Friday Semi - Sam Houston @ NDSU

[kalm]

Littlejohn should have been flagged there.

[JohnStOnge]

I wrote before the game in another thread that North Dakota State was in the interesting position of facing its weakest opponent so far in the playoffs in the semifinals and I think what we saw is consistent with that belief.

Sam Houston State made it kind of interesting for a while by selling out to stop the run since North Dakota State had suffered injuries at the wide receiver position. But in the end it didn't matter. They were totally outclassed.

Sam Houston State was in the semis because it had a good draw in the first two games then played Villanova without its Payton Award winning starting quarterback in the quarterfinals. It was a borderline playoff caliber team that had incredible luck to this point. But tonight the luck ran out even though North Dakota State did have another injury at the wide receiver position so as to allow Sam Houston State to have a better chance of getting away with trying to sell out to stop the run.

[AZGrizFan]

I wrote before the game in another thread that North Dakota State was in the interesting position of facing its weakest opponent so far in the playoffs in the semifinals and I think what we saw is consistent with that belief.

Sam Houston State made it kind of interesting for a while by selling out to stop the run since North Dakota State had suffered injuries at the wide receiver position. But in the end it didn't matter. They were totally outclassed.

Sam Houston State was in the semis because it had a good draw in the first two games then played Villanova without its Payton Award winning starting quarterback in the quarterfinals. It was a borderline playoff caliber team that had incredible luck to this point. But tonight the luck ran out even though North Dakota State did have another injury at the wide receiver position so as to allow Sam Houston State to have a better chance of getting away with trying to sell out to stop the run.

No team that gets blown out by a D-II school should EVER be representing their division in the semifinals. Ought to be some kind of rule against it.

[JohnStOnge]

No team that gets blown out by a D-II school should EVER be representing their division in the semifinals. Ought to be some kind of rule against it.

Not the first time it's happened. BTW the D-II team that pistol whipped Sam Houston State is playing in the D-II national championship game tomorrow. They'd beat an awful lot of FCS teams.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The Bison do not run the spread type offense so the deep ball is not a major component of the offense.

This makes no sense. Power teams are usually more likely to chuck it deep, not less (at least on a per-pass basis). NDSU may not go deep much, but most power running teams like to set up play action deep balls.

Ya, it does make sense if you have watched the Bison.

[Mvemjsunpx]

This makes no sense. Power teams are usually more likely to chuck it deep, not less (at least on a per-pass basis). NDSU may not go deep much, but most power running teams like to set up play action deep balls.

Ya, it does make sense if you have watched the Bison.

Huh?

My point was that spread ≠ deep ball and that power ≠ short passes. If anything, the tendencies go the other direction for most teams.

[dal4018]

No team that gets blown out by a D-II school should EVER be representing their division in the semifinals. Ought to be some kind of rule against it.

Not the first time it's happened. BTW the D-II team that pistol whipped Sam Houston State is playing in the D-II national championship game tomorrow. They'd beat an awful lot of FCS teams.

Is that school Minnesota St????

[Mvemjsunpx]

Not the first time it's happened. BTW the D-II team that pistol whipped Sam Houston State is playing in the D-II national championship game tomorrow. They'd beat an awful lot of FCS teams.

Is that school Minnesota St????

No. CSU-Pueblo.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Ya, it does make sense if you have watched the Bison.

Huh?

My point was that spread ≠ deep ball and that power ≠ short passes. If anything, the tendencies go the other direction for most teams.

Like I said, you do not watch much Bison football.

Power running game = short passes in the Bison offense.

FBs - TEs - RBs get a lot of balls thrown to them. The deep ball is used very occasionally.

[kalm]

I wrote before the game in another thread that North Dakota State was in the interesting position of facing its weakest opponent so far in the playoffs in the semifinals and I think what we saw is consistent with that belief.

Sam Houston State made it kind of interesting for a while by selling out to stop the run since North Dakota State had suffered injuries at the wide receiver position. But in the end it didn't matter. They were totally outclassed.

Sam Houston State was in the semis because it had a good draw in the first two games then played Villanova without its Payton Award winning starting quarterback in the quarterfinals. It was a borderline playoff caliber team that had incredible luck to this point. But tonight the luck ran out even though North Dakota State did have another injury at the wide receiver position so as to allow Sam Houston State to have a better chance of getting away with trying to sell out to stop the run.

No team that gets blown out by a D-II school should EVER be representing their division in the semifinals. Ought to be some kind of rule against it.

SHSU's run lends credence to the ideas that teams can improve and the expanded field is a positive. I know SHSU was the auto but they could have easily been an at-large.

[kalm]

Huh?

My point was that spread ≠ deep ball and that power ≠ short passes. If anything, the tendencies go the other direction for most teams.

Like I said, you do not watch much Bison football.

Power running game = short passes in the Bison offense.

FBs - TEs - RBs get a lot of balls thrown to them. The deep ball is used very occasionally.

But that wasn't your initial claim. It's ok to sometimes admit you were mistaken.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Like I said, you do not watch much Bison football.

Power running game = short passes in the Bison offense.

FBs - TEs - RBs get a lot of balls thrown to them. The deep ball is used very occasionally.

But that wasn't your initial claim. It's ok to sometimes admit you were mistaken.

Every spread team I have watched the Bison play throws the ball deep downfield....every one.

The Bison do throw it deep but very occasionally. The west-coast system they run is a short passing game....period.

[kalm]

But that wasn't your initial claim. It's ok to sometimes admit you were mistaken.

Every spread team I have watched the Bison play throws the ball deep downfield....every one.

The Bison do throw it deep but very occasionally. The west-coast system they run is a short passing game....period.

All teams can throw deep balls just like all teams can utilize the short passing game. It's also situational, so a team might feel their best chance to beat the Bison is taking a few shots. The bison might shy away from the deep ball because they lack a threat at WR.

But you generalized that since bison don't run the spread, they don't throw the deep ball.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Every spread team I have watched the Bison play throws the ball deep downfield....every one.

The Bison do throw it deep but very occasionally. The west-coast system they run is a short passing game....period.

All teams can throw deep balls just like all teams can utilize the short passing game. It's also situational, so a team might feel their best chance to beat the Bison is taking a few shots. The bison might shy away from the deep ball because they lack a threat at WR.

But you generalized that since bison don't run the spread, they don't throw the deep ball.

That is why I said it. I'll say it slower for you. Every spread team has thrown deep many times in every game I have watched the Bison play. That "generalization' as you said, pertains to exactly why I said it.

[kalm]

All teams can throw deep balls just like all teams can utilize the short passing game. It's also situational, so a team might feel their best chance to beat the Bison is taking a few shots. The bison might shy away from the deep ball because they lack a threat at WR.

But you generalized that since bison don't run the spread, they don't throw the deep ball.

That is why I said it. I'll say it slower for you. Every spread team has thrown deep many times in every game I have watched the Bison play. That "generalization' as you said, pertains to exactly why I said it.

But you're initial generalization didn't include that caveat, did it? That's why you were called out on it. The struggle bus...you need to get off at the next stop.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well cannot help non comprehension....

Wonder why this football forum is so dead....

[kalm]

Well cannot help non comprehension....

Sums it up nicely.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well cannot help non comprehension....

Sums it up nicely.

Go back and read what I said.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Then Emanuel and everyone else must step their game if they are to make it 4 in a row.Neither team has a decent passing attack to speak of SHSU barely averages 200 plus yds a game and NDSU brings back thoughts of Nebraska in the 70s when it comes to throwing the ball.A surprise bomb might win it for either team.Neither team has a top flight WR to make the national list for receptions&yds.

Actually, NDSU has a pretty decent passing game. The Bison do not run the spread type offense so the deep ball is not a major component of the offense.

Roll out passes, screens, TEs catching balls are the elements of the Bison passing game.

It is pretty effective...

Pretty easy kalm.....

As I said, every spread team I have watched goes deep. The Bison don't. What type of offense do the Bison run?

Really easy.

[kalm]

Actually, NDSU has a pretty decent passing game. The Bison do not run the spread type offense so the deep ball is not a major component of the offense.

Roll out passes, screens, TEs catching balls are the elements of the Bison passing game.

It is pretty effective...

Pretty easy kalm.....

As I said, every spread team I have watched goes deep. The Bison don't. What type of offense do the Bison run?

Really easy.

The Bison do not run the spread type offense so the deep ball is not a major component of the offense.

This is exactly what you got called out on.

No need to keep digging that hole although I know you will.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Holy shit you BSC fans have "stupid" monopolized...



4-PEAT!!

[kalm]

Holy shit you BSC fans have "stupid" monopolized...

So either you honestly think the deep ball is only a major part of a spread type offense, or you cannot admit when you're wrong.

[kalm]

Holy shit you BSC fans have "stupid" monopolized...



4-PEAT!!

Nice security blanket edit.

[Grizalltheway]

Holy shit you BSC fans have "stupid" monopolized...



4-PEAT!!

Says the guy who believes in fairytales.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Holy **** you BSC fans have "stupid" monopolized...

So either you honestly think the deep ball is only a major part of a spread type offense, or you cannot admit when you're wrong.

Man, is there anything up between your ears. You keep adding shit on to what you think I said.

Go read what I said. But it will not matter because all you do is deflect and imply crap.

I'll slow it down again for the mental giant you think you are.....Where did I say that is a "major component". Do I need to highlight what I said again?

Every spread team I have watched the Bison play......HAS USED THE DEEP BALL. The Bison do not. Now if you cannot read my original post then whatever. Keep up the argument.

"The Bison do not run the spread type offense so the deep ball is not a major component of the offense".

Kalm....can you understand that. Pretty simple. Every spread team has thrown deep on the Bison this year. Is it a major component? Maybe, but it has been used by the Bison opponents. Now what else did I say in your mind.....