Rick Perry's Seven Amendments to the US Constitution

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Well, I think that once it comes down to just him and Romney, the middle voters (who could give a rat's ass about the religous bullshit) will lean towards Romney.

Agreed. Right now he also has the best poll numbers across the board vs. President Obama, almost tied neck-in-neck with the incumbent. I think Paul and Perry are within 10 points in most polls, and then you've got all the crazy Republican candidates rearing behind by very wide margins.

[BlueHen86]

Well, I think that once it comes down to just him and Romney, the middle voters (who could give a rat's ass about the religous bullshit) will lean towards Romney.

Agreed. Right now he also has the best poll numbers across the board vs. President Obama, almost tied neck-in-neck with the incumbent. I think Paul and Perry are within 10 points in most polls, and then you've got all the crazy Republican candidates rearing behind by very wide margins.

I'd vote for either Paul or Romney over Obama.

If it's Perry or Bachmann I think Obama is the lesser of two evils.

[AZGrizFan]

Agreed. Right now he also has the best poll numbers across the board vs. President Obama, almost tied neck-in-neck with the incumbent. I think Paul and Perry are within 10 points in most polls, and then you've got all the crazy Republican candidates rearing behind by very wide margins.

I'd vote for either Paul or Romney over Obama.

If it's Perry or Bachmann I think Obama is the lesser of two evils.

I'd probably hold my nose and vote for Perry (or more likely go 3rd party), but there's no WAY I cast a vote for Bachmann.

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Bachmann is a non-issue in my eyes...just someone there to provide us entertainment until play time is over. Same with Cain and the boreal witch. I can't imagine any of those three seriously winning the Republican nomination.

[AZGrizFan]

Bachmann is a non-issue in my eyes...just someone there to provide us entertainment until play time is over. Same with Cain and the boreal witch. I can't imagine any of those three seriously winning the Republican nomination.

Not sure about Cain, yet...although he doesn't have nearly the infrastructure or money to compete.

[Ivytalk]

Well, I think that once it comes down to just him and Romney, the middle voters (who could give a rat's ass about the religous bullshit) will lean towards Romney.

Agreed. Right now he also has the best poll numbers across the board vs. President Obama, almost tied neck-in-neck with the incumbent. I think Paul and Perry are within 10 points in most polls, and then you've got all the crazy Republican candidates rearing behind by very wide margins.

I've seen recent polls putting Romney a few points ahead of BHO. Perry may prove to be the Joe Biden of the GOP: a gaffe a day.

I would vote for Perry over Obama, because I'd ignore the religious stuff and focus on the economics. Not a happy choice for me, but I'd lose no sleep over it.

[dbackjon]

Agreed. Right now he also has the best poll numbers across the board vs. President Obama, almost tied neck-in-neck with the incumbent. I think Paul and Perry are within 10 points in most polls, and then you've got all the crazy Republican candidates rearing behind by very wide margins.

I've seen recent polls putting Romney a few points ahead of BHO. Perry may prove to be the Joe Biden of the GOP: a gaffe a day.

I would vote for Perry over Obama, because I'd ignore the religious stuff and focus on the economics. Not a happy choice for me, but I'd lose no sleep over it.

What economics?

[AZGrizFan]

I've seen recent polls putting Romney a few points ahead of BHO. Perry may prove to be the Joe Biden of the GOP: a gaffe a day.

I would vote for Perry over Obama, because I'd ignore the religious stuff and focus on the economics. Not a happy choice for me, but I'd lose no sleep over it.

What economics?

The "he's not Obama's economics" economics.

[Ivytalk]

I've seen recent polls putting Romney a few points ahead of BHO. Perry may prove to be the Joe Biden of the GOP: a gaffe a day.

I would vote for Perry over Obama, because I'd ignore the religious stuff and focus on the economics. Not a happy choice for me, but I'd lose no sleep over it.

What economics?

He plays the low-regulation, job-creation, low-tax card pretty well. That economics.

[kalm]

What economics?

He plays the low-regulation, job-creation, low-tax card pretty well. That economics.

JFC, you've truly learned nothing over the last 30 years have you?

[AZGrizFan]

He plays the low-regulation, job-creation, low-tax card pretty well. That economics.

JFC, you've truly learned nothing over the last 30 years have you?

And you've clearly learned nothing over the past 30 months.

[kalm]

JFC, you've truly learned nothing over the last 30 years have you?

And you've clearly learned nothing over the past 30 months.

Quick, name me one country that pulled itself out of economic problems through austerity. Name another that tax -cutted itself to a balanced budget.

[AZGrizFan]

And you've clearly learned nothing over the past 30 months.

Quick, name me one country that pulled itself out of economic problems through austerity. Name another that tax -cutted itself to a balanced budget.

Name one that's borrowed itself to prosperity.

[kalm]

Quick, name me one country that pulled itself out of economic problems through austerity. Name another that tax -cutted itself to a balanced budget.

Name one that's borrowed itself to prosperity.

1/2 of Europe, the Louisiana Purchase, the Interstate Highway Program...

[AZGrizFan]

Name one that's borrowed itself to prosperity.

1/2 of Europe, the Louisiana Purchase, the Interstate Highway Program...

That half of Europe is now swimming in debt and rioting in the streets. the LP and the IHP are not countries.

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You can actually borrow into prosperity if your leaders care and invest into something that'll help the country in the long haul (education, energy independence, space, water management, infrastructure, medicine, etc.). But no, we just give it to those who contribute little to society, and put into the military industrial complex.

Swords to ploughshares leads to prosperity. Always has. Always will.

[kalm]

1/2 of Europe, the Louisiana Purchase, the Interstate Highway Program...

That half of Europe is now swimming in debt and rioting in the streets. the LP and the IHP are not countries.

I said half of Europe, and nobody is currently doing well. But at least Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands have been and still are prosperous countries. They're the ones who rejected Thatcher/Reaganomics and didn't listen to the multinational banks and notions of deregulation etc. The pig countries are the most in trouble and did.

LP and IHP are good examples of government borrowing that led to prosperity and you know it.

[Baldy]

That half of Europe is now swimming in debt and rioting in the streets. the LP and the IHP are not countries.

I said half of Europe, and nobody is currently doing well. But at least Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands have been and still are prosperous countries. They're the ones who rejected Thatcher/Reaganomics and didn't listen to the multinational banks and notions of deregulation etc. The pig countries are the most in trouble and did.

LP and IHP are good examples of government borrowing that led to prosperity and you know it.

Ummmm, sorry but you're wrong. Denmark, Finland, Norway, etc, were in horrible economic shape in the 1990's until they finally decided to implement more aggressive free market principles into their economies.

The Louisiana Purchase was financed by special purpose bonds after we put 20% cash down, and the Interstate system was funded by a 3% fuel tax. In other words, we didn't go into massive debt, nor did we mortgage our children's futures for either.

[kalm]

I said half of Europe, and nobody is currently doing well. But at least Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands have been and still are prosperous countries. They're the ones who rejected Thatcher/Reaganomics and didn't listen to the multinational banks and notions of deregulation etc. The pig countries are the most in trouble and did.

LP and IHP are good examples of government borrowing that led to prosperity and you know it.

Ummmm, sorry but you're wrong. Denmark, Finland, Norway, etc, were in horrible economic shape in the 1990's until they finally decided to implement more aggressive free market principles into their economies.

The Louisiana Purchase was financed by special purpose bonds after we put 20% cash down, and the Interstate system was funded by a 3% fuel tax. In other words, we didn't go into massive debt, nor did we mortgage our children's futures for either.

If memory serves, Sweden got out of their pickle by nationalizing the banks. Bank management was fired and the shareholders were the losers.

So the LP was only 80% financed.

That 3% tax was neccessary because we also had to pay for the Marshall Plan, the war debt and the GI Bill. In other words, we borrowed ourselves into prosperity.

Now,I could be wrong about all of this so run along, do some more research, and prove it.

[citdog]

Swords to ploughshares leads to prosperity. Always has. Always will.

yep 1865-1877 were REAL prosperous for us.

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Swords to ploughshares leads to prosperity. Always has. Always will.

yep 1865-1877 were REAL prosperous for us.

On April 12, the Confederates decided to "live by the sword." You know how that saying ends...

[GannonFan]

I'm fairly independent in most matters, and was an Obama voter in the last election. There's no way, even given Obama's dreadful performance in his first 3 years, that I would vote for Perry over Obama at this point. Romney I could possibly vote for, and hopefully the Mormom backlash isn't as much as I think it's going to be, but Perry just comes across as a goof.

[GannonFan]

That 3% tax was neccessary because we also had to pay for the Marshall Plan, the war debt and the GI Bill. In other words, we borrowed ourselves into prosperity.

Now,I could be wrong about all of this so run along, do some more research, and prove it.

Of course, the fact that the rest of the industrialized world was devastated by the prior World War and essentially left us at the top of the heap in terms of economic power had nothing to do with our increasing prosperity during that time - it was all due to a 3% tax increase. Never mind the other details of the period.

[kalm]

That 3% tax was neccessary because we also had to pay for the Marshall Plan, the war debt and the GI Bill. In other words, we borrowed ourselves into prosperity.

Now,I could be wrong about all of this so run along, do some more research, and prove it.

Of course, the fact that the rest of the industrialized world was devastated by the prior World War and essentially left us at the top of the heap in terms of economic power had nothing to do with our increasing prosperity during that time - it was all due to a 3% tax increase. Never mind the other details of the period.

I've acknowledged that before. Still, post war debt was at 120% of GDP and we were able to do all of the above mentioned, pay down the debt, and re-tool our own factories. We had a decent head start, but we were also willing to borrow and pay taxes.

[GannonFan]

Of course, the fact that the rest of the industrialized world was devastated by the prior World War and essentially left us at the top of the heap in terms of economic power had nothing to do with our increasing prosperity during that time - it was all due to a 3% tax increase. Never mind the other details of the period.

I've acknowledged that before. Still, post war debt was at 120% of GDP and we were able to do all of the above mentioned, pay down the debt, and re-tool our own factories. We had a decent head start, but we were also willing to borrow and pay taxes.

It's not like the destruction of most of the industrialize world at the time was just a minor detail in America's position post-WWII. Going down a checklist of debt, taxes, borrowing, worldwide destruction doesn't really give it its due. And it's not like we've had a problem borrowing anytime over the past decade or two, as borrowing, and the incredible increase in the rate of borrowing, has put us into this spot. Unfortunately, I guess, this time the world isn't devastated and we're the only one left standing. Bummer.

Getting back to Perry for a moment, is it just me, or does he come across as the Republican's version of John Edwards? Smarmy, quick talking, relatively good looking, talks to the base when he can't possibly believe what he's saying. Just saying.