NDSU and the WAC

[BigSkyBears]

Yeah, but outside of the state of ND and non-fcs fans, no one knows who you guys are. What's the appeal??

I live in the Twin Cities and they know us in Minnesota, and neighboring Wisconsin after beating the Gophers in Football and Badgers in Basketball. They know Denver and CC in Minneapolis via hockey, but not many know Northern Colorado here.

Yeah, but that's in the general geographic area. I know no one knows UNC and never claimed that.

[BigSkyBears]

Yeah, but outside of the state of ND and non-fcs fans, no one knows who you guys are. What's the appeal??

When did Sac State, PSU, and Texas State become household names? NDSU is well supported, has a solid academic reputation and is ready to go now. I'm sure more than a few WAC presidents know who we are.

I am not saying NDSU is even close to getting talked about by the WAC, but your statement doesn't make sense when you consider the alternatives. I'd argue the only school with the kind of appeal you are talking about is UC Davis because of their stellar academic reputation.

Just because those schools are interested in the WAC doesn't mean the WAC is interested in them. I know Sac St is already a member is some sports, but I still don't think they'll get a chance to move up.

[Herky]

The way things are going now the conference most likely to not exist is the B12 minus 6 then another 2 and would be left with 4.

The question is A-who wants to move up from FCS? Texas St. is the only 100% yes now. B-Who can afford it? C-Who has the best facilities for the WAC?

Montana needs to add 2 sports and voted down a fee hike
Cal Poly needs a better basketball arena and needs to add a 4,000 seats to the football stadium. Can they afford the move?
UC Davis needs 5,000 more seats for football. Can they afford the move?
Sacramento St. needs a better basketball arena. Can they afford the move?
Portland St. needs a better basketball arena or play all their games at the Rose Garden. Can they afford the move?

Wanless just came out and said that a move to the WAC is definitely something he and the Pres are considering, they said the additional $5 million a year for schollies etc. were not a problem as athletic fees were raised last year. Tha AD is saying that if the opportunitiy presents itself, they're going for it.

As for the arena, there are options available.

Additional revenue will also be earned through the rental of Hornet Stadium to the UFL team the Sacramento Mountain Lions. A contract for them to use the facilities is in place and they are calling Hornet Stadium their home now.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The way things are going now the conference most likely to not exist is the B12 minus 6 then another 2 and would be left with 4.

The question is A-who wants to move up from FCS? Texas St. is the only 100% yes now. B-Who can afford it? C-Who has the best facilities for the WAC?

Montana needs to add 2 sports and voted down a fee hike
Cal Poly needs a better basketball arena and needs to add a 4,000 seats to the football stadium. Can they afford the move?
UC Davis needs 5,000 more seats for football. Can they afford the move?
Sacramento St. needs a better basketball arena. Can they afford the move?
Portland St. needs a better basketball arena or play all their games at the Rose Garden. Can they afford the move?

Wanless just came out and said that a move to the WAC is definitely something he and the Pres are considering, they said the additional $5 million a year for schollies etc. were not a problem as athletic fees were raised last year. Tha AD is saying that if the opportunitiy presents itself, they're going for it.

As for the arena, there are options available.

Additional revenue will also be earned through the rental of Hornet Stadium to the UFL team the Sacramento Mountain Lions.

I would think that a lot of revenue could also be culled from that woman's team that SH is always talking bout too. They're apparently quite a show.

[Herky]

Wanless just came out and said that a move to the WAC is definitely something he and the Pres are considering, they said the additional $5 million a year for schollies etc. were not a problem as athletic fees were raised last year. Tha AD is saying that if the opportunitiy presents itself, they're going for it.

As for the arena, there are options available.

Additional revenue will also be earned through the rental of Hornet Stadium to the UFL team the Sacramento Mountain Lions.

I would think that a lot of revenue could also be culled from that woman's team that SH is always talking bout too. They're apparently quite a show.

Sshhhh, any mention of the Sirens and SuperHornet comes running to chime in.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I would think that a lot of revenue could also be culled from that woman's team that SH is always talking bout too. They're apparently quite a show.

Sshhhh, any mention of the Sirens and SuperHornet comes running to chime in.

He's got two other threads on em' on here already that I'm trying to keep him busy on to keep that shit off of these ones but I couldn't resist the revenue comment.

[Fresno St. Alum]

The way things are going now the conference most likely to not exist is the B12 minus 6 then another 2 and would be left with 4.

The question is A-who wants to move up from FCS? Texas St. is the only 100% yes now. B-Who can afford it? C-Who has the best facilities for the WAC?

Montana needs to add 2 sports and voted down a fee hike
Cal Poly needs a better basketball arena and needs to add a 4,000 seats to the football stadium. Can they afford the move?
UC Davis needs 5,000 more seats for football. Can they afford the move?
Sacramento St. needs a better basketball arena. Can they afford the move?
Portland St. needs a better basketball arena or play all their games at the Rose Garden. Can they afford the move?

Wanless just came out and said that a move to the WAC is definitely something he and the Pres are considering, they said the additional $5 million a year for schollies etc. were not a problem as athletic fees were raised last year. Tha AD is saying that if the opportunitiy presents itself, they're going for it.

As for the arena, there are options available.

Additional revenue will also be earned through the rental of Hornet Stadium to the UFL team the Sacramento Mountain Lions. A contract for them to use the facilities is in place and they are calling Hornet Stadium their home now.

So it seems Texas St. and Sac St. are willing to join the WAC.

[Green Cookie Monster]

I would think that a lot of revenue could also be culled from that woman's team that SH is always talking bout too. They're apparently quite a show.

Sshhhh, any mention of the Sirens and SuperHornet comes running to chime in.

Yes, please don't provoke SH and his Sirens.

The students voted and passed to tax themselves for a new 6-8K seat events center that is part of the Alex Spanos Sports Complex. The 'Well' is a 150K sqft recreation facility set to open Sept.2, once that is complete work can be started on securing the rest of the funds for the event center. Labor and construction material haven't been this low in decades, so that is advantageous.

Since I am an alum of both Sac State and TXST, I am in the envious position to win either way if something happens. I just can't see TXST in the league if La. Tech leaves, travel for the non-revenue sports would be killer. With the state of the overall economy, I'd think prudent travel expense would be a top qualifier.

When did TXST or UTSA become household names? A few years ago we were proudly called SWT and having lived in San Marcos for four years never even thought or heard about UTSA.

As for North Dakota State, they may as well be located on Mars.

[SDHornet]

The way things are going now the conference most likely to not exist is the B12 minus 6 then another 2 and would be left with 4.

The question is A-who wants to move up from FCS? Texas St. is the only 100% yes now. B-Who can afford it? C-Who has the best facilities for the WAC?

Montana needs to add 2 sports and voted down a fee hike
Cal Poly needs a better basketball arena and needs to add a 4,000 seats to the football stadium. Can they afford the move?
UC Davis needs 5,000 more seats for football. Can they afford the move?
Sacramento St. needs a better basketball arena. Can they afford the move?
Portland St. needs a better basketball arena or play all their games at the Rose Garden. Can they afford the move?

Sac State can "rent" Arco Arena (where the Kings play) to sell the notion of a Sac State move to the WAC. Ultimately, Sac State needs to build its 6-8k events center (which is already on the books, it just needs to find funding). Seeing as President Gonzales already forcibly raised student fees for athletics about a year ago, I see him having no qualms about doing it again to fund the FBS move.

[kemajic]

Just because those schools are interested in the WAC doesn't mean the WAC is interested in them. I know Sac St is already a member is some sports, but I still don't think they'll get a chance to move up.

Have to agree. I doubt the WAC will need to stoop to teams that win one of three in FCS and don't draw. The WAC will have better options. Sure, the CA boys want their bus league, but they don't have all the votes.

[SDHornet]

Have to agree. I doubt the WAC will need to stoop to teams that win one of three in FCS and don't draw. The WAC will have better options. Sure, the CA boys want their bus league, but they don't have all the votes.

I think it will all depend on how badly the WAC gets raided. That in turn will determine the level of desperation of the WAC to stay alive...which could potentially open up more invites to schools who aren't ready for a move.

[Herky]

Have to agree. I doubt the WAC will need to stoop to teams that win one of three in FCS and don't draw. The WAC will have better options. Sure, the CA boys want their bus league, but they don't have all the votes.

A quality football program does not necessarily equal a quality athletics department, its taken as a whole, sorry.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Boise St. is joining the Mountain West finally. Western FCS is on the clock for the WAC

[Green Cookie Monster]

[Fresno St. Alum]

Is joining the Big West? I kid I kid

[mainejeff]

The WAC is not going to survive.

Fresno State is bound for the Mountain West.

Louisiana Tech???.......

Who does that leave?

[AZGrizFan]

The way things are going now the conference most likely to not exist is the B12 minus 6 then another 2 and would be left with 4.

The question is A-who wants to move up from FCS? Texas St. is the only 100% yes now. B-Who can afford it? C-Who has the best facilities for the WAC?

Montana needs to add 2 sports and voted down a fee hike
Cal Poly needs a better basketball arena and needs to add a 4,000 seats to the football stadium. Can they afford the move?
UC Davis needs 5,000 more seats for football. Can they afford the move?
Sacramento St. needs a better basketball arena. Can they afford the move?
Portland St. needs a better basketball arena or play all their games at the Rose Garden. Can they afford the move?

The better question is can they afford not to? This opportunity may not come by again for a long, long time and life in the FCS is tough on the west coast and getting tougher every year.

THIS.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Best long term solution is for Cal Poly, UC Davis to join the WAC because GWC only has 5 members(No AQ) and S.Utah is probably next in line to go to the Sky if Sac St. or Montana or Portland St. leaves. N.Dakota and S.Dakota may get MVFC invites and the GWC is not allowed to bring in new mebers from D-II because they don't qualify as a D-I conference.

Sac St. and Montana have homes so they don't need to move. Texas St., Lamar, UTSA all have a hard on for FBS.

[AZGrizFan]

Best long term solution is for Cal Poly, UC Davis to join the WAC because GWC only has 5 members(No AQ) and S.Utah is probably next in line to go to the Sky if Sac St. or Montana or Portland St. leaves. N.Dakota and S.Dakota may get MVFC invites and the GWC is not allowed to bring in new mebers from D-II because they don't qualify as a D-I conference.

Sac St. and Montana have homes so they don't need to move. Texas St., Lamar, UTSA all have a hard on for FBS.

Given their location, their size and the success of some of their other sports, I think Cal Poly is a no-brainer.

[mainejeff]

Best long term solution is for Cal Poly, UC Davis to join the WAC because GWC only has 5 members(No AQ) and S.Utah is probably next in line to go to the Sky if Sac St. or Montana or Portland St. leaves. N.Dakota and S.Dakota may get MVFC invites and the GWC is not allowed to bring in new mebers from D-II because they don't qualify as a D-I conference.

Sac St. and Montana have homes so they don't need to move. Texas St., Lamar, UTSA all have a hard on for FBS.

What WAC?

The one that will include Idaho, New Mexico State, and Utah State when all is said and done?

[AZGrizFan]

Best long term solution is for Cal Poly, UC Davis to join the WAC because GWC only has 5 members(No AQ) and S.Utah is probably next in line to go to the Sky if Sac St. or Montana or Portland St. leaves. N.Dakota and S.Dakota may get MVFC invites and the GWC is not allowed to bring in new mebers from D-II because they don't qualify as a D-I conference.

Sac St. and Montana have homes so they don't need to move. Texas St., Lamar, UTSA all have a hard on for FBS.

What WAC?

The one that will include Idaho, New Mexico State, and Utah State when all is said and done?

The only team leaving is Boise State. And even Boise State paid their dues for several years in a lower level FBS division before getting this opportunity.

[mainejeff]

What WAC?

The one that will include Idaho, New Mexico State, and Utah State when all is said and done?

The only team leaving is Boise State. And even Boise State paid their dues for several years in a lower level FBS division before getting this opportunity.

Obviously, you aren't following what is going on.

[JBB]

Its not all about football, but NDSU is one of the best FCS teams in the land. Its about other things too. Take a look at this ranking for the Directors Cup. NDSU is the highest ranking FCS program:

1. Stanford
2. North Carolina
3. Ohio State
4. Florida State
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma State
7. Maryland
8. Cal
9. Duke
10. Virginia
11. Oklahoma
12. Southern Cal
13. Washington
14. Georgetown
14. Notre Dame
16. Michigan
16. Syracuse
18. Oregon
18. Villanova
20. Wisconsin
21. Louisville
22. Indiana
23. New Mexico
24. UCLA
25. Princeton
26. Michigan State
27. Auburn
27. Florida
29. Boston College
30. Minnesota
31. South Carolina
32. Texas
33. UConn
34. Tulsa
35. Central Florida
36. William and Mary
37. Providence
38. West Virginia
39. Va Tech
40. Illinois
41. Texas Tech
42. Creighton
43. Arkansas
44. Alabama
45. Missouri
45. North Dakota State
45. South Florida
48. Nebraska
49. Colorado
50. Delaware

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[youngterrier]

Its not all about football, but NDSU is one of the best FCS teams in the land. Its about other things too. Take a look at this ranking for the Directors Cup. NDSU is the highest ranking FCS program:

1. Stanford
2. North Carolina
3. Ohio State
4. Florida State
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma State
7. Maryland
8. Cal
9. Duke
10. Virginia
11. Oklahoma
12. Southern Cal
13. Washington
14. Georgetown
14. Notre Dame
16. Michigan
16. Syracuse
18. Oregon
18. Villanova
20. Wisconsin
21. Louisville
22. Indiana
23. New Mexico
24. UCLA
25. Princeton
26. Michigan State
27. Auburn
27. Florida
29. Boston College
30. Minnesota
31. South Carolina
32. Texas
33. UConn
34. Tulsa
35. Central Florida
36. William and Mary
37. Providence
38. West Virginia
39. Va Tech
40. Illinois
41. Texas Tech
42. Creighton
43. Arkansas
44. Alabama
45. Missouri
45. North Dakota State
45. South Florida
48. Nebraska
49. Colorado
50. Delaware

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[DJH]

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