Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[CID1990]

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/02/ ... ed-ivanka/


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[kalm]

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/02/ ... ed-ivanka/


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Damn...

[Ivytalk]

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Mr. and Mrs. Kushner were in way over their pretty little heads from the jump. Jared Kushner is a pious little grifter who is turning into his crooked old man. Ivanka is a callow debutante who has nothing of substance to contribute. Bundle them both back off to NYC.

[SDHornet]

Jeezus Kringle Hoe man..
Trump gave top level security clearance to everybody but Cindy Lauper



Jared Kushner's sisters maid's English tutor sat in on mid level briefings
Trump has been running the White House like he runs the Craps table in Atlantic City

Appeal Obama Care
We've got a great plan already done - you'll love it trust me it's great

I liked it better when that was all we had to deal with (Mexico will pay for it)

Were you this outraged when Ben Rhodes was getting his security clearance? Asking for a friend.

[SDHornet]

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/02/ ... ed-ivanka/


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Mr. and Mrs. Kushner were in way over their pretty little heads from the jump. Jared Kushner is a pious little grifter who is turning into his crooked old man. Ivanka is a callow debutante who has nothing of substance to contribute. Bundle them both back off to NYC.

This pretty much sums it up.

[Chizzang]

Jeezus Kringle Hoe man..
Trump gave top level security clearance to everybody but Cindy Lauper



Jared Kushner's sisters maid's English tutor sat in on mid level briefings
Trump has been running the White House like he runs the Craps table in Atlantic City

Appeal Obama Care
We've got a great plan already done - you'll love it trust me it's great

I liked it better when that was all we had to deal with (Mexico will pay for it)

Were you this outraged when Ben Rhodes was getting his security clearance? Asking for a friend.

nope...
I'd be pretty close to the last person to know
I'll let you know when the clown show outrages me though

[Skjellyfetti]

Fucking idiots.

Former Trump campaign adviser Sam Nunberg is refusing to comply with a subpoena order issued by special counsel Robert Mueller as part of the grand jury's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Nunberg told the Washington Post on Monday that he was asked to appear before the grand jury on Friday but does not intend to appear or to provide documents.

"Let him arrest me," Nunberg told the Post. "Mr. Mueller should understand I am not going in on Friday."

The subpoena issued to Nunberg requested documents related to Mr. Trump and nine others including emails, telephone logs and other records. News of his subpoena comes after CBS News confirmed that Mueller is seeking documents regarding the president and several of his closest advisers and campaign associates. Investigators are looking for emails, text messages, work documents, telephone logs and other relevant documents dating back to November 1, 2015.

Nunberg went so far as to say he wanted to "rip up" his subpoena on television in an act of defiance.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnew ... cooperate/

[kalm]

Trigger warning!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/t ... nt-w517486

[GannonFan]

Trigger warning!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/t ... nt-w517486

Because the guy basically said everything I believe, I loved the article!

Great phrasing - "This Russians-are-in-our-precious-bodily-fluids insanity...".

Great lesson in living history - we get to see a real live Red Scare happen right around us. Just like the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy episodes, there was actual Russian/Communist subterfuge going on. However, it was then, like now, nowhere near that extensive and our paranoid reaction to it was/is grossly out of proportion to the actual problem, enough to the point that our reaction is the real danger now. A true Red Scare.

[Skjellyfetti]

I mostly agree with the beginning and end of the article - what, I believe is the main thrust of the article. Yeah, people that shared memes posted by Kremlin trolls or attended rallies organized by Kremlin trolls aren't really at fault. They were pissed off at our system and Russia took advantage. CNN definitely got an egg on their face by going to Florida to ambush that woman that attended a rally organized by trolls. Nothing wrong at all with voting against status quo politicians.

[Skjellyfetti]

Mueller looking at the Seychelles meeting.

Adviser to Emirates With Ties to Trump Aides Is Cooperating With Special Counsel

An adviser to the United Arab Emirates with ties to current and former aides to President Trump is cooperating with the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and gave testimony last week to a grand jury, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Mr. Mueller appears to be examining the influence of foreign money on Mr. Trump’s political activities and has asked witnesses about the possibility that the adviser, George Nader, funneled money from the Emirates to the president’s political efforts. It is illegal for foreign entities to contribute to campaigns or for Americans to knowingly accept foreign money for political races.

Mr. Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman who advises Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan, the effective ruler of the Emirates, also attended a January 2017 meeting in the Seychelles that Mr. Mueller’s investigators have examined. The meeting, convened by the crown prince, brought together a Russian investor close to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia with Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater and an informal adviser to Mr. Trump’s team during the presidential transition, according to three people familiar with the meeting.

Mr. Nader’s cooperation in the special counsel’s investigation could prompt new legal risks for the Trump administration, and Mr. Nader’s presence at the Seychelles meeting appears to connect him to the primary focus of Mr. Mueller’s investigation: examining Russian interference during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Mr. Nader represented the crown prince in the three-way conversation in the Seychelles, at a hotel overlooking in the Indian Ocean, in the days before Mr. Trump took office. At the meeting, Emirati officials believed Mr. Prince was speaking for the Trump transition team, and a Russian fund manager, Kirill Dmitriev, represented Mr. Putin, according to several people familiar with the meeting. Mr. Nader, who grew close later to several advisers in the Trump White House, had once worked as a consultant to Blackwater, a private security firm. Mr. Nader introduced his former employer to the Russian.

The significance of the meeting in the Seychelles has been a puzzle to American officials ever since intelligence agencies first picked up on it in the final days of the Obama administration, and the purpose of the discussion is in dispute. During congressional testimony in November, Mr. Prince denied representing the Trump transition team during the meeting and dismissed his encounter with Mr. Dmitriev as nothing more than a friendly conversation over a drink.

A lawyer for Mr. Nader did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesman for Mr. Dmitriev has repeatedly declined to comment about the Seychelles meeting, as has Yousef al-Otaiba, the Emirati ambassador in Washington.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/06/us/p ... d=tw-share

[kalm]

Trigger warning!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/t ... nt-w517486

Because the guy basically said everything I believe, I loved the article!

Great phrasing - "This Russians-are-in-our-precious-bodily-fluids insanity...".

Great lesson in living history - we get to see a real live Red Scare happen right around us. Just like the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy episodes, there was actual Russian/Communist subterfuge going on. However, it was then, like now, nowhere near that extensive and our paranoid reaction to it was/is grossly out of proportion to the actual problem, enough to the point that our reaction is the real danger now. A true Red Scare.

So are you agreeing with the article? It’s kind of hard to tell...

[Skjellyfetti]

Not looking good for Erik Prince.

Mueller gathers evidence that 2016 Seychelles meeting was effort to establish back channel to Kremlin

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in the Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back-channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin — apparently contradicting statements made to lawmakers by one of its participants, according to people familiar with the matter.

In January, 2016, Erik Prince, the founder of the private military company Blackwater, met with a Russian official close to President Vladi­mir Putin, and later described the meeting to congressional investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of U.S.-Russia relations.

A witness cooperating with Mueller has told investigators the meeting was set up in advance so that a representative of the Trump transition could meet with an emissary from Moscow to discuss future relations between the two countries, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

George Nader, a Lebanese-American business who helped organize and attended the Seychelles meeting, has testified on the matter before a grand jury gathering evidence about discussions between the Trump transition team and emissaries of the Kremlin, as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.

Nader began cooperating with Mueller after he flew into Dulles Airport in mid-January and was stopped, served with a subpoena and questioned by the FBI, these people said. He has met numerous times with investigators.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 1544ce823c

[Ivytalk]

This thread almost makes me miss the 2015 Elimination Game thread.

[CID1990]

This thread almost makes me miss the 2015 Elimination Game thread.

Well that's kind of what it is...

We're slowly eliminating all those smoking guns that were going to have Trump gone by this year

Eventually it will be a contest between a parking ticket Manafort got in Kyiv in 1995 and Trump's housekeeper being busted for crack

[Ivytalk]

This thread almost makes me miss the 2015 Elimination Game thread.

Well that's kind of what it is...

We're slowly eliminating all those smoking guns that were going to have Trump gone by this year

Eventually it will be a contest between a parking ticket Manafort got in Kyiv in 1995 and Trump's housekeeper being busted for crack

And it will be SmellyBelly in a giant echo chamber, digging up the dirt on Manafort.

[Ibanez]

Well that's kind of what it is...

We're slowly eliminating all those smoking guns that were going to have Trump gone by this year

Eventually it will be a contest between a parking ticket Manafort got in Kyiv in 1995 and Trump's housekeeper being busted for crack

And it will be SmellyBelly in a giant echo chamber, smearing poo on himself.

FIFY

[Skjellyfetti]

This thread almost makes me miss the 2015 Elimination Game thread.

Well that's kind of what it is...

We're slowly eliminating all those smoking guns that were going to have Trump gone by this year

Well, you thought the Seychelles story would be a "shiny object for a couple of days"...

Yet... here we are, almost a year later.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 99e0c001c1

This will be a bright shiny object for a couple days for WaPo but it's probably a nothingburger

[CID1990]

Well that's kind of what it is...

We're slowly eliminating all those smoking guns that were going to have Trump gone by this year

Well, you thought the Seychelles story would be a "shiny object for a couple of days"...

Yet... here we are, almost a year later.

This will be a bright shiny object for a couple days for WaPo but it's probably a nothingburger

Where’s the collusion Jelly?

This meeting happened just before the inauguration

Let’s see.... a campaign team that had already colluded with Russia to throw the election

Then later needs to establish a back channel to Moscow?

Yeah this is quite the break for Team Mueller

Still a nothingburger

[Skjellyfetti]

Yeah, coordinating through emails and meetings at Trump Tower proved to be a little unwise.

[GannonFan]

Because the guy basically said everything I believe, I loved the article!

Great phrasing - "This Russians-are-in-our-precious-bodily-fluids insanity...".

Great lesson in living history - we get to see a real live Red Scare happen right around us. Just like the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy episodes, there was actual Russian/Communist subterfuge going on. However, it was then, like now, nowhere near that extensive and our paranoid reaction to it was/is grossly out of proportion to the actual problem, enough to the point that our reaction is the real danger now. A true Red Scare.

So are you agreeing with the article? It’s kind of hard to tell...

What's so hard to tell? Of course I agree with it, it's a Red Scare all over again. Some actual malfeasance is blown up to be all encompassing as a threat to the very soul of the nation. Red Scare, plain and simple.

[kalm]

Cohen is the most generous lawyer in history.

Still, if the UC Irvine law professor is right it will be tough to prosecute the Stormy Daniels affair...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... ction-law/

[Skjellyfetti]

Yeah, no idea if anyone will end up getting prosecuted for campaign finance laws over this. And, it's probably unlikely.

But, Stormy and her legal team have put Trump and Co. in an awkward place.

They can deny that "DD" was Trump - in which case, she's free to release her evidence.

Or, they can admit that "DD" was Trump - in which case, they're rolling the dice on campaign finance laws... and, whether Melania wants out of the marriage with a voided prenup.

[CID1990]

ERMAGHERD!!!!

Trump maybe banged a hooker

(Bring the “YES BUT”..... bring it)

[Skjellyfetti]

I don't think the fact that Trump banged a porn star is what's notable about this story.