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HI54UNI wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Didn't want to start a new thread, but here's an interesting read on the subject:

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/100-pct ... hink-72252" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting read. It touches on the need for storage which is key to renewables. This link within the story was also interesting.

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/renewab ... alia-62268

A couple of things to keep in mind as you read these articles -

-These articles are about Europe and Austrailia. Average electric price in Austrailia is 22-46 cents per kwh. Germany is 31 cents, Denmark is 40, France is 19, Belgium is 29. The us is 8 to 17. Right now small, local wind and solar installations are easily competitive in those countries because of the high rates.
-Comparing the cost of energy for wind and fossil fuel is not comparing apples to apples. Fossil fuel plants are guaranteed to provide energy 24/7. Renewables, without storage, cannot. So without storage you need to add the cost of a gas plant to the renewable cost to get a true cost. Unless you want to sit in the dark at times.



Solve the storage problem and you can become very, very rich.
One more thing - the money we are foolishly spending to subsidize wind would be better spent on increasing energy efficiency. :twocents:
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Seahawks08 wrote:
I can agree to that. But there are way to many people that think America is #1 in everything and that anything that "socialist Europe" does is evil and wouldn't work here, even if modified. America is a great country, but we're too arrogant in our thinking that we have the best ways. For example, we try to install/influence Democracy in countries where it just won't work...i.e. Iraq.
:clap: Amen brother. Extremely relevant and 8 minutes of pure gold:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWKccHQFOA[/youtube]
Newsroom is good stuff, especially his rant on the Tea Party.
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BTW good porn comes out of Estonia!
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especially his rant on the Tea Party.
Yes, another awesome moment. :nod:

Hopefully, season 2 is as good as the first. :thumb:
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