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CID1990 wrote:
LOL

The network that gave Trump millions in free advertising when everybody thought he had no chance in 2016 now doesn’t want his campaign money

I don’t know why but this just makes me giggle

Wouldn't it be great if both Trump and Biden got sh!t canned over this...!!!

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Yes it would.... I already know the answer
No, it would not because Biden didn't do anything wrong while Trump is totally corrupt and did do something wrong. Trump deserves to get shit canned over this. Biden does not.
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BTW, the New York times is rated as having a "slight to moderate liberal bias" and a "high" factual reporting rate by the site I use (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/). I think it's a hell of a lot more reliable source than anything in the "conservative media" universe is.
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JBB wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That is a valid point. I guess being that the Hearsay has been verified by Trump and the White House, it may not matter. Ivy, can I get a ruling? Also, what if the people with first hand info come forward? The whistle blower has first hand knowledge of some things which hasn’t been made public, I’d be interested in hearing that.


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What a bunch of garbage. You too are a common core media parrot. No crime was committed and nobody has first hand knowledge of any crime because none was committed.
And YOU have totally bought the bullshit.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
LOL

The network that gave Trump millions in free advertising when everybody thought he had no chance in 2016 now doesn’t want his campaign money

I don’t know why but this just makes me giggle

Wouldn't it be great if both Trump and Biden got sh!t canned over this...!!!

:nod:

Yes it would.... I already know the answer
It is actually looking like a possibility

The ironic thing is that Trump felt it necessary to try to depth charge Biden when The Cherokee is doing it for him.

But JSO sez Biden is clean and his son being paid 50k per month by Ukrainians is part and parcel of a conspiracy theory


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Good for Tim. We don’t deserve him
Truer words were never spoken. :nod: :nod: :nod:
You’re not a fan of Tim?


Me neither.


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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Orange Man probably provided the best response to this: :lol:

The Hill's John Solomon provided a treasure trove of docs/info on the Biden's and Ukraine dealings. But yeah, no biggie.
Twitters liberal colors showing true as they removed the video..It was pushing 9 million views when I saw it.
I read it was a copy right issue since the creator didn’t have Nicklebacks permission to use their song and image. It happens often actually.


But sure, the liberals at Twitter took it down.


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BDKJMU wrote:According to CNN’s Tapper, the leaker is a registered donk....call me clairvoyant, but I said earlier guarantee he’s a donk..

Honest question - how would you have felt if Obama asked a Russia to investigate Romney in 2012? I suspect you’d be foaming at the mouth.

Political affiliation aside, the Trump appointed IG found the claims to be credible and factually accurate. But yeah, let’s just go ahead with your theory.


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JBB wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That is a valid point. I guess being that the Hearsay has been verified by Trump and the White House, it may not matter. Ivy, can I get a ruling? Also, what if the people with first hand info come forward? The whistle blower has first hand knowledge of some things which hasn’t been made public, I’d be interested in hearing that.


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What a bunch of garbage. You too are a common core media parrot. No crime was committed and nobody has first hand knowledge of any crime because none was committed.
Oh, were you there? I was unaware that you have first hand knowledge.



Oh wait, you don’t. Sit down and shut the fuck up. The adults are talking.


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Having used Nickleback alone is reason enough to take it down


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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Twitters liberal colors showing true as they removed the video..It was pushing 9 million views when I saw it.
I read it was a copy right issue since the creator didn’t have Nicklebacks permission to use their song and image. It happens often actually.


But sure, the liberals at Twitter took it down.

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What about the Fair Use doctrine? It sounds like legally Twitter didn’t need to take it down according to the below Cornell legal scholar (who doesn’t sound like a fan of Trump) & would have prevailed in any legal battle with Warner Music Group.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... est/?amp=1
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CID1990 wrote:Having used Nickleback alone is reason enough to take it down


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Thank you. :thumb:

And for the sake of balance...also Dave Mathews.
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CID1990 wrote:Having used Nickleback alone is reason enough to take it down


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Thank you. :thumb:

And for the sake of balance...also Dave Mathews.
4D chess. Trump knew it would be taken down. Pick a home run, just knowing it will be shut down by the Crybaby left. Trump victory again.

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Thank you. :thumb:

And for the sake of balance...also Dave Mathews.
4D chess. Trump knew it would be taken down. Pick a home run, just knowing it will be shut down by the Crybaby left. Trump victory again.

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I don’t know how one can stand all that winning.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
4D chess. Trump knew it would be taken down. Pick a home run, just knowing it will be shut down by the Crybaby left. Trump victory again.

He was right. I am tired of winning.


I don’t know how one can stand all that winning.
Hey! You think just like Trump. He said he was tired of winning and so did you. MAGA brother!
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HI54UNI wrote:
Actually there are case studies that have proved that good schools can overcome those issues.
I’m sure there are. :thumb:

You’ll have to forgive JBB. His UND education limits his understanding.
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
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JBB wrote:
kalm wrote:
I’m sure there are. :thumb:

You’ll have to forgive JBB. His UND education limits his understanding.
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
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JBB wrote:
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
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JBB wrote:
kalm wrote:
I’m sure there are. :thumb:

You’ll have to forgive JBB. His UND education limits his understanding.
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
I don't usually give a damn about grammar on message boards, but this post is full or errors for someone who rails against leftists and their "dumbing down" of the American education system.
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Three deeply problematic aspects of newly released text messages centered on the Ukraine scandal

...

1. There’s an explicitly stated quid pro quo.
A central participant in the messages is Kurt Volker, former special envoy to Ukraine. Until last week, he served in the administration, resigning shortly after he was identified in a complaint filed by a whistleblower in the intelligence community. The whistleblower portrayed Volker as working with European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland to try to run interference between Ukrainian officials and Trump’s personal attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani, who was pressing for Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden.

The text messages suggest that Volker and Sondland might more accurately be described as trying, at times, to effect what Giuliani — and Trump — wanted to see: an investigation into a completely unfounded attempt to link Ukraine to the hacking of the Democratic National Committee network in 2016 and a probe of Biden and work his son Hunter did for an energy company called Burisma Holdings. The Trump-Giuliani theory is that Joe Biden wanted Ukraine to fire its general prosecutor to protect Hunter and Burisma; there remains no significant evidence that this happened.

On July 21, four days before Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky had a phone call in which Trump asked Zelensky to conduct precisely those investigations, Sondland had a text message exchange with Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador in Ukraine. Taylor made clear that Zelensky wanted “Ukraine [to be] taken seriously” and not just serve as “an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.” Part of that, it is later revealed, is getting Zelensky an invitation to meet Trump in Washington.

Shortly before the call on July 25, Volker texted Andrey Yermak, an adviser to Zelensky (who had been inaugurated two months prior). In that message, Volker was explicit about what it would take to get that meeting.

“Heard from White House,” Volker wrote, “assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / ‘get to the bottom of what happened’ in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”
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Those are some real good lookin' text messages released by the House today.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I read it was a copy right issue since the creator didn’t have Nicklebacks permission to use their song and image. It happens often actually.


But sure, the liberals at Twitter took it down.

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What about the Fair Use doctrine? It sounds like legally Twitter didn’t need to take it down according to the below Cornell legal scholar (who doesn’t sound like a fan of Trump) & would have prevailed in any legal battle with Warner Music Group.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... est/?amp=1
You think it’s possible the artist told them to remove it?

We don’t know for sure so I wouldn’t jump to some left wing conspiracy theory.


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JBB wrote:
kalm wrote:
I’m sure there are. :thumb:

You’ll have to forgive JBB. His UND education limits his understanding.
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
Quit your bitching, snowflake.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Three deeply problematic aspects of newly released text messages centered on the Ukraine scandal

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1. There’s an explicitly stated quid pro quo.
A central participant in the messages is Kurt Volker, former special envoy to Ukraine. Until last week, he served in the administration, resigning shortly after he was identified in a complaint filed by a whistleblower in the intelligence community. The whistleblower portrayed Volker as working with European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland to try to run interference between Ukrainian officials and Trump’s personal attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani, who was pressing for Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden.

The text messages suggest that Volker and Sondland might more accurately be described as trying, at times, to effect what Giuliani — and Trump — wanted to see: an investigation into a completely unfounded attempt to link Ukraine to the hacking of the Democratic National Committee network in 2016 and a probe of Biden and work his son Hunter did for an energy company called Burisma Holdings. The Trump-Giuliani theory is that Joe Biden wanted Ukraine to fire its general prosecutor to protect Hunter and Burisma; there remains no significant evidence that this happened.

On July 21, four days before Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky had a phone call in which Trump asked Zelensky to conduct precisely those investigations, Sondland had a text message exchange with Bill Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador in Ukraine. Taylor made clear that Zelensky wanted “Ukraine [to be] taken seriously” and not just serve as “an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.” Part of that, it is later revealed, is getting Zelensky an invitation to meet Trump in Washington.

Shortly before the call on July 25, Volker texted Andrey Yermak, an adviser to Zelensky (who had been inaugurated two months prior). In that message, Volker was explicit about what it would take to get that meeting.

“Heard from White House,” Volker wrote, “assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / ‘get to the bottom of what happened’ in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... utType=amp
I could be thinking of someone else but isn’t Volker a known liar, cheat and all around dubious person?


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Ibanez wrote:
I could be thinking of someone else but isn’t Volker a known liar, cheat and all around dubious person?


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JBB wrote:
kalm wrote:
I’m sure there are. :thumb:

You’ll have to forgive JBB. His UND education limits his understanding.
:lol: yes. I suppose a “good” school can exist if it defies the federal governments dumbing down. It has been going on for some time. No phonetics, no logic used in mathematics only confusing methods, no history, no equality only racial hate and division all centrally controlled.

In 2010 it all became common core and you idiots now are assuring us there can still be a good school? :dunce:

Every one of the schools shot-up because of the intolerable conditions was in the eyes of the educators running it a”good school”. :clap:

A good school is what? :rofl: It must be one so privileged it can overcome the interference of the leftist regimes :thumb: :roll:
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