Presidential Spending facts...

[Chizzang]

I'm no "accountant" nor do I really claim to be...
I'm an Engineer and have my strengths and weaknesses - and I am not afraid to ask a stupid question or reveal my weaknesses, I'm perfectly comfortable with who I am
However: You explanation pleases me and makes sense

You're allowed to ask a stupid question about Photovoltaic power cell devices or wireless digital transmission packeting technologies... and I'll go gently

Well, I'm an engineer too - you didn't have to take a course on project management and the ensuing topics of present value and rates of return? Finance (not to be confused with economics) is sort of important. Just saying.

I suppose...
I've done my share of project management - thanks for the slap
But I've never taken a finance course and the last econ course I took was undergrad circa 1985 (maybe)
and - I understand after your explanation it became fairly obvious - thank you
Prior to your explanation I was confused... (funny how that works)
I'm sorry to have so deeply disappointed you

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Well, I'm an engineer too - you didn't have to take a course on project management and the ensuing topics of present value and rates of return? Finance (not to be confused with economics) is sort of important. Just saying.

I suppose...
I've done my share of project management - thanks for the slap
But I've never taken a finance course and the last econ course I took was undergrad circa 1985 (maybe)
and - I understand after your explanation it became fairly obvious - thank you
Prior to your explanation I was confused... (funny how that works)
I'm sorry to have so deeply disappointed you

Cleets might struggle a little bit with financial data tables, but he sure can Zen the shit out you.

[BDKJMU]

Something does not sound right.
Spending is spending. But at the very least, spending should correlate with revenue. If you are telling me that Obama is spending the same as Bush, then I'm saying that is too much because I am assuming that Obama'a revenue is far less than Bush's. The devil is in the details.

I don't think revenue has gone down, or at least not by much.

Bush's last deficit was $1.4T. The 2012 deficit is $1.27T. A little progress, but not much.

Deficits like that cannot be undone in just a few years without crashing the economy, especially when it comes to spending cuts.

Even Paul Ryan's plan doesn't balance the budget until the 2030s.

Not really true. FY 09 was a shared budget year. Bush was in office for less than 4 months for. BHO was in office for 8+ months of FY 09' Most of the FY 09' discretionary spending didn't get passed till AFTER Bush left office. Sure, Bush gets some of the blame for that yr, but so does Obama.

[Chizzang]

I suppose...
I've done my share of project management - thanks for the slap
But I've never taken a finance course and the last econ course I took was undergrad circa 1985 (maybe)
and - I understand after your explanation it became fairly obvious - thank you
Prior to your explanation I was confused... (funny how that works)
I'm sorry to have so deeply disappointed you

Cleets might struggle a little bit with financial data tables, but he sure can Zen the shit out you.

I'm no financial wizard
Actually I'm a bit of a dunce in that category - mostly probably because I don't really care that much
I'm not going to come right out and say "I don't care about Money" because that's not true
But I don't idolize money
and I see it more as a tool than some kind of end
I repeat:
The unhappiest people I know (and psychological reports align with my findings too) are the elite wealthy
There's a lot that goes into that but suffice to know: Money does not make you happy
In fact all evidence suggests that a shitload of money seems to have the opposite effect

Zen = give it away, it'll set you free (and burden somebody else)

[Ivytalk]

Cleets might struggle a little bit with financial data tables, but he sure can Zen the **** out you.

I'm no financial wizard
Actually I'm a bit of a dunce in that category - mostly probably because I don't really care that much
I'm not going to come right out and say "I don't care about Money" because that's not true
But I don't idolize money
and I see it more as a tool than some kind of end
I repeat:
The unhappiest people I know (and psychological reports align with my findings too) are the elite wealthy
There's a lot that goes into that but suffice to know: Money does not make you happy
In fact all evidence suggests that a shitload of money seems to have the opposite effect

Zen = give it away, it'll set you free (and burden somebody else)

I saw a study once that said the most screwed- up kids were the children of either shrinks or clergy.

[Chizzang]

I'm no financial wizard
Actually I'm a bit of a dunce in that category - mostly probably because I don't really care that much
I'm not going to come right out and say "I don't care about Money" because that's not true
But I don't idolize money
and I see it more as a tool than some kind of end
I repeat:
The unhappiest people I know (and psychological reports align with my findings too) are the elite wealthy
There's a lot that goes into that but suffice to know: Money does not make you happy
In fact all evidence suggests that a shitload of money seems to have the opposite effect

Zen = give it away, it'll set you free (and burden somebody else)

I saw a study once that said the most screwed- up kids were the children of either shrinks or clergy.

I thought actors and famous people had the most screwed up kids...?
So shrinks are mostly nuts though right..? The study of psychology pretty much creates a nutball..? No..?
I guess it's kinda like Cops and Thugs, there's about 6 degrees of separation there too