" By you of course.

Thanks for the response Dawg but I'm still wondering why you have your head so far up Obama's a$$ that you could use his tonsils for a pacifier. Every time someone has a post that is critical of Obama you respond with either a diversion or a blame Bush post. You're like Pavlov's Dawg with a special hard-on for TMan. Holder, IRS, etc. add up to a lot of screwups and failures. Rather than trying to deflect, why don't you man up and admit that Obama really screwed the pooch on a few things? You won't be seen as a shill and your credibility will increase?

I personally put Dubya and Obama at about the same level based on where we're at now. Obama has done almost nothing to make a dent in the economic doom & gloom other than throw some bones to his union supporters. He is a sell-out and Wall St. suck up. His signature accomplishment might unravel because his party mates forgot to check the wording. It would be an ironic twist on Pelosi's we have to pass it to find out what's in it comment. It would also be a shame because it actually appears be a good thing.

What Obama hasn't done:
Allowed for greater transparency
Ended 4th amendment abuses via domestic spying
Prosecuted a single bankster
Addressed the moral hazard in banking
Slapped the profiteering hands of Pharma and for-profit insurance out of the cookie jar
Broken ties with despotic nations that support terrorism (e.g. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain)

Very surprising given that he's a known socialist who hates big bidniz.

[kalm]

What Obama hasn't done:
Allowed for greater transparency
Ended 4th amendment abuses via domestic spying
Prosecuted a single bankster
Addressed the moral hazard in banking
Slapped the profiteering hands of Pharma and for-profit insurance out of the cookie jar
Broken ties with despotic nations that support terrorism (e.g. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain)

Very surprising given that he's a known socialist who hates big bidniz.

Yep. And despite being muslin, he sure likes to send drones after them.

[houndawg]

Very surprising given that he's a known socialist who hates big bidniz.

Yep. And despite being muslin, he sure likes to send drones after them.

He must be a Sunni.

[kalm]

Back to the thread topic…man, the 1% must be super productive!

[AZGrizFan]

Back to the thread topic…man, the 1% must be super productive!

Moral of the story? Work your ass off to get to the 1%.

[kalm]

Back to the thread topic…man, the 1% must be super productive!

Moral of the story? Work your ass off to get to the 1%.

[bluehenbillk]

Back to the thread topic…man, the 1% must be super productive!

Moral of the story? Work your ass off to get to the 1%.

Word.

But I have a question/problem with the above graph. It has the hourly wage for the top 1% coming out to just less than $60K/yr which is nowhere near correct. Please explain.

[mainejeff]

My Roth IRA has tripled since 2008.

[Ivytalk]

My Roth IRA has tripled since 2008.

All the way up to three bucks, eh, mainejeff?

[CitadelGrad]

My Roth IRA has tripled since 2008.

I'm calling bullshit. The vast majority of equities are very closely correlated to market indexes.

Unless you put all of your money into a biotech index fund, there is no fucking way the money you had in the IRA in 2008 has tripled. You're probably counting the contributions that you've put in since 2008.

Google "Beardstown Ladies Investment Club".

[mainejeff]

My Roth IRA has tripled since 2008.

I'm calling bullshit. The vast majority of equities are very closely correlated to market indexes.

Unless you put all of your money into a biotech index fund, there is no **** way the money you had in the IRA in 2008 has tripled. You're probably counting the contributions that you've put in since 2008.

Google "Beardstown Ladies Investment Club".

Apple
Netflix
Tesla
Facebook

This is a Roth Rollver IRA that I have never made contributions to.......I just watch it grow.

[mainejeff]

I take it all back......I'm +700% since 2008.

[travelinman67]

I take it all back......I'm +700% since 2008.

Good for you!



How about the other stock values?

[mainejeff]

All I know is that the stock market has done extremely well during Obama's presidency. I don't care about the politics and economics of it all........results are results! If people haven't taken advantage of that because of their politics or fears.......then shame on them.