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HI54UNI wrote:Tim Pawlenty gave his official "I'm running for Prez" speech in Des Moines yesterday. In the speech he said that ethanol subsidies need to be eliminated. He managed to get out of Des Moines alive!

I may have to pay more attention to him after having the balls to do that. :thumb:
I saw that. Now that Daniels has bowed out, I have to find some other candidate, and it might as well be Tim!

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If you don't want to put corn juice in your vehicle, which lowers your mpg (gallon of pure ethanol gets about 1/3rd less mpg than gallon pure gas):
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Tax breaks = Letting someone or something keep money it has earned
The only caveat is that sometimes a "tax credit" results in the government actually giving money to someone who doesn't pay taxes or giving more money to someone than that person paid in taxes. The Earned Income Tax credit is an example. In such a case, a tax credit can indeed be a "subsidy."

But I doubt if that's the case here. I'd be surprised if the ethanol credit results in a true subsidy to anybody.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Tax breaks = Letting someone or something keep money it has earned
The only caveat is that sometimes a "tax credit" results in the government actually giving money to someone who doesn't pay taxes or giving more money to someone than that person paid in taxes. The Earned Income Tax credit is an example. In such a case, a tax credit can indeed be a "subsidy."

But I doubt if that's the case here. I'd be surprised if the ethanol credit results in a true subsidy to anybody.
Again, I'm sure big oil "earned" it's money without the help of government. :roll:
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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The only caveat is that sometimes a "tax credit" results in the government actually giving money to someone who doesn't pay taxes or giving more money to someone than that person paid in taxes. The Earned Income Tax credit is an example. In such a case, a tax credit can indeed be a "subsidy."

But I doubt if that's the case here. I'd be surprised if the ethanol credit results in a true subsidy to anybody.
Again, I'm sure big oil "earned" it's money without the help of government. :roll:
And I'm sure "Big Govt" has a lot to do with all the oil that is extracted. :roll:
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Again, I'm sure big oil "earned" it's money without the help of government. :roll:
And I'm sure "Big Govt" has a lot to do with all the oil that is extracted. :roll:
Big Govt actually does have a lot to do with our oil prices and supply. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
And I'm sure "Big Govt" has a lot to do with all the oil that is extracted. :roll:
Big Govt actually does have a lot to do with our oil prices and supply. :coffee:
Yeah, all those govt off shore exploratory & drilling platforms & ships, onshore oil rigs, pipelines and refineries that the govt built. :roll:
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