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Imagine an 11 game schedule where every opponent is ranked, that includes 7 top 5 teams, 9 power conference champions, 2 national champions, 2 national runners up, and 9 away games.

That's what the big sky at large bids have faced since 2004, and they are 4-7.

Respectable?
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how many of those 4 wins are owned by Montana? or have they been the auto-bid all those years?
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Every at-large team in the playoffs will face a ranked opponent.
Heck, almost every playoff participant is ranked (the only exception being the occasional auto-qualifier from a weak league, and those go to power conference auto-qualifiers).
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none of those are Montana wins, and you're right about the inclusion of ranked teams, 7 in the top 5 is enough.
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kalm wrote:none of those are Montana wins
There should be some. Montana was an at-large last season.
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kalm wrote:Imagine an 11 game schedule where every opponent is ranked, that includes 7 top 5 teams, 9 power conference champions, 2 national champions, 2 national runners up, and 9 away games.

That's what the big sky at large bids have faced since 2004, and they are 4-7.

Respectable?
Yeah, it is respectable. 4-7 isn't great, but when you figure 9 of the games were on the road, most likely against another power conference school with an equal or better W - L record, I'd say 4-7 is respectable.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
kalm wrote:none of those are Montana wins
There should be some. Montana was an at-large last season.
Technically you're right which makes the #'s look even better.
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Since 2004 these are the records of the big 4 conferences in the playoffs when not facing a conference mate.

Big Sky 12-11 .522
CAA 28-13 .683
MVFC 13-11 .542
SoCon 17-8 .680
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UNHWildCats wrote:Since 2004 these are the records of the big 4 conferences in the playoffs when not facing a conference mate.

Big Sky 12-11 .522
CAA 28-13 .683
MVFC 13-11 .542
SoCon 17-8 .680
So now were 6-7 without any games against the patriot, ovc, or meac and frequently against a mvc or slc champ and/or a seed.
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DJH wrote:how many of those 4 wins are owned by Montana? or have they been the auto-bid all those years?
Last year, Weber beat #3 Cal Poly in the first round and on the road.
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UNHWildCats wrote:Since 2004 these are the records of the big 4 conferences in the playoffs when not facing a conference mate.

Big Sky 12-11 .522
CAA 28-13 .683
MVFC 13-11 .542
SoCon 17-8 .680
A lot more similar than one would imagine from all the extreme homer posts. It makes me want to congratulate all four conferences! :thumb:
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
kalm wrote:none of those are Montana wins
There should be some. Montana was an at-large last season.
Even though Weber won the auto-bid by virtue of the head-to-head victory over Montana, Montana was a seed due to WSU's loss to EWU in the last regular season game.
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