Courtroom Prayer

[kalm]

So would it be ok for a Muslim judge to begin court with a reading from the Koran and a request for everyone in the room get to their knees and turn East? How about a pagan judge slaughtering a goat before court begins?

Texas judge, under fire for opening court proceedings with a Bible reading followed by a prayer, has scheduled a prayer breakfast next week where he claims he will address the issue.

According to the Friendly Atheist, Texas Justice of the Peace Wayne Mack was criticized for beginning a courtroom session with a 5-minute-long Bible reading by a local pastor followed by a formal prayer that left some courtroom attendees uncomfortable.

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[CitadelGrad]

So would it be ok for a Muslim judge to begin court with a reading from the Koran and a request for everyone in the room get to their knees and turn East? How about a pagan judge slaughtering a goat before court begins?

Texas judge, under fire for opening court proceedings with a Bible reading followed by a prayer, has scheduled a prayer breakfast next week where he claims he will address the issue.

According to the Friendly Atheist, Texas Justice of the Peace Wayne Mack was criticized for beginning a courtroom session with a 5-minute-long Bible reading by a local pastor followed by a formal prayer that left some courtroom attendees uncomfortable.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/tx-j ... breakfast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Muslims shouldn't be allowed to hold public office.

The Pagan would be guilty of animal cruelty and prosecuted.

[Chizzang]

So would it be ok for a Muslim judge to begin court with a reading from the Koran and a request for everyone in the room get to their knees and turn East? How about a pagan judge slaughtering a goat before court begins?

Texas judge, under fire for opening court proceedings with a Bible reading followed by a prayer, has scheduled a prayer breakfast next week where he claims he will address the issue.

According to the Friendly Atheist, Texas Justice of the Peace Wayne Mack was criticized for beginning a courtroom session with a 5-minute-long Bible reading by a local pastor followed by a formal prayer that left some courtroom attendees uncomfortable.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/tx-j ... breakfast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hmmm... is that a trick question..?

[CAA Flagship]

Sacrificing PETA reps would be the only acceptable ritual.

The lack of any prayer would be an Atheist bias, which would be unconstitutional.

[kalm]

Sacrificing PETA reps would be the only acceptable ritual.

The lack of any prayer would be an Atheist bias, which would be unconstitutional.

[Chizzang]

Why isn't the MSM all over this travesty and attack on the Constitution..!!!!

[dbackjon]

Why isn't the MSM all over this travesty and attack on the Constitution..!!!!

Because Benghazi!! Ebola!!!

[Chizzang]

Why isn't the MSM all over this travesty and attack on the Constitution..!!!!

Because Benghazi!! Ebola!!!

According to our friends on here ^ this type of thing is all the Main Stream Media talks about
Why are't the MSM bashing this guy on every channel
Where is the Christian Prosecution we're told about on here by the MSM..?



crickets This poor judge is only defying the constitution in his courtroom - no big deal

[Gil Dobie]

As I've stated before, the Native American God of Peace Statue resides in the lobby of the St Paul City Hall and Ramsey County Courthouse. It's not hidden in a corner, as it weighs 60 tons and is 36 feet tall and rotates. I would have no problem with any judge reading from any book in court, Bible, Koran, etc, as long as he isn't telling me what I have to believe along spiritual lines. We are a country of freedom of religion, not a country trying to suppress religion.

[dbackjon]

Because Benghazi!! Ebola!!!

According to our friends on here ^ this type of thing is all the Main Stream Media talks about
Why are't the MSM bashing this guy on every channel
Where is the Christian Prosecution we're told about on here by the MSM..?



crickets This poor judge is only defying the constitution in his courtroom - no big deal

Oh I know. Like kalm said, if a Muslim judge did a reading from the Koran, all hell would break loose.

If he wants to do a reading, try the bill of rights - ALL of them.

[Gil Dobie]

So would it be ok for a Muslim judge to begin court with a reading from the Koran and a request for everyone in the room get to their knees and turn East? How about a pagan judge slaughtering a goat before court begins?

Wouldn't telling a Muslim Judge to not read from the Koran, impede his right to exercise his religion.

[Skjellyfetti]

What the fuck is the "Native American God of Peace"?

There were thousands of tribes and hundreds of beliefs. Is there a single all encompassing God of Peace I'm unaware of?

[dbackjon]

So would it be ok for a Muslim judge to begin court with a reading from the Koran and a request for everyone in the room get to their knees and turn East? How about a pagan judge slaughtering a goat before court begins?

Wouldn't telling a Muslim Judge to not read from the Koran, impede his right to exercise his religion.

No.


People are mistaken that "Freedom to Exercise Religion" means they can impose their religion on others, at anytime they want.

He can worship off the job. No one is restricting that.

Should a Muslim police officer be able to ticket a woman for driving (against his religion?) Should a Jewish officer be able to shut down a restaurant that specializes in pork? Should a Christian Judge be able to rule on cases based on his interpretation of Bible, even when that conflicts with the Law?

[OL FU]

I had goat the other day for lunch.

It was pretty good.

[Chizzang]

I had goat the other day for lunch.

It was pretty good.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiIfAxCb0g[/youtube]

[OL FU]

I had goat the other day for lunch.

It was pretty good.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiIfAxCb0g[/youtube]

Now that I think about it. It was a Mexican place. Shit, I probably have goat there no matter what meat I order

[Gil Dobie]

Wouldn't telling a Muslim Judge to not read from the Koran, impede his right to exercise his religion.

No.


People are mistaken that "Freedom to Exercise Religion" means they can impose their religion on others, at anytime they want.

He can worship off the job. No one is restricting that.

Should a Muslim police officer be able to ticket a woman for driving (against his religion?) Should a Jewish officer be able to shut down a restaurant that specializes in pork? Should a Christian Judge be able to rule on cases based on his interpretation of Bible, even when that conflicts with the Law?

He's reading from a book, not worshiping from what I read. I didn't see where he was ruling based on the Bible or prayer. That is crossing the line IMO.

[GannonFan]

Wouldn't telling a Muslim Judge to not read from the Koran, impede his right to exercise his religion.

No.


People are mistaken that "Freedom to Exercise Religion" means they can impose their religion on others, at anytime they want.

He can worship off the job. No one is restricting that.

Should a Muslim police officer be able to ticket a woman for driving (against his religion?) Should a Jewish officer be able to shut down a restaurant that specializes in pork? Should a Christian Judge be able to rule on cases based on his interpretation of Bible, even when that conflicts with the Law?

Well, those aren't really very good examples. In each of your examples, you have someone in a position of authority judging and ruling on someone or someone else's actions based on their own religious views and contrary to that actual law in place. A judge reading from any particular holy tome (whether it be a bible, a torah, a koran, or the book of mormon) prior to a court session does not mean they are going to or actually are ruling based on their religious views, especially contrary to the law of the land.

[GannonFan]

No.


People are mistaken that "Freedom to Exercise Religion" means they can impose their religion on others, at anytime they want.

He can worship off the job. No one is restricting that.

Should a Muslim police officer be able to ticket a woman for driving (against his religion?) Should a Jewish officer be able to shut down a restaurant that specializes in pork? Should a Christian Judge be able to rule on cases based on his interpretation of Bible, even when that conflicts with the Law?

He's reading from a book, not worshiping from what I read. I didn't see where he was ruling based on the Bible or prayer. That is crossing the line IMO.

Amen to this post!

[Gil Dobie]

I had goat the other day for lunch.

It was pretty good.

I had goat cheese on my walleye taco

[dbackjon]

No.


People are mistaken that "Freedom to Exercise Religion" means they can impose their religion on others, at anytime they want.

He can worship off the job. No one is restricting that.

Should a Muslim police officer be able to ticket a woman for driving (against his religion?) Should a Jewish officer be able to shut down a restaurant that specializes in pork? Should a Christian Judge be able to rule on cases based on his interpretation of Bible, even when that conflicts with the Law?

He's reading from a book, not worshiping from what I read. I didn't see where he was ruling based on the Bible or prayer. That is crossing the line IMO.

So you really think that promotes preaching from the bench (before the trial) gives an air of impartiality? Sorry, but it creates a hostile atmosphere for anyone that does not subscribe to that view, and crosses a line.

[Gil Dobie]

So you really think that promotes preaching from the bench (before the trial) gives an air of impartiality? Sorry, but it creates a hostile atmosphere for anyone that does not subscribe to that view, and crosses a line.

To me, he's not preaching, he's reading from a book. If it's a Koran or any other book, he's reading, and I'm on trial, I'm not concerned. You could probably find something hostile and abusive to someone, in any book in the Library of Congress.

[kalm]

So you really think that promotes preaching from the bench (before the trial) gives an air of impartiality? Sorry, but it creates a hostile atmosphere for anyone that does not subscribe to that view, and crosses a line.

To me, he's not preaching, he's reading from a book. If it's a Koran or any other book, he's reading, and I'm on trial, I'm not concerned. You could probably find something hostile and abusive to someone, in any book in the Library of Congress.

What was his purpose in publicly reading the bible and asking folks to bow their heads in prayer?

[Chizzang]

So you really think that promotes preaching from the bench (before the trial) gives an air of impartiality? Sorry, but it creates a hostile atmosphere for anyone that does not subscribe to that view, and crosses a line.

To me, he's not preaching, he's reading from a book. If it's a Koran or any other book, he's reading, and I'm on trial, I'm not concerned. You could probably find something hostile and abusive to someone, in any book in the Library of Congress.

This is ^ Hi-Larious

[Gil Dobie]

To me, he's not preaching, he's reading from a book. If it's a Koran or any other book, he's reading, and I'm on trial, I'm not concerned. You could probably find something hostile and abusive to someone, in any book in the Library of Congress.

What was his purpose in publicly reading the bible and asking folks to bow their heads in prayer?

Was it required that they bow their heads in prayer or did he ask them to participate if they chose to do so?