Abortion?

[kalm]

I've been there but you know what? I know my wife wasn't a virgin when we met. She knows I wasn't a virgin. We are mature adults who love and respect each other, who enjoy our life an there isn't ever a reason to discuss the past.

What Ibanez said. Something like 95% of Americans aren't virgins before marriage and honestly, I would neither expect nor care if my future partner is one.

Oh for god's sake, I can't believe this is even worthy of discussion. It's 2013 and this ain't rural Pakistan. It's just s.e.x. God made men AND women capable AND driven toward fucking around age 12. It's natural to have sex before you get married and there's abosolutely nothing defiling or wrong with it. You can "give yourself totally" outside of marriage. Other than psychoCAT and other Taliban/Westboro Baptist wannabes WGAF?

[psychoCAT]

What Ibanez said. Something like 95% of Americans aren't virgins before marriage and honestly, I would neither expect nor care if my future partner is one.

Oh for god's sake, I can't believe this is even worthy of discussion. It's 2013 and this ain't rural Pakistan. It's just s.e.x. God made men AND women capable AND driven toward **** around age 12. It's natural to have sex before you get married and there's abosolutely nothing defiling or wrong with it. You can "give yourself totally" outside of marriage. Other than psychoCAT and other Taliban/Westboro Baptist wannabes WGAF?

I'm glad you are of a different opinion. Seriously. I feel a whole lot better about myself.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...will inherit the kingdom of God.

I Corinthians 6:9-10

[SuperHornet]

Gotta be careful using the KJV around here, CAT. These youngsters might not understand it. Middle English is a foreign language to them. Heck, even MODERN English is often a foreign language to youngsters who are fluent in only ONE language: textese!

[Vidav]

Gotta be careful using the KJV around here, CAT. These youngsters might not understand it. Middle English is a foreign language to them. Heck, even MODERN English is often a foreign language to youngsters who are fluent in only ONE language: textese!

Especially when that language is from a book as silly as the bible.

[kalm]

Gotta be careful using the KJV around here, CAT. These youngsters might not understand it. Middle English is a foreign language to them. Heck, even MODERN English is often a foreign language to youngsters who are fluent in only ONE language: textese!

Youngsters? Pretty sure we're close to the same age, SH.

[kalm]

Oh for god's sake, I can't believe this is even worthy of discussion. It's 2013 and this ain't rural Pakistan. It's just s.e.x. God made men AND women capable AND driven toward **** around age 12. It's natural to have sex before you get married and there's abosolutely nothing defiling or wrong with it. You can "give yourself totally" outside of marriage. Other than psychoCAT and other Taliban/Westboro Baptist wannabes WGAF?

I'm glad you are of a different opinion. Seriously. I feel a whole lot better about myself.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...will inherit the kingdom of God.

I Corinthians 6:9-10

Nice passive aggressive way of saying go to hell. Not very christ like...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo[/youtube]

[psychoCAT]

Don't get mad at me, get mad at God. It's HIS word.

[kalm]

Don't get mad at me, get mad at God. It's HIS word.

"Dear God, don't know if you noticed but,
your name is on a lot of quotes in this book...
Us crazy humans wrote it you should take a look..."

- Andy Partridge "Dear God"

[psychoCAT]

Tired of fighting. Done with this board and this time I mean it. Vaya con Dios! It has not been fun.

[CID1990]

Tired of fighting. Done with this board and this time I mean it. Vaya con Dios! It has not been fun.

See you in a week

[SuperHornet]

You're welcome to your opinion, V. That doesn't make it right, but you're welcome to it.

[Ibanez]

Oh for god's sake, I can't believe this is even worthy of discussion. It's 2013 and this ain't rural Pakistan. It's just s.e.x. God made men AND women capable AND driven toward **** around age 12. It's natural to have sex before you get married and there's abosolutely nothing defiling or wrong with it. You can "give yourself totally" outside of marriage. Other than psychoCAT and other Taliban/Westboro Baptist wannabes WGAF?

I'm glad you are of a different opinion. Seriously. I feel a whole lot better about myself.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...will inherit the kingdom of God.

I Corinthians 6:9-10

Really? You want to justify your idea witha reference from that book of fairy tales?

Andy, SCBH, you guys can sell your daughters into slavery. The Bible sanctions it.

Exodus 21:7
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."

Lets start executing all ministers who are at work on Sunday and in direct violation of

Exodus 35:2
"On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."

Better not play football or eat pork. It's a sin.

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Leviticus 11
7and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you. 8Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."

Don't forget that we must kill farmers for planting two crops near each other and all of us deserve death for wearing garments of multiple fabrics.

The ideas of the bible are as oudated as the 8-Track. You can't pick and choose the portions about fornication and gays and ignore the rest. Don't be a Cafeteria Christian. Youeither believe EVERYTHING the bible says or you don't. Until then...GFY.

[Ibanez]

You're welcome to your opinion, V. That doesn't make it right, but you're welcome to it.

And you are welcome to your opinion. That doesn't make it right.

The problem with your interpretation is that it is biased and disregards accepted and factually statements on science and moral progress. You preach the Bible and that it's infalliable yet you condemn slavery and murder. The bible outlines when a man should commit these acts. You don't use reason and understanding.

For that matter, for the party of little gov't and wanting gov't out of its business, you Republicans sure want to be in others peoples business.

[kalm]

I'm glad you are of a different opinion. Seriously. I feel a whole lot better about myself.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind...will inherit the kingdom of God.

I Corinthians 6:9-10

Really? You want to justify your idea witha reference from that book of fairy tales?

Andy, SCBH, you guys can sell your daughters into slavery. The Bible sanctions it.

Exodus 21:7
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."

Lets start executing all ministers who are at work on Sunday and in direct violation of

Exodus 35:2
"On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."

Better not play football or eat pork. It's a sin.

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Leviticus 11
7and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you. 8Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."

Don't forget that we must kill farmers for planting two crops near each other and all of us deserve death for wearing garments of multiple fabrics.

The ideas of the bible are as oudated as the 8-Track. You can't pick and choose the portions about fornication and gays and ignore the rest. Don't be a Cafeteria Christian. Youeither believe EVERYTHING the bible says or you don't. Until then...GFY.

Can't he use the New Testament defense? I think much of the crazy stuff is in the old.

[Ibanez]

Really? You want to justify your idea witha reference from that book of fairy tales?

Andy, SCBH, you guys can sell your daughters into slavery. The Bible sanctions it.



Lets start executing all ministers who are at work on Sunday and in direct violation of

Better not play football or eat pork. It's a sin.

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Leviticus 11
7and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you. 8Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."

Don't forget that we must kill farmers for planting two crops near each other and all of us deserve death for wearing garments of multiple fabrics.

The ideas of the bible are as oudated as the 8-Track. You can't pick and choose the portions about fornication and gays and ignore the rest. Don't be a Cafeteria Christian. Youeither believe EVERYTHING the bible says or you don't. Until then...GFY.

Can't he use the New Testament defense? I think much of the crazy stuff is in the old.

No he cannot. The Holy Bible, as Christians believe, is the word of God. Picking one "law" and avoiding the others is a sin. You are consciously disobeying the word of God. You either believe and follow the Bible or you don't.

My quotes are the extremes and serve to make a point. That point is that with the social, moral, scientific and ethical progress of the last 2000 years, many of the rules and sayings are out of date. Obviously we know its silly to kill those that wear a Cotton/Poly Blend and women don't need to wear a head scarf at all times. So why do we still say that two people are wrong for being gay or for having sex before marriage.

[89Hen]

I support a woman's right to make her own decision.

And there's the problem with the debate in a sentence. The two sides can't even argue the same point.

[Ibanez]

I support a woman's right to make her own decision.

And there's the problem with the debate in a sentence. The two sides can't even argue the same point.

I'm clearly pro-choice as in my statement that you have referenced above. A woman should have the choice.

[89Hen]

And there's the problem with the debate in a sentence. The two sides can't even argue the same point.

I'm clearly pro-choice as in my statement that you have referenced above. A woman should have the choice.

So then you should be OK with substituting...

I think chaining your children to a desk in the basement and giving them only bread and water is wrong, but I support a parent's right to make their own decision.

[D1B]

I'm clearly pro-choice as in my statement that you have referenced above. A woman should have the choice.

So then you should be OK with substituting...

I think chaining your fetus to a desk in the basement and giving them only bread and water is wrong, but I support a parent's right to make their own decision.

FIFY

[Ibanez]

I'm clearly pro-choice as in my statement that you have referenced above. A woman should have the choice.

So then you should be OK with substituting...

I think chaining your children to a desk in the basement and giving them only bread and water is wrong, but I support a parent's right to make their own decision.

I support the right for people to make a decisions regarding their lives and especially when it concerns thier reproductive rights. I support your right to free speech. I know what you're trying to do, stick to the point.

[grizzaholic]

So the YES's have won the argument


The NO's can just go Pee in the Butt.

[kalm]

I'm clearly pro-choice as in my statement that you have referenced above. A woman should have the choice.

So then you should be OK with substituting...

I think chaining your children to a desk in the basement and giving them only bread and water is wrong, but I support a parent's right to make their own decision.

So chaining children to a desk in the basement and giving them only bread and water is the same as a woman's right to determine what happens to her body? That's the same point? Nice analogy AZ.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

...is murder. Period.

On a more serious note, since when has Christianity had a problem with murder? Hell, more people have been murdered in the name of "god" through all time than anything else.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Anyone else find it ironic that PsycoCat has provided us with the most compelling case for abortion?

[grizzaholic]

...is murder. Period.

On a more serious note, since when has Christianity had a problem with murder? Hell, more people have been murdered in the name of "god" through all time than anything else.

No one has ever been murdered in the name of GOD...