Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

[DSUrocks07]

Latest from RCP:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... s_ups.html

If that happens and he gets New Hampshire, say hello Mr. President.



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[CAA Flagship]

[DSUrocks07]

“This is the news of the millennium!” said the story on WorldPoliticus.com. Citing unnamed FBI sources, it claimed Hillary Clinton will be indicted in 2017 for crimes related to her email scandal.

“Your Prayers Have Been Answered,” declared the headline.

For Trump supporters, that certainly seemed to be the case. They helped the baseless story generate over 140,000 shares, reactions, and comments on Facebook.

Meanwhile, roughly 6,000 miles away in a small town in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, a young man watched as money began trickling into his Google AdSense account.

Over the past year, the Macedonian town of Veles (population 45,000) has experienced a digital gold rush as locals launched at least 140 US politics websites. These sites have American-sounding domain names such as WorldPoliticus.com, TrumpVision365.com, USConservativeToday.com, DonaldTrumpNews.co, and USADailyPolitics.com. They almost all publish aggressively pro-Trump content aimed at conservatives and Trump supporters in the US.

The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don’t care about Donald Trump. They are responding to straightforward economic incentives: As Facebook regularly reveals in earnings reports, a US Facebook user is worth about four times a user outside the US. The fraction-of-a-penny-per-click of US display advertising — a declining market for American publishers — goes a long way in Veles. Several teens and young men who run these sites told BuzzFeed News that they learned the best way to generate traffic is to get their politics stories to spread on Facebook — and the best way to generate shares on Facebook is to publish sensationalist and often false content that caters to Trump supporters.

As a result, this strange hub of pro-Trump sites in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is now playing a significant role in propagating the kind of false and misleading content that was identified in a recent BuzzFeed News analysis of hyperpartisan Facebook pages. These sites open a window into the economic incentives behind producing misinformation specifically for the wealthiest advertising markets and specifically for Facebook, the world’s largest social network, as well as within online advertising networks such as Google AdSense.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman ... noE44W7bL1

I'm sure there are just as many Anti-Trump sites for JSO to masterbate to the same thing.

Ain't capitalism grand!

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[kalm]

Your party and your way of thinking gave rise to Trump. Congrats!

Idiot bandwagoners like 93 gave rise to Trump.

Ummm...no. Idiot Democrats and pseudo liberals who value establishment Democratic politics over reality are the reason this race is even close.

[Skjellyfetti]

Idiot bandwagoners like 93 gave rise to Trump.

Ummm...no. Idiot Democrats and pseudo liberals who value establishment Democratic politics over reality are the reason this race is even close.

I don't disagree.

But, they're not the reason for the rise of Trump.

[93henfan]

FWIW, I have never voted for Trump.

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[kalm]

Ummm...no. Idiot Democrats and pseudo liberals who value establishment Democratic politics over reality are the reason this race is even close.

I don't disagree.

But, they're not the reason for the rise of Trump.

Neither are disenfranchised, moderate gun enthusiasts like 93.

[GannonFan]

I don't disagree.

But, they're not the reason for the rise of Trump.

Neither are disenfranchised, moderate gun enthusiasts like 93.

I'm with kalmie on this one - saying that Trump is solely the cause of the right and the politics of hate or no or anything else is just short-sighted. Trump is the result of the whole political system, left and right. That elite snobbery of the left as they dismiss everything from the right as deplorable hasn't improved the political climate.

This is where I blame Obama a little. I was watching a PBS show last week when traveling - the show was about political campaigns. Obama's campaign in 2008 was masterful, and watching it again you realize why - he had so much potential to change the political narrative as he seemed like he could move past the tit for tat quagmire that has been our system for at least since the first Clinton. The fact that he not only failed but fully descended to that system is always going to be a significant blemish on his Presidency. He kept the environment going that led to Trump.

I blame JSO as well.

[CAA Flagship]

Neither are disenfranchised, moderate gun enthusiasts like 93.

I'm with kalmie on this one - saying that Trump is solely the cause of the right and the politics of hate or no or anything else is just short-sighted. Trump is the result of the whole political system, left and right. That elite snobbery of the left as they dismiss everything from the right as deplorable hasn't improved the political climate.

This is where I blame Obama a little. I was watching a PBS show last week when traveling - the show was about political campaigns. Obama's campaign in 2008 was masterful, and watching it again you realize why - he had so much potential to change the political narrative as he seemed like he could move past the tit for tat quagmire that has been our system for at least since the first Clinton. The fact that he not only failed but fully descended to that system is always going to be a significant blemish on his Presidency. He kept the environment going that led to Trump.

I blame JSO as well.

A little????

[93henfan]

...he had so much potential to change the political narrative as he seemed like he could move past the tit for tat quagmire that has been our system for at least since the first Clinton. The fact that he not only failed but fully descended to that system is always going to be a significant blemish on his Presidency...

Just a huge disappointment.

And you didn't even touch on his stoking of racial division in the country. The one guy who was in a unique position to heal, and he completely whiffed.

Never once did Obama extend an olive branch to his enemies. He only emboldened them.

[GannonFan]

I'm with kalmie on this one - saying that Trump is solely the cause of the right and the politics of hate or no or anything else is just short-sighted. Trump is the result of the whole political system, left and right. That elite snobbery of the left as they dismiss everything from the right as deplorable hasn't improved the political climate.

This is where I blame Obama a little. I was watching a PBS show last week when traveling - the show was about political campaigns. Obama's campaign in 2008 was masterful, and watching it again you realize why - he had so much potential to change the political narrative as he seemed like he could move past the tit for tat quagmire that has been our system for at least since the first Clinton. The fact that he not only failed but fully descended to that system is always going to be a significant blemish on his Presidency. He kept the environment going that led to Trump.

I blame JSO as well.

A little????

Yeah, he blew it with that one. But in the end, he just perpetuated the system that was already there - he joined in rather than rising above it. Pity, could've been so much better.

[Ivytalk]

FWIW, I have never voted for Trump.

So then you must've been one of those pro- Trump indies who couldn't vote in the closed DE primary. How convenient. Gives you plausible deniability.

[93henfan]

FWIW, I have never voted for Trump.

So then you must've been one of those pro- Trump indies who couldn't vote in the closed DE primary. How convenient. Gives you plausible deniability.

Has nothing to do with plausible deniability. I had plenty of time to switch from Independent to Republican if I wanted to vote for Trump.

[Ivytalk]

So then you must've been one of those pro- Trump indies who couldn't vote in the closed DE primary. How convenient. Gives you plausible deniability.

Has nothing to do with plausible deniability. I had plenty of time to switch from Independent to Republican if I wanted to vote for Trump.

Then you were just blowing smoke out your arse with all those pro-Trump posts. In retrospect, you really turned on a dime.

[93henfan]

Has nothing to do with plausible deniability. I had plenty of time to switch from Independent to Republican if I wanted to vote for Trump.

Then you were just blowing smoke out your arse with all those pro-Trump posts. In retrospect, you really turned on a dime.

I'll be voting tomorrow. I haven't seen enough yet to make my decision, so I'm catching all the rallies tonight. That Hillary sure drew a big crowd in Philly! She was so charismatic that nobody really paid any attention to all the inconsequential props on the stage with her, like Bill, Chelsea, Michelle Obama, POTUS, Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. Everybody was obviously there to see Hillary. She may have won my vote.

[Skjellyfetti]

I don't disagree.

But, they're not the reason for the rise of Trump.

Neither are disenfranchised, moderate gun enthusiasts like 93.

Well, I don't get how 93 is disenfranchised...

But, he certainly doesn't vote simply on his "moderate gun enthusiast" label. If so, why did he vote for Obama again?








edit.

And, now I see 93's posts above me that he did not vote for Trump in the primary and isn't planning on voting for him in the general.

I take it back. Certainly read something different from his posting... and, I was wrong.


Btw, who did you vote for in the primaries?

[93henfan]

Neither are disenfranchised, moderate gun enthusiasts like 93.

Well, I don't get how 93 is disenfranchised...

But, he certainly doesn't vote simply on his "moderate gun enthusiast" label. If so, why did he vote for Obama again?

I think Gannonfan summed up 2008 nicely above. I have never liked John McCain going back many years, and we all know how sharp Sarah Palin is. I didn't vote for Obama in 2012.

I don't second guess any of my decisions, and I'll readily admit when I make mistakes. How about you?

[Ivytalk]

Then you were just blowing smoke out your arse with all those pro-Trump posts. In retrospect, you really turned on a dime.

I'll be voting tomorrow. I haven't seen enough yet to make my decision, so I'm catching all the rallies tonight. That Hillary sure drew a big crowd in Philly! She was so charismatic that nobody really paid any attention to all the inconsequential props on the stage with her, like Bill, Chelsea, Michelle Obama, POTUS, Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. Everybody was obviously there to see Hillary. She may have won my vote.

Hillary is a Fvcking rock star. Vote for Her.

[93henfan]

I'll be voting tomorrow. I haven't seen enough yet to make my decision, so I'm catching all the rallies tonight. That Hillary sure drew a big crowd in Philly! She was so charismatic that nobody really paid any attention to all the inconsequential props on the stage with her, like Bill, Chelsea, Michelle Obama, POTUS, Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. Everybody was obviously there to see Hillary. She may have won my vote.

Hillary is a Fvcking rock star. Vote for Her.

It's not really the rock star syndrome as much as the fact that I find her to be a naturally attractive woman. She really makes it move for me.

[Ivytalk]

Hillary is a Fvcking rock star. Vote for Her.

It's not really the rock star syndrome as much as the fact that I find her to be a naturally attractive woman. She really makes it move for me.

Yeah, with those tremors, she has that Reno thing going on.

[Vidav]

Hillary is a Fvcking rock star. Vote for Her.

It's not really the rock star syndrome as much as the fact that I find her to be a naturally attractive woman. She really makes it move for me.

I loled.

[93henfan]

It's not really the rock star syndrome as much as the fact that I find her to be a naturally attractive woman. She really makes it move for me.

Yeah, with those tremors, she has that Reno thing going on.

Speaking of making it move, God rest her soul. 'Ole Janet was a looker! RIP, sexy.

[Ivytalk]

Yeah, with those tremors, she has that Reno thing going on.

Speaking of making it move, God rest her soul. 'Ole Janet was a looker! RIP, sexy.

Yep. The Waco Kid.

[SDHornet]

So who is high turnout suppose to favor in this thing? I get the high turnout favoring Obama in his elections, but hilldog doesn't seem to get the excitement of "those people" going this time around. Does that mean a lot of Trump folks are hitting the polls? Just curious.