Jobless App's Fall, GM Hauls In $7.6BB! GOBAMA!!!

[89Hen]

On a totally unrelated note, it looks like my new Jeep may be getting some major engine work soon. Thanks Chrysler.

89Henette swears she wants a Jeep. No way Jose.

[Wedgebuster]

On a totally unrelated note, it looks like my new Jeep may be getting some major engine work soon. Thanks Chrysler.

89Henette swears she wants a Jeep. No way Jose.

How to convince her otherwise-

Find a similar vehicle made by Ford, or GM, then call your insurance agent and get a quote versus the Jeep, end of story.

[Cap'n Cat]

[89Hen]

Weird. So white Dems are classified as...?

[Cap'n Cat]

Weird. So white Dems are classified as...?

Enlightened, progressive gods.

[ASUG8]

On a totally unrelated note, it looks like my new Jeep may be getting some major engine work soon. Thanks Chrysler.

Serves you right for buying American. My driveway is full of Hondas & a Toyota....

I've gone Nissan/Toyota after a couple of surprisingly good GM products.

[93henfan]

89Henette swears she wants a Jeep. No way Jose.

How to convince her otherwise-

Find a similar vehicle made by Ford, or GM, then call your insurance agent and get a quote versus the Jeep, end of story.

I pay $301.03 every 6 months, comprehensive coverage on the 2012 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. I'm not complaining.

The other thing is, Ford and GM don't make a comparable vehicle to the Wrangler.

[Wedgebuster]

How to convince her otherwise-

Find a similar vehicle made by Ford, or GM, then call your insurance agent and get a quote versus the Jeep, end of story.

I pay $301.03 every 6 months, comprehensive coverage on the 2012 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. I'm not complaining.

The other thing is, Ford and GM don't make a comparable vehicle to the Wrangler.

Just from memory, had a gal call in with numbers for a Yukon and a Durango, they were the same year, about the same price, ins on the Dodge was 40% higher due to price of parts and cost of repairs. Jeeps have notoriously high cost of parts/repairs.

Just a pointer for whenever you can't decide on two, this is one more thing to check out before making your choice.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

On a totally unrelated note, it looks like my new Jeep may be getting some major engine work soon. Thanks Chrysler.

You need to come back to the fold and burn sauerkraut like I do.

[ASUG8]

I pay $301.03 every 6 months, comprehensive coverage on the 2012 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. I'm not complaining.

The other thing is, Ford and GM don't make a comparable vehicle to the Wrangler.

Just from memory, had a gal call in with numbers for a Yukon and a Durango, they were the same year, about the same price, ins on the Dodge was 40% higher due to price of parts and cost of repairs. Jeeps have notoriously high cost of parts/repairs.

Just a pointer for whenever you can't decide on two, this is one more thing to check out before making your choice.

I've always been told that Jeeps are easy to work on...what I heard was "Jeeps have to be worked on a lot."

[89Hen]

Weird. So white Dems are classified as...?

Enlightened, progressive gods.

Self-aggrandizing, lazy, sycophants is more accurate.

[mainejeff]

Obama is gonna kick some Republican ass this fall........I can't wait!

[89Hen]

Went to the DC car show a couple weekends ago and there are a lot of damn good looking cars out there right now. Ford, Kia, VW... Most surprising sedan IMO was the VW Passat. Big, seemed solid, lots of nice features, low price.



Also liked this one from Kia...

[93henfan]

On a totally unrelated note, it looks like my new Jeep may be getting some major engine work soon. Thanks Chrysler.

You need to come back to the fold and burn sauerkraut like I do.

I was on the Club looking just this morning. Dude had an '03 JSW and the price was right, but I think someone else already scooped it up.

This Jeep issue looks to be a bad production run of cylinder heads that triggers a misfire in the #2 cylinder. The fix is a new head. The issue has really started snowballing in the past few weeks, resulting in a national backorder. I'm trying to get my dealer to take mine in, so I can start the 30 day clock ticking. Under DE law, if they have it 30 days, it's an automatic lemon, and they just bought it back for full price.

Then it's back to sauerkraut! That is, if'n VW (actually Bosch, the supplier) has fixed their HPFP issue on the clean TDIs. Do you know if they have yet?

[93henfan]

Went to the DC car show a couple weekends ago and there are a lot of damn good looking cars out there right now. Ford, Kia, VW... Most surprising sedan IMO was the VW Passat. Big, seemed solid, lots of nice features, low price.

Made in Chattanooga as well.

[ASUG8]

check out that Kia Optima, 89....very nice looking car. Kia and Hyundai have come a long way in a short time.

[89Hen]

check out that Kia Optima, 89....very nice looking car. Kia and Hyundai have come a long way in a short time.

Agreed. Makes me wonder if they just fired all their desingers.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

You need to come back to the fold and burn sauerkraut like I do.

I was on the Club looking just this morning. Dude had an '03 JSW and the price was right, but I think someone else already scooped it up.

This Jeep issue looks to be a bad production run of cylinder heads that triggers a misfire in the #2 cylinder. The fix is a new head. The issue has really started snowballing in the past few weeks, resulting in a national backorder. I'm trying to get my dealer to take mine in, so I can start the 30 day clock ticking. Under DE law, if they have it 30 days, it's an automatic lemon, and they just bought it back for full price.

Then it's back to sauerkraut! That is, if'n VW (actually Bosch, the supplier) has fixed their HPFP issue on the clean TDIs. Do you know if they have yet?

I can't really say, like all things on the VW forums, it can be debated, much like politics here. I am not in the market for a newer one myself so I haven't done any research on it. I had heard of it but it doesn't sound to me like it is as common as the fly wheel in my 06 DSG tdi or the cam for that matter. One difference is the cost and ease of those in comparision, that HPFP sounds like a bitch to do and really expensive. I am keeping my 03 tdi until it dies, really thinking of doing thise mod too it.
http://www.kermatdi.com/servlet/-strse- ... age/Detail

[GannonFan]

Obama is gonna kick some Republican ass this fall........I can't wait!

I think that's a given (although in this day and age, landslides aren't what they used to be - the GOP will still win at least half the states - it won't be a Reagan/Mondale kind of landslide).

The real question is what happens in Congress - can the GOP hold the House (likely) and can the Dems hold the Senate (less likely). Who wins the White House is going to be the least climatic of the races.

[mainejeff]

Also liked this one from Kia...

What is that one.....Sportage, Sorrento, or ???? 2013?

[Skjellyfetti]

The real question is what happens in Congress - can the GOP hold the House (likely) and can the Dems hold the Senate (less likely). Who wins the White House is going to be the least climatic of the races.

It's probably not going to matter much who wins the Senate unless they have 60+ seats.

[SeattleGriz]

check out that Kia Optima, 89....very nice looking car. Kia and Hyundai have come a long way in a short time.

Agreed. Makes me wonder if they just fired all their desingers.

Some gal who owned a Hyundai was telling me they hired a crap load of Toyota engineers about 3-5 years ago.

[Wedgebuster]

Obama is gonna kick some Republican ass this fall........I can't wait!

I think that's a given (although in this day and age, landslides aren't what they used to be - the GOP will still win at least half the states - it won't be a Reagan/Mondale kind of landslide).

The real question is what happens in Congress - can the GOP hold the House (likely) and can the Dems hold the Senate (less likely). Who wins the White House is going to be the least climatic of the races.

It'll be in the bag by happy hour, mountain time.

[89Hen]

Also liked this one from Kia...

What is that one.....Sportage, Sorrento, or ???? 2013?

Sorrento, the bigger one of the two. I think they were all 2012's at the show.

[Bronco]

yes...all hail Obama

GM Pays Less Tax Than Buffet’s Secretary; UAW Gets Bonuses
National Legal & Policy Center ^ | February 16, 2012 | Mark Modica

General Motors reported year end earnings figures today. The company made about $9 billion dollars in 2011. How much of its "fair share" is GM paying in taxes? Zero. In fact, from GM's financial report, they actually received a "benefit" of $110 million for the year.

The UAW benefited as well, as they are set to receive $7,000 per worker in profit sharing bonuses.
The sweet tax deal GM receives was set up by the Obama Administration as the company was granted a multi-billion dollar tax credit for loss carry-overs when they exited their bankruptcy proceeding.

Normally, the company would not have received the tax credit but the bankruptcy process was anything but normal. Creditors were put in the back of the line to protect UAW interests and tax code was changed so that GM could profit for years without paying its fair share in taxes. President Obama now campaigns on the perceived success at GM and any help he can give to the company will result in additional votes come November. As taxpayers lose out, GM profits and shares the wealth with the politically favored UAW.

Despite all the claims of sacrifices at the UAW, members continue to benefit as evidenced by the $7,000 profit sharing checks they will receive as a result of the wealth redistribution scheme orchestrated by the Obama Administration. Executives at GM seem to be doing pretty well also as they receive millions of dollars in stock options. For their part, the UAW has agreed to strongly support the President come election time. And the hypocrisy of GM's tax deal is obvious as Obama makes claims that corporations need to pay their fair share. Crony corporations like GM and General Electric (which also is known to avoid taxes) are conveniently left out of the criticisms.

Also on the favored list are wealthy purchasers of Chevy Volts who receive federal tax credits of $7500 to buy the cars. President Obama wants the rich buyers to have even more wealth redistributed to them in the form of higher credits, which he reportedly wants to raise to $10,000.

The GM earnings report seems to be getting favorable reviews as the share price rose on the news. Considering the $50 billion that taxpayers forked over to bailout GM along with the sweet tax deal, it is understandable that the company seems to be on the road to recovery. There was some evidence of roadblocks, however, as European woes surfaced and pension obligations rose to over $25 billion. Government Motors has recently announced that non-union salaried employees will have their pensions frozen. The company also is looking in to cutting white collar workers. It seems that the goal of job creation and preservation at GM only applies to union workers.

I can not fault the individual UAW workers at GM for benefiting from the political actions of the Obama Administration and GM. I'm sure many of them are hard working individuals. The problem is, most of the rest of us do not have the benefit of belonging to politically favored unions. Non-union taxpayers are picking up the tab for those favored classes that help with President Obama's election campaign. And that's just not "fair."

Mark Modica is an NLPC Associate Fellow.
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