US Military Spends More Than Next Ten Countries Combined

[93henfan]

France is sixth

Yeah. They spend $500M for a ship and $1B for an interior designer to ensure it's faaaaaabulous!

[CID1990]

I'm sure you would just love for the US to completely do away with the military and let China become the world's military force. There doesn't need to be an immediate threat of invasion. Having the military we do is deterrent enough.

But I suppose your Progressive train of thought would believe that just sitting around holding hands and asking 'bad guys' not to harm us will do the trick....

If stupidity were painful you would be rolling on the floor in agony right now.

Whats wrong with letting China piss away their wealth trying to be the world's policeman, anyway?

Nothing wrong with it at all as far as I am concerned, but I dont see them expending a whole lot of blood and treasure on humanitarian ventures

The world might not be a better place with China as hegemon, but it'll damn sure be wiser

[93henfan]

The world might not be a better place with China as hegemon, but it'll damn sure be wiser

Hegemon? Is that like Pokemon?

[Ibanez]

The world might not be a better place with China as hegemon, but it'll damn sure be wiser

Hegemon? Is that like Pokemon?

GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL!

[Chizzang]

Well I, for one, would LOVE to find out which one of you is right on this...

THIS ^ Me too



Honestly I don't have a clue what the ultimate reaction would be
But I'd love to find out

[GSUhooligan]

Base expenditures on what's good for the military and not what's good for defense contractors and that should pare down the spending a good bit.

Can't happen, every defense contractor owns several congressmen. We'll continue to buy **** that the General's don't want or need whether we like it or not....this is where the real welfare is.

I don't agree with you on much, but I do with you here....

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Good

Thats the way it should be.

Our military should be stream-lined but I have no problem with having the strongest military on the planet.

Nope, keep spending on the military its better than the alternative

Remember the money they "save" if they ever do "cut spending" will just be spent on welfare and education so its a complete waste of money. Keep blowing it on cool stuff in the military, and cut back on welfare and education. Those are the real money pits.

[93henfan]

The Marine Corps, save for being partner to this Joint Strike Fighter debacle, should be a model for how the military can operate on a leaner budget. I'm not going to rehash everything that has been discussed in other threads ad nauseum, but the Marine Corps gets by just fine on Cobras when the Army "needed" Apaches. The Marine Corps gets by just fine with Hueys still where the Army "needed" Blackhawks.

When Marines travel, they look for the cheapest government or otherwise available lodging and stay there. Conversely, when I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, Air Force personnel routinely got waivers from staying at Camp Pendleton lodging because it was "subpar" and they stayed at hotels off base for double or triple the price.

When I was a Marine, we lived in barracks and ate in mess halls that were sometimes 50+ years old. I got out and went to work as a civilian in construction contracting on an Air Force Base and I see the Air Force tearing down barracks that were twenty years old and building new ones (for the limited number of Airmen who even live on base - most draw BAH and go off base). The new construction on Air Force bases would sicken most people. Meanwhile, I am now working on a Marine Corps Base again, where the General's HQ Building was built probably before Hoover was President, and the building I work is considered fancy because it was built in 1996. The fanciest building of all on the base is... you guessed it... the Navy Hospital.

[mrklean]

The Marine Corps, save for being partner to this Joint Strike Fighter debacle, should be a model for how the military can operate on a leaner budget. I'm not going to rehash everything that has been discussed in other threads ad nauseum, but the Marine Corps gets by just fine on Cobras when the Army "needed" Apaches. The Marine Corps gets by just fine with Hueys still where the Army "needed" Blackhawks.

When Marines travel, they look for the cheapest government or otherwise available lodging and stay there. Conversely, when I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, Air Force personnel routinely got waivers from staying at Camp Pendleton lodging because it was "subpar" and they staid at hotels off base for double or triple the price.

When I was a Marine, we lived in barracks and ate in mess halls that were sometimes 50+ years old. I got out and went to work as a civilian in construction contracting on an Air Force Base and I see the Air Force tearing down barracks that were twenty years old and building new ones. The new construction on Air Force bases would sicken most people. Meanwhile, I am now working on a Marine Corps Base again, where the General's HQ Building was built probably before Hoover was President, and the building I work is considered fancy because it was built in 1996. The fanciest building of all on the base is... you guessed it... the Navy Hospital.

Its the AirForce, they get any and everything they want.

BTW, the Blackhawk and Apache have proved their worth

[houndawg]

The Marine Corps, save for being partner to this Joint Strike Fighter debacle, should be a model for how the military can operate on a leaner budget. I'm not going to rehash everything that has been discussed in other threads ad nauseum, but the Marine Corps gets by just fine on Cobras when the Army "needed" Apaches. The Marine Corps gets by just fine with Hueys still where the Army "needed" Blackhawks.

When Marines travel, they look for the cheapest government or otherwise available lodging and stay there. Conversely, when I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, Air Force personnel routinely got waivers from staying at Camp Pendleton lodging because it was "subpar" and they stayed at hotels off base for double or triple the price.

When I was a Marine, we lived in barracks and ate in mess halls that were sometimes 50+ years old. I got out and went to work as a civilian in construction contracting on an Air Force Base and I see the Air Force tearing down barracks that were twenty years old and building new ones (for the limited number of Airmen who even live on base - most draw BAH and go off base). The new construction on Air Force bases would sicken most people. Meanwhile, I am now working on a Marine Corps Base again, where the General's HQ Building was built probably before Hoover was President, and the building I work is considered fancy because it was built in 1996. The fanciest building of all on the base is... you guessed it... the Navy Hospital.

If our military were a defensive force we wouldn't even need the Marine Corps. There really isn't much these days that they're useful for. Dump the marines and use the money for special ops forces and we'd save a lot of money.

[93henfan]

If our military were a defensive force we wouldn't even need the Marine Corps. There really isn't much these days that they're useful for. Dump the marines and use the money for special ops forces and we'd save a lot of money.

There really isn't much these days the USMC is useful for?

Oh, and pssst. What do you think the "SO" stands for in MSOT and MEU(SOC)?

Stick to what you know about.

[dbackjon]

To what end? It isn't like there is anybody who has the capability to invade us

I'm sure you would just love for the US to completely do away with the military and let China become the world's military force. There doesn't need to be an immediate threat of invasion. Having the military we do is deterrent enough.

But I suppose your Progressive train of thought would believe that just sitting around holding hands and asking 'bad guys' not to harm us will do the trick....

LOL - one can be patriotic, pro-American and not see the need for an excessive military.

In fact, houndawg's position IS the patriotic position in line with the founding fathers.

Why do you hate America?

[D1B]

Typical christian nation - dumb and violent.

[93henfan]

I'm sure you would just love for the US to completely do away with the military and let China become the world's military force. There doesn't need to be an immediate threat of invasion. Having the military we do is deterrent enough.

But I suppose your Progressive train of thought would believe that just sitting around holding hands and asking 'bad guys' not to harm us will do the trick....

LOL - one can be patriotic, pro-American and not see the need for an excessive military.

In fact, houndawg's position IS the patriotic position in line with the founding fathers.

Why do you hate America?

That's odd. I do believe the Founding Fathers assembled a Continental Army, Navy, and Marine Corps to conduct an insurgency, did they not?

[dbackjon]

LOL - one can be patriotic, pro-American and not see the need for an excessive military.

In fact, houndawg's position IS the patriotic position in line with the founding fathers.

Why do you hate America?

That's odd. I do believe the Founding Fathers assembled a Continental Army, Navy, and Marine Corps to conduct an insurgency, did they not?

Yes they did. Did I call for eliminating any of these? They were against foreign entanglements. Would certainly have been against the world's largest military.


Just that you get people that the minute you propose trimming ANYTHING from the military, they act like it is the end of the world, when they are the only branch that has had a blank check for 60+ years.

[93henfan]

Just that you get people that the minute you propose trimming ANYTHING from the military, they act like it is the end of the world, when they are the only branch that has had a blank check for 60+ years.

You do realize that DoD has been getting hacked and slashed for the past 25 years, no? I have no problem with smart reduction, but most of that was accomplished in the first several rounds of BRAC. Your 60 year comment is ludicrous.

Every knee jerk comment you make about a military blank check can be turned right around on entitlements. What nobody considers when pounding their fists like a child is the value that both provide.

[Chizzang]

I'm just trying to imagine all the people who would (all of a sudden) have to get real jobs...


The real world out there

[93henfan]

I'm just trying to imagine all the people who would (all of a sudden) have to get real jobs...


The real world out there

Another dipshit liberal with nothing but stereotypical, mindless blather.

Let me ask, what is your real job?

[Chizzang]

I'm just trying to imagine all the people who would (all of a sudden) have to get real jobs...


The real world out there

Another dipshit liberal with nothing but stereotypical, mindless blather.

Let me ask, what is your real job?

1) I actually have to produce a product (seriously imagine that)
2) That in turn has to function to posted specification levels (Again, I'm not kidding)
3) And ultimately land within budget (I know that seems ridiculous doesn't it)



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[AZGrizFan]

The Marine Corps, save for being partner to this Joint Strike Fighter debacle, should be a model for how the military can operate on a leaner budget. I'm not going to rehash everything that has been discussed in other threads ad nauseum, but the Marine Corps gets by just fine on Cobras when the Army "needed" Apaches. The Marine Corps gets by just fine with Hueys still where the Army "needed" Blackhawks.

When Marines travel, they look for the cheapest government or otherwise available lodging and stay there. Conversely, when I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, Air Force personnel routinely got waivers from staying at Camp Pendleton lodging because it was "subpar" and they stayed at hotels off base for double or triple the price.

When I was a Marine, we lived in barracks and ate in mess halls that were sometimes 50+ years old. I got out and went to work as a civilian in construction contracting on an Air Force Base and I see the Air Force tearing down barracks that were twenty years old and building new ones (for the limited number of Airmen who even live on base - most draw BAH and go off base). The new construction on Air Force bases would sicken most people. Meanwhile, I am now working on a Marine Corps Base again, where the General's HQ Building was built probably before Hoover was President, and the building I work is considered fancy because it was built in 1996. The fanciest building of all on the base is... you guessed it... the Navy Hospital.

If our military were a defensive force we wouldn't even need the Marine Corps. There really isn't much these days that they're useful for. Dump the marines and use the money for special ops forces and we'd save a lot of money.

Houndawg has gone full retard.

[D1B]

If our military were a defensive force we wouldn't even need the Marine Corps. There really isn't much these days that they're useful for. Dump the marines and use the money for special ops forces and we'd save a lot of money.

Houndawg has gone full retard.

Don't worry, your old job of peeling carrots is safe. We'll always need those morons in the military.

[dbackjon]

Just that you get people that the minute you propose trimming ANYTHING from the military, they act like it is the end of the world, when they are the only branch that has had a blank check for 60+ years.

You do realize that DoD has been getting hacked and slashed for the past 25 years, no? I have no problem with smart reduction, but most of that was accomplished in the first several rounds of BRAC. Your 60 year comment is ludicrous.

Every knee jerk comment you make about a military blank check can be turned right around on entitlements. What nobody considers when pounding their fists like a child is the value that both provide.

yeah, this really looks like hacked and slashed




Social Security - we pay for it. It has a surplus, and can be solvent for the next 100 years with a couple easy and simple fixes.

Medicare/Medicaid - 60% of the program is self-funded (ie premiums on plans, medicare taxes, etc. So $200 billion comes from general revenue, which is less than the cost of one year of Iraq did.

[AZGrizFan]

Houndawg has gone full retard.

Don't worry, your old job of peeling carrots is safe. We'll always need those morons in the military.

That shit only happens to the grunts in the Army. They peel the Navy's potatoes too....they're THAT stupid.

[AZGrizFan]

You do realize that DoD has been getting hacked and slashed for the past 25 years, no? I have no problem with smart reduction, but most of that was accomplished in the first several rounds of BRAC. Your 60 year comment is ludicrous.

Every knee jerk comment you make about a military blank check can be turned right around on entitlements. What nobody considers when pounding their fists like a child is the value that both provide.

yeah, this really looks like hacked and slashed




Social Security - we pay for it. It has a surplus, and can be solvent for the next 100 years with a couple easy and simple fixes.

Medicare/Medicaid - 60% of the program is self-funded (ie premiums on plans, medicare taxes, etc. So $200 billion comes from general revenue, which is less than the cost of one year of Iraq did.

What I see is about a 10% real growth since 1952 (in 2013 dollars). Not bad. Wonder what the same chart looks like for SS and other entitlement programs?

[93henfan]

Social Security - we pay for it. It has a surplus, and can be solvent for the next 100 years with a couple easy and simple fixes.

Medicare/Medicaid - 60% of the program is self-funded (ie premiums on plans, medicare taxes, etc. So $200 billion comes from general revenue, which is less than the cost of one year of Iraq did.

Wow. You really need to brush up on Soc Security. The SS Trust, as your bud Houndawg has attested, has been pilfered mercilessly and given placeholder IOUs payable in... special issue, non-publically traded government bonds. From a government that is $17T in the hole.

It's a shell game, and the only way to ever start making a dent in the missing shells is to do your favorite thing... raise taxes.