New Penn State HC Greg Schiano

[93henfan]

I wonder if Keeler is a candidate?

Were you able to keep the milk from shooting through your nose when you typed that, because I couldn't when I read it?

[clenz]

I'll see if I can find the actual quote but on TV a quote of his was read from a conversation last month...about dealing with PSU fans.

He basically said he was sick of PSU fans and that their infatuation with Paterno, and doing things the way he did, was driving him nuts. He won his first two years and no longer gave a damn about what PSU fans thought of him

[clenz]

Found it...


“You can print this: You can print that I don’t really give a —- what the ‘Paterno people’ think about what I do with this program,” he said. “I’ve done everything I can to show respect to Coach Paterno. Everything in my power. So I could really care less about what the Paterno faction of people, or whatever you call them, think about what I do with the program. I’m tired of it.

“For any ‘Paterno person’ to have any objection to what I’m doing, it makes me wanna put my fist through this windshield right now. . . .

“I’m trying to field the most competitive football team I can with near-death penalty —-ing sanctions. Every time I say something like that and somebody prints it, it’s skewed as an excuse. And I’m not an excuse-maker. I’m trying to do the best I can for the kids in that program. That’s all I care about is the kids in that program. As long as I’m the head football coach here.”


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That's pretty damming for any coach to hear wanting to step into Penn State. O'Brien basically said that PSU fans will never accept anyone other than Paterno no matter what happens, and if the "new" coach doesn't do things the way Paterno would have he will never have the support of PSU.

The comments are pretty interesting as well. The PSU fans are saying that "He knew what he was in for and he is a pussy who can't handle it" and then there is the rest of the world that is able to avoid guzzling PSU cock is calling it like it is.

My favorite comment comes from a guy saying what O'Brien said in a lot less kosher way.

"Joe Paterno could of burned down an orphanage full of blind kids who,were molested by Sandusky and PSU fans would blame the kids for not getting out of the building"

[93henfan]

Found it...


“You can print this: You can print that I don’t really give a —- what the ‘Paterno people’ think about what I do with this program,” he said. “I’ve done everything I can to show respect to Coach Paterno. Everything in my power. So I could really care less about what the Paterno faction of people, or whatever you call them, think about what I do with the program. I’m tired of it.

“For any ‘Paterno person’ to have any objection to what I’m doing, it makes me wanna put my fist through this windshield right now. . . .

“I’m trying to field the most competitive football team I can with near-death penalty —-ing sanctions. Every time I say something like that and somebody prints it, it’s skewed as an excuse. And I’m not an excuse-maker. I’m trying to do the best I can for the kids in that program. That’s all I care about is the kids in that program. As long as I’m the head football coach here.”


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That's pretty damming for any coach to hear wanting to step into Penn State. O'Brien basically said that PSU fans will never accept anyone other than Paterno no matter what happens, and if the "new" coach doesn't do things the way Paterno would have he will never have the support of PSU.

The comments are pretty interesting as well. The PSU fans are saying that "He knew what he was in for and he is a pussy who can't handle it" and then there is the rest of the world that is able to avoid guzzling PSU cock is calling it like it is.

My favorite comment comes from a guy saying what O'Brien said in a lot less kosher way.

"Joe Paterno could of burned down an orphanage full of blind kids who,were molested by Sandusky and PSU fans would blame the kids for not getting out of the building"

Welcome to big-time college football. The people in State College out there in the middle of Pennsyltucky have nothing else to do.

[BlueHen86]

It just bothers the hell out of people that Penn State has shown a measure of success under O'Brien instead of falling off the face of the earth. Whomever comes in after O'Brien will be able to continue building on the foundation he set. Schiano is getting a terrible rep because of what happened in TB, some coaches are just simply better in college than they are in the NFL, that doesn't make them terrible coaches. It would be a great hire for Penn State.

I wonder if Keeler is a candidate?

10 years too late. He might have been a candidate had all the Penn St. stuff happened a decade earlier.

[GannonFan]

Whether it's concerning sports or politics is there anyone on this board wrong more often than CitadelGrad?

Why did O'Brien leave? It's common knowledge:

1- He prefers the pro game.
2- The sanctions he walked into were worse than he imagined.
3- Dealing with the Paterno fan faction
4- PSU in transition with AD and Presidents lame ducks

Etc, etc, etc

I'd put very high on the list, and possibly #1, the reason to leave being that Houston is far better than a 3 win team (they vastly underachieved this year). They have the top pick in the draft, they need a QB, they will draft Teddy Bridgewater, and with that defense and a credible QB they should be a playoff team again next year. It's by far the best open job in the NFL so you don't get a chance like that too often when you can walk into the NFL and win right away. He'd never get such a great opportunity again.

[BlueHen86]

Whether it's concerning sports or politics is there anyone on this board wrong more often than CitadelGrad?

Why did O'Brien leave? It's common knowledge:

1- He prefers the pro game.
2- The sanctions he walked into were worse than he imagined.
3- Dealing with the Paterno fan faction
4- PSU in transition with AD and Presidents lame ducks

Etc, etc, etc

I'd put very high on the list, and possibly #1, the reason to leave being that Houston is far better than a 3 win team (they vastly underachieved this year). They have the top pick in the draft, they need a QB, they will draft Teddy Bridgewater, and with that defense and a credible QB they should be a playoff team again next year. It's by far the best open job in the NFL so you don't get a chance like that too often when you can walk into the NFL and win right away. He'd never get such a great opportunity again.

I agree. I'm sure that the Paterno people were annoying, but Houston will pay well and O'Brien has a chance to win in the NFL right away.

[SuperHornet]

If I'm drafting a quarterback right now, I'm drafting Adams....

[Vidav]

If I'm drafting a quarterback right now, I'm drafting Adams....

No one cares about your thoughts on this because you are very delusional when it comes to quality players.

[clenz]

If I'm drafting a quarterback right now, I'm drafting Adams....

No one cares about your thoughts on anything.

fify

[BlueHen86]

If I'm drafting a quarterback right now, I'm drafting Adams....

Well you're not. And with good reason.

[Grizalltheway]

No one cares about your thoughts on anything.

fify

Hey now. We'd all be in the dark on the latest Sirens gossip if not for they.

[Franks Tanks]

I'd put very high on the list, and possibly #1, the reason to leave being that Houston is far better than a 3 win team (they vastly underachieved this year). They have the top pick in the draft, they need a QB, they will draft Teddy Bridgewater, and with that defense and a credible QB they should be a playoff team again next year. It's by far the best open job in the NFL so you don't get a chance like that too often when you can walk into the NFL and win right away. He'd never get such a great opportunity again.

I agree. I'm sure that the Paterno people were annoying, but Houston will pay well and O'Brien has a chance to win in the NFL right away.

Pretty good assesment, but his reason to leave was by far and away the fact that he wanted to be an NFL head coach. Obviously the sanctions were a factor.

The "paterno faction" is an excuse by O'Brien to shift the blame, and the narrative. He told players he was not leaving a few days ago. He needed another Paterno story to be the narative, not how he lied to recruits and players and left.

I go to Penn State games, and live among many PSU fans. 99.9% of PSU fans supported O'Brien. Sure some longed for some of the things that Joe did, but this story posted above was a blatent attempt for BOB to shift the story to Paterno.

[Franks Tanks]

Found it...


“You can print this: You can print that I don’t really give a —- what the ‘Paterno people’ think about what I do with this program,” he said. “I’ve done everything I can to show respect to Coach Paterno. Everything in my power. So I could really care less about what the Paterno faction of people, or whatever you call them, think about what I do with the program. I’m tired of it.

“For any ‘Paterno person’ to have any objection to what I’m doing, it makes me wanna put my fist through this windshield right now. . . .

“I’m trying to field the most competitive football team I can with near-death penalty —-ing sanctions. Every time I say something like that and somebody prints it, it’s skewed as an excuse. And I’m not an excuse-maker. I’m trying to do the best I can for the kids in that program. That’s all I care about is the kids in that program. As long as I’m the head football coach here.”


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That's pretty damming for any coach to hear wanting to step into Penn State. O'Brien basically said that PSU fans will never accept anyone other than Paterno no matter what happens, and if the "new" coach doesn't do things the way Paterno would have he will never have the support of PSU.

The comments are pretty interesting as well. The PSU fans are saying that "He knew what he was in for and he is a pussy who can't handle it" and then there is the rest of the world that is able to avoid guzzling PSU cock is calling it like it is.

My favorite comment comes from a guy saying what O'Brien said in a lot less kosher way.

"Joe Paterno could of burned down an orphanage full of blind kids who,were molested by Sandusky and PSU fans would blame the kids for not getting out of the building"

As usual you have no clue. PSU fans supported O'Brien fully. Sure some longed for the days of Paterno, but I don't see how that interfered with O'Brien's ability to coach, recruit or fund raise. Most of the vitrol comes from that fact that BON said he would be here for the kids he recruited and left. It's fine. It is the business of coaching.

[bluehenbillk]

Not going to be a fun situation for the new HC at Penn State. First he'll have to try to hold the recruiting class together, there will be some defectors there. Second, he'll have to replace their best offensive threat in WR Allen Robinson who declared early for the draft today, and 3rd he'll have to deal with what sounds like overly involved parents in Mr. Hackenberg (reminds me of Eric Lindros' parents).

And they still can't play in a bowl game for two more seasons (PSU fans holding out hope it'll get reduced to one).

[Franks Tanks]

Not going to be a fun situation for the new HC at Penn State. First he'll have to try to hold the recruiting class together, there will be some defectors there. Second, he'll have to replace their best offensive threat in WR Allen Robinson who declared early for the draft today, and 3rd he'll have to deal with what sounds like overly involved parents in Mr. Hackenberg (reminds me of Eric Lindros' parents).

And they still can't play in a bowl game for two more seasons (PSU fans holding out hope it'll get reduced to one).

Other than the sanctions, all very normal issues for a new coach walking into a program. By all accounts the job will be more atractive to top coaches than it was two years ago

[GannonFan]

Not going to be a fun situation for the new HC at Penn State. First he'll have to try to hold the recruiting class together, there will be some defectors there. Second, he'll have to replace their best offensive threat in WR Allen Robinson who declared early for the draft today, and 3rd he'll have to deal with what sounds like overly involved parents in Mr. Hackenberg (reminds me of Eric Lindros' parents).

And they still can't play in a bowl game for two more seasons (PSU fans holding out hope it'll get reduced to one).

Other than the sanctions, all very normal issues for a new coach walking into a program. By all accounts the job will be more atractive to top coaches than it was two years ago

I agree, the bowl ban is the only thing that's not typical. Kids always leave early, kids today have lots of parent issues, so those aren't big deals. And I agree, it is better to be a coach there now than two years ago. Now you aren't the coach who is replacing Paterno, now you're stepping into a job where the guy before you was proabably the top attractive college coach to get a pro job. And it's still a Big 10 job and a place you can win at.

[dbackjon]

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LOL.

Joe-bots like CitadelGrad are the problem with PSU. He still thinks St. Joe did nothing wrong.

[BlueHen86]

Other than the sanctions, all very normal issues for a new coach walking into a program. By all accounts the job will be more atractive to top coaches than it was two years ago

I agree, the bowl ban is the only thing that's not typical. Kids always leave early, kids today have lots of parent issues, so those aren't big deals. And I agree, it is better to be a coach there now than two years ago. Now you aren't the coach who is replacing Paterno, now you're stepping into a job where the guy before you was proabably the top attractive college coach to get a pro job. And it's still a Big 10 job and a place you can win at.

And you are two years closer to the end of penalties. The light at the end of the tunnel is a lot brighter now than it was two years ago.

[Willie]

Can't read, can't write, Penn State.

[CitadelGrad]

LOL.

Joe-bots like CitadelGrad are the problem with PSU. He still thinks St. Joe did nothing wrong.

Joe didn't do anything wrong according to the PA AG, the guy who prosecuted and the head of the PA State Police. You have absolutely no evidence to refute their statements.

Anyway, getting back to O'Brien's departure, I finally found a couple of guys who were willing to talk. O'Brien presented a list of demands to Penn State and all of them were granted. O'Brien then tried to push the envelope to far. He went to Terry Pegula to seek his support in getting Dave Joyner (Penn State's AD) forced out. Apparently that was a bridge to far and O'Brien was told that if he could make a deal with an NFL team, he should do so.

The narrative that O'Brien is promoting about the Paterno faction making his life too difficult is bullshit. O'Brien had almost unanimous support from the fan base. He skillfully used dumbass Steve Jones to get his narrative out in preparation for his departure.

[93henfan]

The narrative that O'Brien is promoting about the Paterno faction making his life too difficult is bullshit. O'Brien had almost unanimous support from the fan base. He skillfully used dumbass Steve Jones to get his narrative out in preparation for his departure.

I have heard that from several sources as well and believe it.

[CitadelGrad]

The narrative that O'Brien is promoting about the Paterno faction making his life too difficult is bullshit. O'Brien had almost unanimous support from the fan base. He skillfully used dumbass Steve Jones to get his narrative out in preparation for his departure.

I have heard that from several sources as well and believe it.

What do you believe? Do you believe O'Brien's "Paterno faction" bullshit or that Steve Jones is a dumbass for swallowing that bullshit?

[93henfan]

I have heard that from several sources as well and believe it.

What do you believe? Do you believe O'Brien's "Paterno faction" bullshit or that Steve Jones is a dumbass for swallowing that bullshit?

The latter. I think O'Brien was building his escape story.

[bluehenbillk]

BOB is gone now - time to move on to the next HC at PSU.