Would Montana Be Out If...

[EWURanger]

Nope. MSU will most likely get rocked this weekend and miss out on the playoffs.

EWU, UM, NAU, SUU.

This. See you guys in Cheney.

[Gil Dobie]

Even though Montana does not have a signature win, 9 wins gets them in.

[EWURanger]

Nope. MSU will most likely get rocked this weekend and miss out on the playoffs.

EWU, UM, NAU, SUU.

This. See you guys in Cheney.

In all seriousness, I am guessing that NAU will come to Cheney, and Montana probably goes to NDSU.

[Grizalltheway]

This. See you guys in Cheney.

In all seriousness, I am guessing that NAU will come to Cheney, and Montana probably goes to NDSU.

Certainly possible, I guess it just depends on how the bracket shakes out and what kind of seed we get (if we get one at all).

[TribePride]

I don't see any scenario where Montana fails to get in. The bubble is too weak this year. You have many teams talking about getting in at 7-5 or 7-4. I think there are about 20 teams battling for the last 10 spots. Montana is one of the 3 locks for at large. There are 4 more that are virtual locks and then 16 teams battling for the final 6 spots. Southern Utah, Montana State, New Hampshire, William & Mary, Samford, Sam Houston State and Delaware are just a few of those teams. Will try to find the full bubble list and post it. The mess in the Southern and the Patriot League could strink the list.

[mtgrizfankb]

This. See you guys in Cheney.

In all seriousness, I am guessing that NAU will come to Cheney, and Montana probably goes to NDSU.

Well when we beat msu. We will be seeded . Seeds of one side. ndsu ewu um Mcneese. In that order

[SUUTbird]

SUU lost to UC Davis.

MSU lost to SFA.

Montana would have no bad losses.

But the Griz would also have no wins over any opponents of merit which if they do lose to the Cats (it is a rivalry game so anything can happen) could affect the outcome

[JohnStOnge]

They lose to the cats and SUU beats NAU?

It would be tough to justify 5 bids from the Big Fluffy, they would have the weakest resume with no marquee wins, and lost the head to head to NAU and MSU.

Hard to imagine a 9-3 Montana being denied for the likes of a 9-3 TSU but it could happen.

Discuss....

I think Montana's in and it's just a question of whether or not they can get a top 8 seed but we need to know how that SRS thing is looking to get a better feel.

[uofmman1122]

SUU lost to UC Davis.

MSU lost to SFA.

Montana would have no bad losses.

But the Griz would also have no wins over any opponents of merit which if they do lose to the Cats (it is a rivalry game so anything can happen) could affect the outcome

It doesn't matter. If you think playoff history and $$$ isn't going to get us in even if we lose, you're nuts.

9-3 Montana never stays home. Period.

[EWURanger]

In all seriousness, I am guessing that NAU will come to Cheney, and Montana probably goes to NDSU.

Well when we beat msu. We will be seeded . Seeds of one side. ndsu ewu um Mcneese. In that order

Well, I am thinking (hoping) that EWU will nab the #3 seed. That would put us in EIU's bracket. That's the way I see it. A potential re-match between the 2-time defending champ and the team that won it before them, who incidentally knocked them out of the playoffs the same year. Both have big wins over FBS schools this year, etc. etc. They will place NDSU and Eastern in opposite brackets.

[BlackFalkin]

Nope. MSU will most likely get rocked this weekend and miss out on the playoffs.

EWU, UM, NAU, SUU.

This. See you guys in Cheney.

screw you bro. Ur not getting a rematch. Settle down junior and pray u win that opening round game. No conference mates should play each other till the semis anyway.

[Grizalltheway]

This. See you guys in Cheney.

screw you bro. Ur not getting a rematch. Settle down junior and pray u win that opening round game. No conference mates should play each other till the semis anyway.

Scared? Can't say I blame you.

[BlackFalkin]

Can't say I'm scared. Just would rather play some other conferences playoff representative. If EWU spanked um in Missoula, they'll dismantle them in Cheney on that blazin inferno.

[Mvemjsunpx]

MSU may not get in even if they beat the Griz. They wouldn't exactly have the strongest 8-4 resume (same for SUU if they lose to NAU). The only things that could conceivably save them are their grossly inflated poll rankings.

Griz look to be a lock at this point. NAU should be as well.

kalm brought up Tennessee State, which is an interesting case. I think the Tigers will be in at 9-3 (though certainly not a lock) and it's worth noting that the OVC actually ranks higher than the Big Sky in the Sagarins.

[WyomingGrizFan]

No conference mates should play each other till the semis anyway.

If only. After the First Round Play-ins, etc., I don't think the regional matchups that the NCAA Selection Committee grovels upon will be overlooked anytime soon. Conference members meeting each other starting in the Second Round might just become a norm, as it's happened in the past, regrettably.

[kalm]

MSU may not get in even if they beat the Griz. They wouldn't exactly have the strongest 8-4 resume (same for SUU if they lose to NAU). The only things that could conceivably save them are their grossly inflated poll rankings.

Griz look to be a lock at this point. NAU should be as well.

kalm brought up Tennessee State, which is an interesting case. I think the Tigers will be in at 9-3 (though certainly not a lock) and it's worth noting that the OVC actually ranks higher than the Big Sky in the Sagarins.

I agree. TSU's best win is against a #4 OVC Jacksonville State. But yes, the computers don't like the BSC this season. Like I mentioned on Bigskyfans, this must to be due to the same old circumstances of many BSC teams scheduling 2 FBS and a DII OOC and then beating up each other in the 3rd or 4th OOC game. Because if you look at the OVC sans EIU they have very few quality wins outside of their own conference, and tend to play weaker schedules than BSC teams.

Christ, even the Ivy is rated above the BSC in Sagarin.

[Mvemjsunpx]

MSU may not get in even if they beat the Griz. They wouldn't exactly have the strongest 8-4 resume (same for SUU if they lose to NAU). The only things that could conceivably save them are their grossly inflated poll rankings.

Griz look to be a lock at this point. NAU should be as well.

kalm brought up Tennessee State, which is an interesting case. I think the Tigers will be in at 9-3 (though certainly not a lock) and it's worth noting that the OVC actually ranks higher than the Big Sky in the Sagarins.

I agree. TSU's best win is against a #4 OVC Jacksonville State. But yes, the computers don't like the BSC this season. Like I mentioned on Bigskyfans, this must to be due to the same old circumstances of many BSC teams scheduling 2 FBS and a DII OOC and then beating up each other in the 3rd or 4th OOC game. Because if you look at the OVC sans EIU they have very few quality wins outside of their own conference, and tend to play weaker schedules than BSC teams.

Christ, even the Ivy is rated above the BSC in Sagarin.

Well… when supposed Big Sky contenders lose to teams like Yale & Stephen F. Austin, this type of thing isn't as shocking.

[BlackFalkin]

MSU may not get in even if they beat the Griz. They wouldn't exactly have the strongest 8-4 resume (same for SUU if they lose to NAU). The only things that could conceivably save them are their grossly inflated poll rankings.

Griz look to be a lock at this point. NAU should be as well.

kalm brought up Tennessee State, which is an interesting case. I think the Tigers will be in at 9-3 (though certainly not a lock) and it's worth noting that the OVC actually ranks higher than the Big Sky in the Sagarins.

I agree. TSU's best win is against a #4 OVC Jacksonville State. But yes, the computers don't like the BSC this season. Like I mentioned on Bigskyfans, this must to be due to the same old circumstances of many BSC teams scheduling 2 FBS and a DII OOC and then beating up each other in the 3rd or 4th OOC game. Because if you look at the OVC sans EIU they have very few quality wins outside of their own conference, and tend to play weaker schedules than BSC teams.

Christ, even the Ivy is rated above the BSC in Sagarin.

They justify fxckin the sky bc of the sagarin ratings. But let's look at the sky.

Weber state - 1 win
Idaho state - 3? Wins
Nor col - 1? Win
North Dakota 3? Wins

Don't let those teams fool you guys relying on the sagarin ratings montana and eastern will kick the shit out of most of those teams in "higher sagarin rated" conferences.

[Mvemjsunpx]

They justify fxckin the sky bc of the sagarin ratings. But let's look at the sky.

Weber state - 1 win
Idaho state - 3? Wins
Nor col - 1? Win
North Dakota 3? Wins

Don't let those teams fool you guys relying on the sagarin ratings montana and eastern will kick the shit out of most of those teams in "higher sagarin rated" conferences.

Well, yeah, but the OVC has teams like Austin Peay & SEMO while the Ivy has Columbia. Pretty much every conference always has crap.

[BlackFalkin]

They justify fxckin the sky bc of the sagarin ratings. But let's look at the sky.

Weber state - 1 win
Idaho state - 3? Wins
Nor col - 1? Win
North Dakota 3? Wins

Don't let those teams fool you guys relying on the sagarin ratings montana and eastern will kick the shit out of most of those teams in "higher sagarin rated" conferences.

Well, yeah, but the OVC has teams like Austin Peay & SEMO while the Ivy has Columbia. Pretty much every conference always has crap.

Ok THE BI SKY HAS 13 teams! 5 are garbage. That makes the conference look weak. Semo was in the playoffs a couple years ago on the inferno. They suck this year. Idaho state and not col and North Dakota and Sacramento state won't see the playoffs for 15 years at best bro beans! On top of that.. Most those teams are guaranteed 5 conf losses per year making them look mediocre even on a good year. The sky is strong EVERY YEAR.

[EWURanger]

I agree. TSU's best win is against a #4 OVC Jacksonville State. But yes, the computers don't like the BSC this season. Like I mentioned on Bigskyfans, this must to be due to the same old circumstances of many BSC teams scheduling 2 FBS and a DII OOC and then beating up each other in the 3rd or 4th OOC game. Because if you look at the OVC sans EIU they have very few quality wins outside of their own conference, and tend to play weaker schedules than BSC teams.

Christ, even the Ivy is rated above the BSC in Sagarin.

Well… when supposed Big Sky contenders lose to teams like Yale & Stephen F. Austin, this type of thing isn't as shocking.

The Sky has 4 decent teams this year, so I don't think it's too different than any other year in that regard. The problem is that the two teams that should have rounded out the top 5-6 teams in the conference (MSU and Cal Poly) turned out to be not very good. Cal poly is actually a lot better than their record indicates, but will still most likely finish at only 6-6.

That said, if anyone really believes that the Sky is the 5th best conference in the FCS, they are outta their minds. UNC, ISU, UND, and Weber State are dragging the relative strength of the conference waaaaaay down, but I'd put our top 3 or 4 up against any other conference in the FCS.


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[BlackFalkin]

Well… when supposed Big Sky contenders lose to teams like Yale & Stephen F. Austin, this type of thing isn't as shocking.

The Sky has 4 decent teams this year, so I don't think it's too different than any other year in that regard. The problem is that the two teams that should have rounded out the top 5-6 teams in the conference (MSU and Cal Poly) turned out to be not very good. Cal poly is actually a lot better than their record indicates, but will still most likely finish at only 6-6.

That said, if anyone really believes that the Sky is the 5th best conference in the FCS, they are outta their minds. UNC, ISU, UND, and Weber State are dragging the relative strength of the conference waaaaaay down, but I'd put our top 3 or 4 up against any other conference in the FCS.


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Well said.

[Aho Old Guy]

They lose to the cats and SUU beats NAU?

It would be tough to justify 5 bids from the Big Fluffy, they would have the weakest resume with no marquee wins, and lost the head to head to NAU and MSU.

Hard to imagine a 9-3 Montana being denied for the likes of a 9-3 TSU but it could happen.

Discuss....

Tennessee State with not go in over Montana. Period.

I guess it's possible for Montana (without beating the Cats) to be left out but highly improbable -- and I think MSU has to win to make the show.

Folks can argue about the 'lack of a signature win' or a DII game but I don't think it gets any traction -- the issue is will there be 4 or 5 from the Big Sky, and how the Committee looks at some of the flawed 'Kings of the Hobos' (like Tenn State among others) with 9 or 10 wins.

[rationalgriz]

If Montana loses and Southern Utah wins, it could set up a first round match-up between the two.

[Brock Landers]

They lose to the cats and SUU beats NAU?

It would be tough to justify 5 bids from the Big Fluffy, they would have the weakest resume with no marquee wins, and lost the head to head to NAU and MSU.

Hard to imagine a 9-3 Montana being denied for the likes of a 9-3 TSU but it could happen.

Discuss....

Tennessee State with not go in over Montana. Period.

I guess it's possible for Montana (without beating the Cats) to be left out but highly improbable -- and I think MSU has to win to make the show.

Folks can argue about the 'lack of a signature win' or a DII game but I don't think it gets any traction -- the issue is will there be 4 or 5 from the Big Sky, and how the Committee looks at some of the flawed 'Kings of the Hobos' (like Tenn State among others) with 9 or 10 wins.

The difference is the field of 24. There's so many teams making the playoffs now, and so many teams struggling to get those 8 or 9th wins that it's pretty much defaulted us into the playoffs.