Pagan Statism

[kalm]

Interesting read on the push back against the New Deal from business groups and the resulting unholy alliance between christianity and greed that resulted. The author makes the case that the christening of government properties, currencies, meetings, etc. entrenched the concept of the US as a "christian naton".

A Christian Nation? Since When?

The two had been described as soul mates before, but in this campaign they were wedded in pointed opposition to the “creeping socialism” of the New Deal. The federal government had never really factored into Americans’ thinking about the relationship between faith and free enterprise, mostly because it had never loomed that large over business interests. But now it cast a long and ominous shadow.

Accordingly, throughout the 1930s and ’40s, corporate leaders marketed a new ideology that combined elements of Christianity with an anti-federal libertarianism. Powerful business lobbies like the United States Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers led the way, promoting this ideology’s appeal in conferences and P.R. campaigns. Generous funding came from prominent businessmen, from household names like Harvey Firestone, Conrad Hilton, E. F. Hutton, Fred Maytag and Henry R. Luce to lesser-known leaders at U.S. Steel, General Motors and DuPont.

In a shrewd decision, these executives made clergymen their spokesmen. As Sun Oil’s J. Howard Pew noted, polls proved that ministers could mold public opinion more than any other profession. And so these businessmen worked to recruit clergy through private meetings and public appeals. Many answered the call, but three deserve special attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opini ... .html?_r=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

While the US has never been a christian nation, it has not been a christian nation by law since 1790 when congress ratified the Treaty with Tripoli. It really hasn't.

[Chizzang]

Interesting read on the push back against the New Deal from business groups and the resulting unholy alliance between christianity and greed that resulted. The author makes the case that the christening of government properties, currencies, meetings, etc. entrenched the concept of the US as a "christian naton".

A Christian Nation? Since When?

The two had been described as soul mates before, but in this campaign they were wedded in pointed opposition to the “creeping socialism” of the New Deal. The federal government had never really factored into Americans’ thinking about the relationship between faith and free enterprise, mostly because it had never loomed that large over business interests. But now it cast a long and ominous shadow.

Accordingly, throughout the 1930s and ’40s, corporate leaders marketed a new ideology that combined elements of Christianity with an anti-federal libertarianism. Powerful business lobbies like the United States Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers led the way, promoting this ideology’s appeal in conferences and P.R. campaigns. Generous funding came from prominent businessmen, from household names like Harvey Firestone, Conrad Hilton, E. F. Hutton, Fred Maytag and Henry R. Luce to lesser-known leaders at U.S. Steel, General Motors and DuPont.

In a shrewd decision, these executives made clergymen their spokesmen. As Sun Oil’s J. Howard Pew noted, polls proved that ministers could mold public opinion more than any other profession. And so these businessmen worked to recruit clergy through private meetings and public appeals. Many answered the call, but three deserve special attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opini ... .html?_r=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So you're saying that Religion can be used as a tool for greed and corruption..?

Who Knew..?

[dbackjon]

Very interesting article - which reinforces what those with a brain knew already - the fake religious/patriotism bleated by the right is a cover for the economic takeover of the US

[andy7171]

Certainly the country wasn't founded on Christianity. But I think the underpinnings of it in the Declaration of Independence is evident.
Now today's evangelical version of Christianity, no.
The Founding Fathers certainly made it clear, that is not what they intended, expressly defined in the Constitutions Bill of Rights First Amendment.

As a Christian, I certainly do not want a Christian theocracy in America. I don't want some of these hypocritical fucks running my country or telling me what to do and not do.

[Wedgebuster]

Nobody could want a Christian theocracy here, because nobody could actually define what that means given all the versions of Christianity that legally run amok in our country..

Evidence is rampant that religion and government make strange bedfellows..


Wonder why it is that those who profess their perpetual penchant for war mongering are the same who wrap themselves with flags and thump bibles??

[Baldy]

Certainly the country wasn't founded on Christianity. But I think the underpinnings of it in the Declaration of Independence is evident.
Now today's evangelical version of Christianity, no.
The Founding Fathers certainly made it clear, that is not what they intended, expressly defined in the Constitutions Bill of Rights First Amendment.

As a Christian, I certainly do not want a Christian theocracy in America. I don't want some of these hypocritical fucks running my country or telling me what to do and not do.

That's what the progtards are for...

[CID1990]

I figured I'd just pop in here to make this thread less of a bobble head circle jerk.

It reminds me of the first episode of the BBC version of Blue Planet with the herring spawn along the southern Alaskan coast. You can see the cum curds from outer fvcking space.

[houndawg]

I figured I'd just pop in here to make this thread less of a bobble head circle jerk.

It reminds me of the first episode of the BBC version of Blue Planet with the herring spawn along the southern Alaskan coast. You can see the cum curds from outer fvcking space.

The pivot man has arrived.

[houndawg]

Very interesting article - which reinforces what those with a brain knew already - the fake religious/patriotism bleated by the right is a cover for the economic takeover of the US

It would be hours of fun to listen to them squeal if the country actually did try to live by "christian values" like feeding the poor....

[kalm]

I figured I'd just pop in here to make this thread less of a bobble head circle jerk.

It reminds me of the first episode of the BBC version of Blue Planet with the herring spawn along the southern Alaskan coast. You can see the cum curds from outer fvcking space.

Cid, I want you to know that you're commentary is always welcomed. No need to apologize my friend.

[houndawg]

I figured I'd just pop in here to make this thread less of a bobble head circle jerk.

It reminds me of the first episode of the BBC version of Blue Planet with the herring spawn along the southern Alaskan coast. You can see the cum curds from outer fvcking space.

Cid, I want you to know that you're commentary is always welcomed. No need to apologize my friend.

Always helpful to have the establishment perspective.

[Ivytalk]

This reminded me of the old National Lampoon radio piece called "The Swearing-Out of Richard Nixon" from the Watergate era. It went something like this:

Billy Graham voice (syrupy North Carolina drawl): "Gawd damn you, Richard Nixon! Get the hell out of here! Richard Nixon, you sunuvabitch, for years you lied your ass off to the American people. Fuck off!"