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All communication with a client isn't privileged

This speaks mostly to the fact that Cohen is barely a lawyer. Could only name 3 clients. Hardly any of his documents were privileged. He's a fixer (as his own lawyer describes him). :lol:

We don't know how many of the 200k documents relate to Trump... But.. someone has sure been agitated as of late. :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:All communication with a client isn't privileged

This speaks mostly to the fact that Cohen is barely a lawyer. Could only name 3 clients. Hardly any of his documents were privileged. He's a fixer (as his own lawyer describes him). :lol:

We don't know how many of the 200k documents relate to Trump... But.. someone has sure been agitated as of late. :coffee:
He's been agitated for something like the past two decades. That's his schtick.
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Pst...Hey, Trump administration...we’re investigating the Trump administration...just wanted to keep you in the loop.... :lol:
Gotcha. So you acknowledge the FBI was spying on the Trump admin..
No, didn't you hear? The spy was protecting Trump from the Russians...RUSSIANS!!!! :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, it was fun while it lasted.

I look forward to the next theory. :lol:
President Donald Trump’s claim that the FBI embedded a spy in his campaign for political purposes began to crumble Wednesday after a prominent Republican, as well as defenders of the president, said he might have the story wrong.

In less than 24 hours, Trump’s allegations were publicly refuted by House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), one of just nine lawmakers briefed on highly classified details of the FBI’s operation; Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano, a Trump favorite; and prominent legal scholar Alan Dershowitz, a vocal Trump ally who has advised the president on legal strategy.

Legal experts and Trump critics say the defections have exposed cracks in the president’s narrative and undermine his attempts to discredit the FBI investigation into Russian contacts with his campaign as a partisan, “deep state” attack on his presidential bid.

And notably, a slew of Trump's congressional allies who have been active purveyors of what the president dubbed “spygate” — including Reps. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz and Lee Zeldin — were silent Wednesday. POLITICO reached out to a handful of these lawmakers and did not hear back. Only Rep. Mark Meadows had weighed in by late afternoon, suggesting the Justice Department couldn’t be trusted to explain away the controversy.
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Paul Ryan also now an agent of the Deep State.

Ryan says he agrees with Gowdy that FBI acted appropriately
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics ... index.html
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Paul Ryan also now an agent of the Deep State.

Ryan says he agrees with Gowdy that FBI acted appropriately
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics ... index.html
I would have to say both those guys are lining up their future political pundit careers by playing it down the middle.

On a separate subject, I'm starting to think there isn't some grand conspiracy, but that our FBI and DOJ leadership is full of incompetents.
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SeattleGriz wrote:our FBI and DOJ leadership is full of incompetents.
Handpicked by Trump. :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:our FBI and DOJ leadership is full of incompetents.
Handpicked by Trump. :coffee:
As opposed to the winners chosen by the Omniscient, All-Merciful, and Most Kool Potentate, Barack “Where My Legacy Be At?” Obama. :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:our FBI and DOJ leadership is full of incompetents.
Handpicked by Trump. :coffee:
Some by Trump, but mostly Obama holdovers that have either left or been demoted/fired and of course the lifers that weren't picked by either.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Paul Ryan also now an agent of the Deep State.

Ryan says he agrees with Gowdy that FBI acted appropriately
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics ... index.html
Also CNN:
(CNN)Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe has requested the Senate Judiciary Committee provide him with immunity from prosecution in exchange for testifying at an upcoming congressional hearing focused on how senior officials at the FBI and Justice Department handled the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server, according to a letter obtained by CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/politics ... index.html

So McCabe is going to turn state evidence for immunity but the FBI did nothing wrong...hmmm. Hey if the deal goes through, at least McCabe can keep that $500k he raised for his defense fund thru gofundme. Winning!
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The IG report is going to come out in a couple weeks....

Its going to be GREAT

good for at least another 10-15 thread pages of bickering, because it is going to be critical of just about everything... including Comey's 11th hour announcement on Carlos Danger's laptop


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CID1990 wrote:The IG report is going to come out in a couple weeks....

Its going to be GREAT

good for at least another 10-15 thread pages of bickering, because it is going to be critical of just about everything... including Comey's 11th hour announcement on Carlos Danger's laptop


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We'll see, no doubt what Horowitz has already dug up has kicked up some dust (just look at the "retirements" and demotions), but the DOJ and FBI have had a few weeks to "redact" anything "classified". It will be interesting to see what actually makes the final cut.

Oh and anyone see that long time Senate intelligence committee staffer get busted for leaking classified info? Think he invokes the hillary defense?
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SDHornet wrote:
CID1990 wrote:The IG report is going to come out in a couple weeks....

Its going to be GREAT

good for at least another 10-15 thread pages of bickering, because it is going to be critical of just about everything... including Comey's 11th hour announcement on Carlos Danger's laptop


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We'll see, no doubt what Horowitz has already dug up has kicked up some dust (just look at the "retirements" and demotions), but the DOJ and FBI have had a few weeks to "redact" anything "classified". It will be interesting to see what actually makes the final cut.

Oh and anyone see that long time Senate intelligence committee staffer get busted for leaking classified info? Think he invokes the hillary defense?
I don't get into "spy games" much, because I have no leg to stand on as far as actual knowledge, but have been reading for awhile the Trump admin has been setting traps to catch leakers.

Every time I read about an unnamed source and then see POTUS hammer fake news, I wonder if it was planted.

Once again, I have no clue. Time will tell.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
SDHornet wrote: We'll see, no doubt what Horowitz has already dug up has kicked up some dust (just look at the "retirements" and demotions), but the DOJ and FBI have had a few weeks to "redact" anything "classified". It will be interesting to see what actually makes the final cut.

Oh and anyone see that long time Senate intelligence committee staffer get busted for leaking classified info? Think he invokes the hillary defense?
I don't get into "spy games" much, because I have no leg to stand on as far as actual knowledge, but have been reading for awhile the Trump admin has been setting traps to catch leakers.

Every time I read about an unnamed source and then see POTUS hammer fake news, I wonder if it was planted.

Once again, I have no clue. Time will tell.
Theyre called canary traps but they usually only catch amateurs

so basically any DC staffer ever, and 90% of all executive cabinets


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IG report due out in less than a week. Horowitz to testify the following Monday.

Will probably hit Comey and others for Clinton email investigation and announcements. I don't think it's going to uncover a Deep State conspiracy to bring down Trump or have much effect on the Mueller investigation. But, we'll see. :thumb:

Next week should be pretty interesting. Manafort also stands a decent chance to lose his $10 million bail and be locked up pretrial for witness tampering. :lol: And, I think prosecutors get access to Cohen's non-protected documents seized in the raid next week. :D Stock up on popcorn. We're heading to #200.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Stock up on popcorn. We're heading to #200.
I have full faith in the Dems to blow another election and for this thing to go on to January of 2025 - surely you'll be well past #200 by then. #2000 might be the real target. Aim high! :rofl:
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Stock up on popcorn. We're heading to #200.
200 what? :?

Can’t be the Bicentennial. :winky:

There have been only 45 Presidents. :blink:

OH, I GET IT. PAGES IN THIS GODFORSAKEN THREAD! :mrgreen:
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200 indictments.

Manafort facing 200 years.

So many possibilities. :D
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This is still a thing?
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AZGrizFan wrote:This is still a thing?
Yup, still waiting on that Russian collusion thing to show up.
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I mentioned this weeks ago. Talk is that McCabe instructed agents Strzok and Pientka to shape their 302s to make it look as if Gen Flynn lied.

Interesting the FBI won't turn over the 302s, thus implying all records were destroyed.

Funny how just three short months ago, Trump was an asshole for McCabe being canned and he was going to sue Trump, to him now asking for immunity to spill the beans.

Yeah, no swamp here.
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HPSCI is such a shitshow. :lol:

I don't think they feuded so much with Obama's DOJ.
Rosenstein plans to call on House to investigate its own staff

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's ongoing battle with House Republicans reached new heights Tuesday, as the No. 2 senior leader of the Justice Department plans to call on the House to investigate its own committee staff.

Rosenstein has butted heads with House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes for months over a subpoena for documents related to the Russia investigation, but the battle spilled out into public view Tuesday after Fox News reported staff on the committee felt "personally attacked" at a meeting with Rosenstein in January.

Justice Department officials dispute the recounting of the closed-door meeting detailed in the story, and Rosenstein plans to "request that the House general counsel conduct an internal investigation of these Congressional staffers' conduct" when he returns from a foreign trip this week, DOJ said.

"The Deputy Attorney General never threatened anyone in the room with a criminal investigation," a Justice Department official said. "The FBI Director, the senior career ethics adviser for the Department, and the Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs who were all present at this meeting are all quite clear that the characterization of events laid out here is false.

"The Deputy Attorney General was making the point -- after being threatened with contempt -- that as an American citizen charged with the offense of contempt of Congress, he would have the right to defend himself, including requesting production of relevant emails and text messages and calling them as witnesses to demonstrate that their allegations are false," the official said. "That is why he put them on notice to retain relevant emails and text messages, and he hopes they did so."

Another former US official, also present at the meeting, agreed that at no time did Rosenstein threaten any House staff with a criminal investigation.

A spokesperson for Nunes did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The DOJ official said that no formal complaint about Rosenstein's conduct has ever been filed with the House general counsel or inspector general to his knowledge.

While Rosenstein and Nunes have been trading barbs for months for the California Republican's document requests, the two nevertheless went to dinner with a mutual friend on the evening of the January meeting.

Nunes never raised Rosenstein's conduct that evening, the official added.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:HPSCI is such a shitshow. :lol:

I don't think they feuded so much with Obama's DOJ.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/12/poli ... index.html
Which one is worse. The Senate or the House version?
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The House. By a country mile.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:HPSCI is such a shitshow. :lol:

I don't think they feuded so much with Obama's DOJ.
How long did Obama's DOJ fail to comply with a Congressional subpoena for documents? And can anyone expect the HPSCI to complete its investigation without the documents it has under subpoena?

2nd question is rhetorical...because that's exactly why the DOJ has not complied (and probably won't comply)...of course anyone with a brain already knows that. :coffee:
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